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Gridiron Giant [15368]
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2 question about Tariffs
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Apr 4, 2025, 5:08 PM
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What if the biggest result of tariffs is that Americans simply pay the increased prices of products or goods (or surcharges) that get added?
What if all other countries decide to trade with each other to the greatest extent and avoid all trade possible with US?
If these either or both of these 2 things happen, what is our next move?
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TigerNet HOFer [133038]
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What if Corp Taxes are reduced and product cost reductions
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Apr 4, 2025, 5:16 PM
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Passed on to consumers?
Cause Govmt gets the Tariff revenue
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All-Pro [778]
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Re: What if Corp Taxes are reduced and product cost reductions
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Apr 4, 2025, 5:46 PM
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Corps don’t have a history of passing savings to consumers.
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Gridiron Giant [15758]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
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Apr 4, 2025, 5:16 PM
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The biggest truly so far is that Vietnam has agreed to drop all tariffs (68%) and will likely be every nation. Every nations economy is tied to ours. Not the other way around.
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TigerNet Elite [74505]
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that is not what they are screaming on MSDNC.***
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Game Changer [1910]
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Is that garbage that FAUX News is telling the cultists to regurgitate?
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Apr 4, 2025, 5:28 PM
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I know MAGAts aren’t capable of independent thought until they give ya’ll talking points.
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TigerNet Elite [74505]
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Re: Is that garbage that FAUX News is telling the cultists to regurgitate?
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Apr 4, 2025, 5:36 PM
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*beep* *beep* go firebomb some Teslas *over*
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Paw Master [17728]
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Re: Is that garbage that FAUX News is telling the cultists to regurgitate?
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Apr 4, 2025, 10:00 PM
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Obama and Biden lined their pockets while in the WH. Tariffs will force other countries to negotiate with us to make trading more even. It will also bring more manufacturing and Jobs back to the United States. People should do the research to see how much recycling will benefit our country. Styrofoam is used when repaving our roads so they will last longer. It’s cost approximately 50% less to recycle aluminum for cans and other products. Plus we want be wasting land for so much garbage that can be recycled.
I have found that people want change as long as they are not affected. Unfortunately change to MAGA can or most likely will be difficult for most every American Citizen. But in the long term we will be better off than we were before if we give President Trump and Elon Musk our support and a chance to make the necessary changes. They are human and will make some mistakes be IMO they will get them corrected.
I hope all we support and if you are a Christian Pray for President Trump and his administration. He he is successful it will spread to the American people. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
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Orange Blooded [2400]
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Re: Is that garbage that FAUX News is telling the cultists to regurgitate?
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Apr 4, 2025, 10:48 PM
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Bless your heart. 😂
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Playmaker [362]
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National Champion [7662]
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Re: Is that garbage that FAUX News is telling the cultists to regurgitate
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Apr 4, 2025, 8:39 PM
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I'm not on either side, but the news is full of crap now. There is no such thing as a "reputable" news source. I always laugh when a trumpster quotes fox news, or when a leftist quotes cnn. It's all a bunch of BS. and until you all realize that, then we will continue down this same dark path.
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Ring of Honor [23501]
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Ring of Honor [23501]
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@colbert - why don't you try and retort anything I said?
Apr 6, 2025, 9:32 AM
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All you can do is cowardly TD ideas you don't like but also can't debate.
Stick to the recruiting. 
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Orange Blooded [2349]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
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Apr 5, 2025, 12:05 AM
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What exactly do we expect the people of Vietnam to import from the US? The average income over there is around $8000/ year. The cost of shipping most goods from the US to Vietnam alone makes the product unaffordable for most Vietnamese. The tariffs they charge have very little effect on what they would import from the US.
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Ring of Honor [23501]
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They did not drop 68% tariffs.
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Because that number is a lie.
Do some research before you post lies that are so quickly fact-checked.
Magas are so thirsty for some good news about these horrible economic policies that they are upvoting your lies blindly.
It's a real testament to how uninformed and easily manipulated this cult can be.
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National Champion [7996]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
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Apr 4, 2025, 5:28 PM
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Won’t happen. We have the money & we buy the goods. They all need our market to survive, so they’ll negotiate in the end. That’s the game.
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Game Changer [1910]
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This is what happens when you defund public education got decades, folks.
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Nm
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TigerNet HOFer [133038]
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You serious, Clark?
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Apr 4, 2025, 5:50 PM
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Sounds like your education never happened
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Re: You serious, Clark?
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Apr 4, 2025, 6:04 PM
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This is the actual result of having a Federal Department of Education. It's a feature, not a bug. Everything the Left touches gets worse, not better. Every single thing.
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Re: You serious, Clark?
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Apr 4, 2025, 6:31 PM
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What do you mean by “the left”? Speak plainly, you sound like a puppet.
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TigerNet HOFer [133038]
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Liberals, duh***
Apr 4, 2025, 7:20 PM
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Re: Liberals, duh***
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Apr 4, 2025, 8:13 PM
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Freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of press and freedom of assembly are all socially liberal concepts. The entire American political ecosystem is based on two slightly different flavors of liberalism.
duh***
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Orange Blooded [2583]
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Re: Classic liberalism yes. Todays left has nothing in common
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Apr 5, 2025, 9:18 AM
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with those principles. We call them Leftists, and they are more Marxist than anything else.
Freedom of Religion? Yes, if it's not Christianity. But then they mostly want freedom FROM religion
Freedom of Speech? Not a chance, what you say is hate speech and should be censored.
Freedom of Press. No, Obama made it legal for the press to use propaganda, and it is on steroids
Freedom of Assembly? Are you kidding me? That doesn't mean firebombing cities, car dealerships etc.
The left has gone absolutely insane; they call the other side 'the enemy' and have pushed the lemmings to believe such. Look at how many have abandoned their own families because of how they voted.
Ultimately, we will all come together after everyone realizes what these people have done. I have seen the enemy and he is not my neighbor.
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All-Pro [778]
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Re: Classic liberalism yes. Todays left has nothing in common
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Apr 5, 2025, 10:09 AM
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Who exactly do you think the enemy is?
I think you misunderstand some of those liberties. The liberties are not universal, they are guarantees that the government itself will not infringe upon the liberties, but does not guarantee them in civil discourse.
Should the government create laws dictating speech we can use and books we can read? absolutely not. And you are correct, many democrats would like to federally prohibit certain types of speech, but I’ve seen plenty of cases of Republicans trying to federally ban books.
Should the government dictate what the media should publish? Absolutely not. But that doesn’t mean that if a media outlet wants to publish an ideological view that it is illegal. What is protected is the government meddling in the press and dictating what is considered truth. The media doesn’t lean left because of a government conspiracy, the media leans left because of a natural inclination and career path that leads democrats into the industry. It’s kind of like how the majority of teachers are women isn’t some vast conspiracy. Frankly the only time I’ve truly been concerned about freedom of press is when Trump started dictating AP access because they refused to call Gulf of Mexico, the Gulf of America.
Freedom of assembly doesn’t mean storming the capital building after an election doesn’t go the way you want either. All you are doing is cherry picking, but both sides are more or less engaging in all of the behavior you are describing above.
Trump: “we have an enemy from within”. You sure it’s the “left” calling the other side the enemy? Probably so, but why are you ignoring Trump when he uses that same fear mongering rhetoric?
All honest questions, I’m center-right but I’ve just seen so much division and partisan politics since Trump hijacked the party that I’ve been slowly drifting left for the last decade. I still hold conservative values, but my Christian upbringing is much more aligned with current Democrat platform right now.
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Commissioner [1274]
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Re: Classic liberalism yes. Todays left has nothing in common
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Apr 5, 2025, 10:21 AM
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You had all valid points until you said your Christian upbringing has you aligned with current democrats.
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Re: Classic liberalism yes. Todays left has nothing in common
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Apr 5, 2025, 9:03 PM
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I don’t like it either, but it’s hard to be a Christian and vote for someone as corrupt and abhorrent as Trump. He’s a gluttonous, lustful, selfish, prideful, false idol and has never shown an ounce of humility, remorse or sympathy. I can’t accept that from my leader and continue to strive to make myself better and world around me better.
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Orange Blooded [2583]
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Re: I see you my brother, and I am glad to have the debate.
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Apr 5, 2025, 10:31 AM
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The problem, as I see it, is that these liberties have been bastardized to the max.
One thing, Pelosi and 'others' manufactured J6 to make it look like an insurrection. Make no mistake, the insurrection happened on Nov. 3rd 2020. They never expected Trump to walk away, which he did, which allowed everyone to see the democrat party for what it is. I'm not defending the Republican party because a lot of them fell into the kickback and insider trading made popular by Pelosi et. al.
What Doge is uncovering is massive corruption and they don't want to give up their golden goose. They have only been interested in enriching themselves at our expense.
Hillary famously said, "If that ####### wins, we'll all hang from nooses. And if I go down, I'm taking half of Washington with me." She said that because she knows how corrupt Washington is.
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Re: Classic liberalism yes. Todays left has nothing in common
Apr 6, 2025, 8:07 AM
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Good catch, apologies, I meant state book bans, and they’ve been on the rise. Ultimately, I believe the federal governments role is to govern the states, not the people. Let the states govern the people and the feds play watchdog to ensure state governments don’t infringe upon our federally granted rights.
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Re: This is what happens when you defund public education got decades, folks.
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Apr 4, 2025, 9:37 PM
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This is what happens when you run up a bill of 36trill in 3 Liberal terms over 16 years.
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Standout [244]
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Re: This is what happens when you defund public education got decades, folks.
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Apr 4, 2025, 10:38 PM
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For sure, let’s just not count the $8 trillion Trump added in his first term. Let’s only listen to Fox Entertainment and NewsMax and not actually look at facts, but just parrot the fear rhetoric. Keeps us out of that horrible “critical thinking” space that’s only for the higher educated libs.
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Orange Blooded [2583]
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Re: They released Covid to ambush Trump.
Apr 5, 2025, 9:22 AM
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As you claim, Covid is the reason for the '8 Trillion'. It's illuminating when you realize what they would do to retain power.
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Orange Blooded [2135]
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Re: This is what happens when you defund public education got decades, folks.
Apr 5, 2025, 9:06 AM
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Hilarious coming from a WS Panic junkie that's probably taken enough acid to fry every neuron in your brain. Go veg out to your panic and leave trade policy to the adults loser
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Game Day Hero [4585]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
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Will not happen. Walmart alone is the 7 th biggest importer of goods world wide. Think about that for a second only 5 other countries import more goods than Walmart with one being the United States. These other countries cannot survive trading only amongst themselves . We hold all the cards and they are being played one by one starting with Vietnam which have already agreed to drop the 68% tariffs on US goods
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Bullying a third world country that utilizes slave labor
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To make your clothes because you’re a wanna be dictator is not the win you think it is, buddy.
He wants to be Putin so bad but he’s filed bankruptcy six times, so he’s a failed leader, businessman, and a dictator.
You’re in a cult though and can’t process any of this though.
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Re: Bullying a third world country that utilizes slave labor
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Apr 4, 2025, 5:40 PM
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TDS
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Re: Bullying a third world country that utilizes slave labor
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Apr 4, 2025, 6:05 PM
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Being good at business isn’t a prerequisite to being a billionaire. Being compromised, morally bankrupt and having a billionaire for a father are much better indicators.
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Orange Blooded [2505]
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Re: Bullying a third world country that utilizes slave labor
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Apr 4, 2025, 7:28 PM
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May want to check your facts. He built it big time on what he inherited, nitwit.
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All-Pro [778]
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Re: Bullying a third world country that utilizes slave labor
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Apr 4, 2025, 8:36 PM
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Always resort to personal insults when all else fails. I suggest practicing impulse control lest you live out the rest of your life tottering from interaction to interaction like a child who didn’t get their way.
The man has lied and cheated his way through life. Cohen admitted to pumping his numbers for publicity. Trump has sworn under deposition to borrowing millions from his father’s estate in the 2000’s. He has a trail of bad deals, broken businesses and law suits. His father has funneled money to him through murky channels for most of his life. He is the literal definition of being born with a silver spoon in your mouth.
You can just admit that you like him because he’s mean to people you disagree with. It would be more respectable than watching otherwise intelligent people do mental gymnastics to justify their adoration for the magnificent oaf.
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Re: Bullying a third world country that utilizes slave labor
Apr 4, 2025, 10:45 PM
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Stop being fatuous.
Of course he wasn’t a billionaire. With an annual average return of 10%, one million in 1950 is a cool billion today if you parked it in the market.
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Re: Bullying a third world country that utilizes slave labor
Apr 4, 2025, 10:47 PM
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Trump Destroys Stocks syndrome
$5 trillion in value lost in 2 days. EPIC!
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You're absolutely insane if you believe Donald Trump is a failure in business. Out of over 100 business ventures, 6 have filed for bankruptcy. You know nothing about the business world. Those are Not personal bankruptcies and as far as a leader, look how many of us are in his so-called cult. LMAO, also watch the 'leaders' around the world capitulate to his demands. Actually, for those keeping up, they have already capitulated.
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 4, 2025, 6:02 PM
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Walmarts Chinese vendors contacted the government about pressure to assume the cost of tariffs. The Chinese government contacted Walmart execs directly. You should expect higher prices on the short term. It’s a tax plain and simple meant to reduce foreign product demand. So consumer demand may suffer and prices will be higher. Could result in stagflation.
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 8:59 AM
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Walmart bullies all of their suppliers. Why should the overseas suppliers be any different? There are case studies of how Walmart put Rubbermaid out of business. Ever notice how all of the plastic bins are now made by Sterilite? Like them or not, and I happen not to like them, Walmart will be a major player in these negotiations. They created a lot of the current problem after Sam Walton died and his policy of promoting products made in America died with him.
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
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The stock market says not. Do you have a retirement account?
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Their economies would tank if they didn’t do business with us
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
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We need to build in America and buy American
We’ve got the 14 million workers who crossed illegally during Democratic run boarders..
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 9:01 AM
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And we are going to have thousands of government workers who will be looking for jobs as well. Put them to work in the manufacturing sector where they can actually be productive.
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Are you ready to pick crops? Work in a chicken processing plant? "Illegalb" do the jobs Americans won't touch
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They don’t have to wait US out, they only have to wait Trump out. He got elected on the platform “cheaper groceries” (his words, not mine), if he can’t deliver cheaper groceries, independents are going to swing back and Reps most likely lose control of Congress. He’s got about an 18 month shot clock to get this play to work. We will see.
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This is so true. He is gambling on a republican presidential candidate winning or losing in tbe next 2 or 3 elections. If this fails, (I've lost 35k in my 401k in 2 days) Vance will not be elected and democrats will control house and senate in 2028. He thought of making trade more equitable to the US is correct, but he should have been more strategic and worked backdoor deals to isolate China. I'm a republica but once this negatively impacts my personal inner circle, I have zero allegiance to any political party. I'll ve a turncoat.
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Apr 4, 2025, 8:47 PM
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Bingo, and given how he polls by age demo, screwing with social security while gambling with a generations retirement fund is going to sting if he doesn’t deliver a win at the end of all of this.
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 4, 2025, 8:49 PM
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Meanwhile my generation is full ked regardless. We won't have social security to fall back on....
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 9:15 AM
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I have 2 children that are in your generation. They are doing fine and planning for retirement that may or may not include social security. It can be done.
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 10:14 AM
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If you really feel that way, go ahead and decline your SS, so that someone who needs it will have access to it.
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Ultimate Tiger [33022]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 2:38 PM
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That’s a ridiculous take. I paid into SS my whole career and will take whatever I can get out of it.
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All-Pro [778]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 9:04 PM
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Then we should expect the same.
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 9:26 PM
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I agree you should. If you pay in you should receive benefits. The poster I was responding to said everyone in his generation is screwed. I’m just saying y’all are young enough to still do something about it if you really have concerns. Telling me to give up my SS was a ridiculous take. A lot of folks your age have expressed concerns about whether SS will be around when they are ready to retire. My son is one of them. So, knowing there is a possibility, he is planning his financial future in a way that will work out for him in either case. That’s all I said.
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All-Pro [778]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 6, 2025, 8:12 AM
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By suggesting we should plan for not getting it and accept that as a possibility, you’re implying you are okay with your kids not getting their investment back. But when it was suggested you forgo your own investment, it was clear outrage. Where is the clear outrage for your children? All you can muster for them is passive acceptance?
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Orange Beast [6269]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 4, 2025, 5:53 PM
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These countries have put tariffs on us for year and stole
many companies. We don't even make meds here any longer.
Go back and look at Bernie Sanders, Obama and Pelosi back
a few years ago, calling for reciprocal tariffs.
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Game Day Hero [4318]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 4, 2025, 6:17 PM
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The purpose is to drive manufacturing back home.
Remember that Ben. And BMW moved manufacturing to the US because it’s cheaper than European labor cost.
47% of vehicles are imported meaning 53% are made in the US. I don’t know what percentage of the 53% have off shore parts. In time the big auto manufacturers have decisions to make about bringing manufacturing home.
The list of tariffs Canada charges imports from the US covers soooo much.
Stay tuned.
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National Champion [7421]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 4, 2025, 6:36 PM
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Our nation was totally supported by tariffs until Woodrow Wilson began the income tax. If you give it time and incorporate lower tax rates, there will be an economic boom in America. If you haven't learned this lesson yet, do not fall for the MSM and their scare tactics. It is all they do anymore.
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Orange Blooded [2577]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 4, 2025, 6:52 PM
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Buy what you need not what you want. If anyone has any age on them then you know how to stretch a dollar. Nobody will twist your arm to manage your money foolishly. It's all your choice. Now, if anyone has been trying to keep up with the Jones and you are under water in debt then those folks will have a meltdown. Sit back, don't panic and watch the show. When the dust settles once again it will be a win for the good old USA.
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Tiger Spirit [9777]
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If you cant afford it, dont buy!!***
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Apr 4, 2025, 7:16 PM
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Orange Blooded [2505]
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Re: If you cant afford it, dont buy!!***
Apr 4, 2025, 7:34 PM
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Just a bunch of goobers having their typical knee jerk reactions.
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National Champion [7662]
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Re: If you cant afford it, dont buy!!***
Apr 4, 2025, 8:52 PM
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The problem with that is, COLLEGE GRADUATES CANT EVEN AFFORD RENT AND BASIC UTILITIES RIGHT NOW!!!!! What do you silver spoon boomers not get about that?!?!?! They don't have time to wait when they are being threatened with eviction in a week!
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Re: If you cant afford it, dont buy!!***
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That’s a pretty broad brush you paint with. I’m a boomer who started with nothing and worked my way into a life where I could pay for both of my kid’s college and still retire at 60. Both of them are civil engineers who graduated college between 2012 and 2017 and have no problem making a living. My son in law had student loan debt but they made paying it off a priority, lived well within their means and paid his debt off in 2 years with no government forgiveness. I also know college graduates who struggle to find jobs with their multiple library science degrees. We are all products of the decisions we make. Regardless of our “generation”. Very few people have made a successful living by blaming everyone else. Ever.
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All-Pro [778]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 4, 2025, 10:55 PM
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Good advice on keeping your cool, but does it not bother you that he ran on promises that he would immediately reduce costs and end the forever wars? Instead he starts a new military conflict in Yemen, threatens to start another in Iran and ignites a trade war tanking the market and driving costs up. It just baffles me.
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Ultimate Tiger [33022]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 9:17 AM
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That’s what the dems say he ran on. I know very few people who voted for him that thought or expected those things could be done immediately. And I am one of them.
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All-Pro [778]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 9:19 PM
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Weakest gaslight I’ve ever seen.
There are dozens of tweets and interviews where he explicitly states that he will do that and he believed that those promises helped him win the election.
“Republican have a plan to bring down prices and bring them down very very rapidly”
“Starting on day one, we will end inflation and make America affordable again, to bring down the prices of all goods.“
“Starting the day I take the oath of office, I will rapidly drive prices down and we will make America affordable again. We’re going to make it affordable again.”
“A vote for Trump means your groceries will be cheaper”
"I will govern by a simple motto: Promises made, promises kept."
"Groceries went through the roof and I campaigned on that. I talked about the word ‘groceries’ for a lot, and energy costs now are down. Groceries are down.”
All direct quotes, so do you just ignore the lies or are you okay with them because he is serving the rest of your agenda?
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Ultimate Tiger [33022]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 9:32 PM
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I never expected these things to happen day one. I did expect this administration to start working on the issues very quickly. This is what is happening and people are losing their minds over it. It has been less than 3 months. Give them time to see if they can do what they promised or not. I don't see how anyone could have expected him to fix everything immediately. It didn’t get this screwed up overnight and it will take time to make improvements.
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TigerNet Champion [120626]
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I think you should take a peak at you r retirement account, then get back to us.***
Apr 4, 2025, 7:39 PM
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TigerNet Champion [120626]
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Re: I think you should take a peak at you r retirement account, then get back to us.***
Apr 4, 2025, 7:43 PM
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As far as what could happen, Foreign countries restructuring their trade deals to strengthen their alliances will further diminish the dollar's role as the world reserve currency, a luxury we have enjoyed for over 80 years. Stagflation will will persiost, and unless yu are sitting on a few million, will have a seriously reduced standard of living, while witnessing skyrocketing crime rates, along with ballooning insurance premiums, and all kinds of other fvckery.
Lets hope it does not go that far.
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Asst Coach [873]
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Re: I think you should take a peak at you r retirement account, then get back to us.***
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Skyrocketed insurance rates, record inflation, Skyrocketed crime? That's happening now. Dems been in control 12 of 16 years...done nothing...
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Game Changer [1869]
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Re: I think you should take a peak at you r retirement account, then get back to us.***
Apr 4, 2025, 8:07 PM
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Did Econ 101 teach you sky rocketing crime rates will come from this?
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All-TigerNet [6037]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
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if democrat voters hate it, then common sense tells you, do more of it.
You’re talking about a voting base that keys a car if you limit them to the gender they actually are. A voting base that says women must compete in sports against males. A voting base that , as we’ve found out the last 3 months, willfully allowed ever sorry pos that wanted to come into the U.S. illegally to do so. A voting base that is willing to get bent over more than a Frenchmen in relation to trading.
So yeah, triple it
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Paw Master [17728]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 4, 2025, 9:51 PM
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I believe that tariffs will be excellent negotiationing tool for President Trump to use. Other countries have been draining the IS Treasury dry. It is time the trade guidelines were more even with other countries.
If you look diligently enough you will find tariff free products made in the USA.
We have allowed the United States to get into such a financial mess that changes were necessary. Unfortunately every American Citizen may be negatively affected in the short term. I think we should be patient and back President Trump’s policies.
There are many that hope President Trump supporter’s will quickly give up on his policies. Now is when he needs our support the most.
Or would you like for the country to head down the path Biden was taking us. ???
Remember things will not change overnight !!!
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Orange Blooded [2544]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 4, 2025, 11:00 PM
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Tariffs are just another code word for taxes…. We, the consumer pay the tariffs, China or any other country does not pay the tariffs, the importer does (i.e. merchants in US) and then pass that on to us through increased pricing….. in the short run, we take it up the a r s e, until and if, the goods can be manufactured in the US, and the importers don’t have to import…. It’s a long run move, and the question will be do we the people have the patience to wait it out…
In b-school 101, tariffs = tax on the people……. If we don t play for the long run, the people will suffer, its pretty simple…
I hate it when people dont understand the basics and assume that this means china will pay more, they wont pay any more, it only works if over the long run we stop buying Chinese goods(i.e. will the tariffs decrease demand for foreign products), and that only happens if we replace those products with goods from the us….
Whether you are for or against the current administration and these policies, just realize it’s us, the people, that pay the increase price…… not china or the foreign country
Message was edited by: Tr0utb0y®
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Orange Blooded [2400]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 4, 2025, 10:50 PM
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Don doesn’t have a next move.
He’s playing checkers and ROW playing chess.
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Rival Killer [3037]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 4, 2025, 10:50 PM
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Nm
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CU Guru [1582]
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There isn’t a respectable economist that has publicly backed his tariff plan and economic proposal.
Most of what he’s trying to implement has been tried, not at the scale he’s trying albeit, and failed miserably.
I get the notion of trying to make these companies move manufacturing back to America, buts it’s insane to think that these companies are just going to pick up operations and move them to America immediately. The cheap cost of labor alone is enough to make them not want to move.
At the end of the day, the tariffs hurt American consumers.
They’ll pass the cost onto us, knowing that we’ll pay the difference because we have to live, regardless of what the cost is.
It’s honestly baffling to me that people think a government being ran by majority of the billionaires in the country has the middle classes best interests in mind.
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Orange Blooded [2505]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 3:32 AM
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I can see where you being baffled, is completely understandable.
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CU Guru [1582]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 8:54 AM
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I appreciate your retort being filled with substance and factuality.
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Game Changer [1869]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 8:54 AM
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"respectable economist"
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CU Guru [1582]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 8:57 AM
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It’s crazy that the right has been conditioned to believe that anyone who is critical of their party are bad people and only people with good things to say are credible lol.
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Game Changer [1869]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 1:29 PM
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Yeah ok, lol
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CU Medallion [20695]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 7:17 AM
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The US should be self sustainable!
GO TIGERS!!!
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Game Changer [1869]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
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The U.S. is the largest consumer market in the entire world; outspending the next 10 highest consumer markets/countries combined: EU, CHINA, JAPAN, GERMANY, FRANCE, UK, INDIA, BRAZIL, ITALY. INDONESIA-AUSTRALIA-NZ.
The entire world depends on American consumption.
Anyone peddling "trade war" fears is either a grifter, an imbecile, a liar, or a combination of the previous.
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Orange Phenom [14512]
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Speculation from some really smart guys
Apr 5, 2025, 9:10 AM
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I listen to is that this needs to be coupled with a major reduction to income tax for the lower and middle classes. The idea is that a huge income tax reduction will be needed so that Americans can afford the more expensive goods that will result from the tariffs (otherwise we may face a recession). The tariff revenue along with government cost cutting by DOGE will help to offset the loss in tax revenue.
It's a pretty fine balancing act and many major changes are being made simultaneously so its going to require very good execution to pull off.
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Campus Hero [13620]
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Re: Speculation from some really smart guys
Apr 5, 2025, 1:01 PM
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Sooooooo……….I’m waiting on the Federal Government to execute a very complex policy and to do it very well?
Heh, heh, heh…….yeh……that’s what the Federal Government is known for.
Will it be faster than the 20 years they took on I-35 in Waco?
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 10:01 AM
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"The only way to get these corporations back into the U.S. is to punch them in the gut. And this is exactly what’s happening with the stock market. The stock market is reflecting the punch to the gut to every single mega corporation that is operating in foreign lands but are registered in the US. These companies have no choice but to come back to the U.S. Otherwise, they will price themselves out of the market. So when I see the stock market tumbling as it is now, it’s working."
https://x.com/TONYxTWO/status/1908231817481662585
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Dems had no problem with Bidenomics raising prices through the roofs. Stop it!!!! Trump knows what he is doing!!!! You have 18 months to sit back and watch. Dems were begging W to do the same 20 years ago.
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Standout [244]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 12:43 PM
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We went from “they’re eating the dogs” and “where are the geese” to putting tariffs on penguins, but hey nothing to see here - all the “tariff maths” make complete sense. See the the menu board I’m holding up, it shows it all right here. LMAO at T owning his own TDS.
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Freshman [-67]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 5, 2025, 4:19 PM
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We went from “they’re eating the dogs” and “where are the geese” to putting tariffs on penguins, but hey nothing to see here - all the “tariff maths” make complete sense. See the the menu board I’m holding up, it shows it all right here. LMAO at T owning his own TDS.
PHD. Economics from Clemson:
Tariffs are bad. Check the history when tariffs are hight. The GDP will be less. We will never have a net increase in production jobs. The ship has sailed. Any manufacturing that comes back will be mainly done by robots not people. Our wage rates are too high as they should be. We are a service economy and enjoy high wag rates with the productivity that a highly educated work force that we have.
If you want a reduction in your standard of living raise tariffs. If you want to increase your standard of living get an education and be part of the growing part of our service economy
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Game Changer [1869]
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
Apr 6, 2025, 9:58 AM
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"learn to code" reply
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Re: 2 question about Tariffs
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You must have common sense to comprehend it.
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All I know is that this is on the wrong board.***
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