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TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 11, 2019, 12:08 PM
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Game Changer [1693]
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 11, 2019, 12:14 PM
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Read this earlier, didn't read their algorithm but uofsuc at 18, 6 sec teams top 10. Must get points just for being in the sec. What a joke
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 11, 2019, 12:33 PM
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That's the S&P by Bill Connelly...one of the better statistical versions that have been used the past several years. It's the returning production that made Clemson slip....mainly the losses on defense. Not surprising really. This isn't the AP poll. This one takes tons of things in consideration....and throughout the year, is one of the only ones that actually factors out garbage time stats, etc.
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Clemson Icon [27047]
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Not according to the article."Recruiting impact" was at #10.***
Feb 11, 2019, 4:32 PM
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 11, 2019, 9:59 PM
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That's the S&P by Bill Connelly...one of the better statistical versions that have been used the past several years. It's the returning production that made Clemson slip....mainly the losses on defense. Not surprising really. This isn't the AP poll. This one takes tons of things in consideration....and throughout the year, is one of the only ones that actually factors out garbage time stats, etc.
When I first started reading I felt they were wrong about Clemsons place. After reading that they have Syracuse 56 and BC 71, I have absolutely no respect for the article. I would love to bet any of them on the final rankings of either of those two
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 11, 2019, 1:09 PM
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GR8 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can not climb the ladder,if you start on the top rung**
We have finished higher,than we started, every year for awhile now ____ may as well do it again !!!
GO TIGERS !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Campus Hero [13783]
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You actually do. He added a conference adjustment this
Feb 11, 2019, 1:32 PM
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year that gives SEC teams a 2-3 point bump and similarly penalizes teams from the worst G5 conferences. The ACC falls towards the middle so ACC teams probably don't see much of an adjustment in either direction.
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Game Changer [1925]
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Alabama’s offense ranked higher than ours
Feb 11, 2019, 12:16 PM
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Now that’s just funny right there.
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Re: Alabama’s offense ranked higher than ours
Feb 11, 2019, 12:41 PM
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And I guess Choklahoma is ranked the No 1 offense? Lost 45 - 34 to Bama and a new QB with Clemson and Bama returning their QBs?
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Dynasty Maker [3159]
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 11, 2019, 12:17 PM
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I don't care about any team other than Clemson and being #3 is like a gift from the Football gods combined with a giant chip to be placed on the team's collective shoulder.
Spot the ball!!!!
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CU Guru [1712]
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Love it
Feb 11, 2019, 12:19 PM
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Added motivation.
Please let Dabo see how much people still doubts his program.
Please let Dabo know how his team can't win with the new defensive front 7.
Please...
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Orange Blooded [2772]
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Re: Love it
Feb 11, 2019, 5:18 PM
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Dabo is not the one that needs to see this!
Brent Venables is!! ??
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 11, 2019, 12:19 PM
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LOL, I think SC plays Alabama next year... now that is strength of schedule. Alabama, UGa and Clemson ... 1,2,3 ....
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Orange Phenom [14535]
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 11, 2019, 12:41 PM
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Correct
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Orange Immortal [66347]
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There is no way this ranking can be worthwhile.
Feb 11, 2019, 12:26 PM
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It is preseason and SCar is not ranked #1. But, instead they get #18.
I declare it bogus.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [99267]
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I could care less***
Feb 11, 2019, 12:40 PM
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Orange Immortal [66347]
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Well, look what the cat dragged in ...
Feb 11, 2019, 12:53 PM
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Re: you misspelled "couldn't"***
Feb 12, 2019, 6:05 AM
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Maybe he could but just doesn't want to put forth the effort.
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Orange Immortal [61170]
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Amazing how far FSU has fallen.
Feb 11, 2019, 12:27 PM
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Keep in mind it wasn't that long ago that they were like Clemson and Alabama. Among the unquestioned elite.
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National Champion [7498]
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hilarious at this point isnt' it....
Feb 11, 2019, 12:34 PM
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they don't pay attention and they get left dumbfounded every year. Thats fine with me.
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Clemson Conqueror [11996]
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 11, 2019, 12:35 PM
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Clemson ranks #1 in “everybody is underestimating our recruiting impact”.
#1 in “Coaching up players” and #1 in “beating down all other #1’s on the field.”
In other news, all recruiting services and media outlets are tied for #1 “in being WRONG about Clemson.”
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National Champion [8046]
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 11, 2019, 1:00 PM
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Gumby This is my vote for post of the day! Well said!
The folks who pay attention to recruiting services are the same ones who buy Mel Kiper on NFL players capabilities! I.E. if he was so good; he would have been a GM for some team a long time ago.
His fail rate as far as projection to the next level is high(I have no metric to give; but if you have watched him enough you know).
Recruiting services similarly often give kids who maybe come from a tradition rich program higher marks than their play deserves! And a kid who went to a traditional non-power H.S. a lower mark than they should have. Clemson coaches don't care about recruiting services ranking of players! Seems to me; they get it right more often than they miss! I trust Clemson coaches far more than a recruiting ranking!
Keep in mind Clemson may only offer 150 kids a cycle. Where Alabama or Georgia or Ohio State may offer 350 or better! They take the best of the allotted amount and string the rest out. Clemson only targets those kids who will fit for the Clemson program, period!!!!!!
They'll see!
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MEGADITTOES to ^^^ THIS ^^^!!!
Feb 11, 2019, 7:12 PM
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I have spent the last few weeks watching and rewatching all of the brilliant analysts state emphatically - before the natty - that bama WOULD DO to us what we did to them...
... reminds me of someone saying we’re #3 because of so very many hard, indisputable, scientific, statistical, valid facts and considerations.
BRING IT ON and spot the DAMB ball you bunch of ignorant, arrogant, mofoholes!
I am SO fed up with their boolshite!
GO TIGERS!!!!
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lsu has been so successful the past few years***
Feb 11, 2019, 12:38 PM
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Legend [6876]
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Good, more to prove, play with a chip on the shoulder!***
Feb 11, 2019, 12:45 PM
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Legend [16940]
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It's a ranked analysis, which
Feb 11, 2019, 12:59 PM
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Differs immensely from a ranking of 'opinions'. This is scarcely worth getting undies in a wad!
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There Ya GO...
Feb 11, 2019, 1:02 PM
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disrespect already since they measure numbers & talent only but not heart & drive!
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Dynasty Maker [3538]
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Re: There Ya GO...
Feb 11, 2019, 1:13 PM
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lightBulbbill has spoken -- let there be peace !!! GO TIGERS !!!!!!!!!
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Re: There Ya GO...
Feb 11, 2019, 3:18 PM
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44-16***
Feb 11, 2019, 1:15 PM
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Orange Blooded [2379]
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Probably due to glaring question marks at the QB position.
Feb 11, 2019, 1:47 PM
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I'm not sure this Trevor Lawrence guy is going to work out.
Also, real talent deficits at WR and RB.
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Game Changer [2005]
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 11, 2019, 1:56 PM
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Back on the ROY bus for 2019!!
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Dynasty Maker [3232]
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Dang, that didn't take long. 28 points? Psst, get on the second bus***
Feb 11, 2019, 3:40 PM
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Bama will be the BEST TEAM EVER (again)
Feb 11, 2019, 2:16 PM
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Alabama has a bigger edge on the rest of the field in this ranking compared to 2018 - almost five points clear of No. 2 in Georgia (35.4-30.7).
Gosh they may have the best college team EVER!!! They could certainly beat some NFL teams. This is unfair to the rest of college football. They will be at least a double digit favorite over anyone else. Just give them the trophy now!
(Did I miss any of those narratives we heard last year?)
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Paw Master [16268]
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We musta left some doubts.
Feb 11, 2019, 2:22 PM
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All I can say about this is, "Thank You. Thank You, very much."
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Re: We musta left some doubts.
Feb 11, 2019, 6:20 PM
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I guess we needed to score that last TD!
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CU Medallion [19652]
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ACC! ACC! ACC!***
Feb 11, 2019, 2:26 PM
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 11, 2019, 2:32 PM
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It is a mystery to me why any Clemson fan cares where we are ranked. Keep in mind, in the playoff era the team ranked #1 entering the playoffs has lost every single time...including both times Clemson was ranked #1 entering the playoffs. I personally hope we remain ranked below Alabama or Georgia all year. Entering the playoffs ranked #2, #3, or #4 is fine with me.
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 11, 2019, 3:13 PM
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Because we also want to be the first #1 seed to win the CFP.
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Paw Master [16774]
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In all honesty, what the #### has UGA done to merit that
Feb 11, 2019, 2:40 PM
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ranking? Squander talent and choke vs Alabama? By that metric, half the SEC should be in front of us
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Re: In all honesty, what the #### has UGA done to merit that
Feb 11, 2019, 2:43 PM
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They are the ONLY team to play Alabama close and with pre-season polls, that is all that matters... how close you lose to bammy.
We tried and failed by 28 points
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All-In [27366]
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I wish they hadn't even ranked us.
Feb 11, 2019, 2:50 PM
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We eat disrespect like candy.
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Ok I get the Bama Thing....But Georgia Hhahahahhahahah
Feb 11, 2019, 2:58 PM
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Kirby is a Ruhtard of the highest order and UGA's locker room is not in a good spot.
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Orange Blooded [4854]
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 11, 2019, 3:09 PM
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What is this going to be our 9th year in a row finishing above our preseason ranking?
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Clemson Sports Icon [57464]
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Irrelevant***
Feb 11, 2019, 3:58 PM
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Clemson Icon [27047]
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Where would I find their formulae and the stats used...? Thanks.***
Feb 11, 2019, 4:24 PM
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Clemson Icon [27047]
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Thanks again... I now have about a dozen questions to ask.
Feb 11, 2019, 5:11 PM
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Just the basic explanations leave some totally baffling rankings....
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Orange Blooded [2379]
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Which SEC team
Feb 11, 2019, 4:45 PM
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did they have to move out of the Top Ten to make room for "Little Old Clemson"?
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Ring of Honor [22902]
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We only beat Bammer by 28...
Feb 11, 2019, 5:15 PM
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Until we 70-0 them, we’re not much better than them, or any better at all!
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~JKB
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Re: They are going to continue
Feb 11, 2019, 6:19 PM
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the Bama/ UGA 1-2 thing as long they win the recruiting battles. They want 2017 again with an all SEC final.
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Commissioner [970]
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Re: They are going to continue
Feb 11, 2019, 6:23 PM
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Guesses on when supermutt shows up here since uga is ranked 2nd?
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Orange Blooded [2457]
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That is hilarious
Feb 11, 2019, 6:24 PM
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I remember hearing a stat that Clemson outperformed our preseason rankings in the last several years. So it will be next year.
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110%er [8867]
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I like how Law year turned out with these rankings
Feb 11, 2019, 6:46 PM
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Or measurements. #Allin Go Tigers
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 11, 2019, 7:24 PM
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"We might not be favored to win the daggum game, but we're not anybody's dog!"
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 11, 2019, 7:57 PM
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I understand that it's simple statistical analysis, but when your #18 team is incapable of going better than 5-7, your analysis is pretty flawed.
The second best ACC team from 2018 is positioned at #56--3 spots below the lowest-rated SEC team.
Two items working against SYR in this rating: Dungy's production will be missing in 2019, and the 5-year avg doesn't include the most recent season, when they were 10-3. Hmmm.
Barbers still has a good but shallow D returning. And I figure they're much better than both Vandy and The Chad-backs, and probably the Chickens, too.
UVA at #41, South Carolina #18. I'm now laughing until it hurts.
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Feb 11, 2019, 9:27 PM
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I guess we shoulda hung 50 on Bama.
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Does this mean Bama recovers their ...,
Feb 11, 2019, 10:32 PM
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.... “Factor” next year?!?
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 11, 2019, 11:40 PM
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Top 3 things that confuse me about this beyond just being 3rd.
3) We are 3rd offensively. Really?
2) We are 3rd with 5 year weighted average behind Alabama and O31-0 State. I thought weighted would mean the most recent years would be more important. I am obviously wrong.
3) We Finished 3rd in their rankings last year. What the ####?
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 12, 2019, 5:07 AM
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use it as motivation like the Pats did.
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Mascot [24]
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Re: TNET: Clemson ranked No. 3 in preseason CFB ranking
Feb 12, 2019, 10:56 AM
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Whatever BS Nation...ask us how we felt about #3 pre-season ranking when we raise the Natty again on January 13, 2020 in New Orleans.
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Orange Elite [5174]
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Overthinking it...
Feb 12, 2019, 12:44 PM
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...that is all.
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