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Portal departures
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Oct 18, 2023, 6:36 PM
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Kelly Bryant
Travien Feaster
Xavier Kelly
Shaq Smith
TJ Chase
Nyles Pinckney
Zerrick Cooper
Hunter Johnson
Jordan Williams
LeAnthony Williams
Chase Brice
Josh Belk
Kyler McMichael
Mike Jones Jr
Lyn-J Dixon
Darnell Jefferies
Frank Ladson
Joseph Charleston
Kane Patterson
Chez Mellusi
Etinosa Reuben
Vonta Bentley
Jaelyn Lay
Mikey Dukes
Taisun Phommachanh
Ray Thornton
Kaleb Boateng
DJ Uiagalelei
Demarckus Bowman
EJ Williams
Fred Davis
Paul Tchio
Sergio Allen
Malcolm Greene
Ajou Ajou
Kevin Swint
Kobe Pace
Dacari Collins
Most of these players never made it to the NFL. Some of them still have a chance. But realistically, how many will actually make an NFL roster? Maybe just DJ?
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Re: Portal departures
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Oct 18, 2023, 6:38 PM
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And only a couple of these would have helped Clemson if they had stayed.
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Athletic Dir [881]
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That's where I disagree. If we claim to be
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Oct 18, 2023, 6:43 PM
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developmental, how can we say they would have never contributed here. A couple more years in our system with good coaching they could have very well been contributors. Instead we're stuck replacing with high schoolers and walk ons
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Re: That's where I disagree. If we claim to be
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Oct 18, 2023, 6:57 PM
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LOL well then you're clearly missing the point that it's not about the coaches or development...these kids were going to leave regardless. They weren't good enough to start while they were at Clemson and didn't have the wherewithal to stick it out and "develop". It is what it is, some kids think the grass is greener, some maybe know they're not going to the pros so they just want to play as much as they can in college. Bottom line, they left because they weren't good enough to start, and likely even saw younger players behind them that they still would not be able to beat out.
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Re: That's where I disagree. If we claim to be
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Oct 18, 2023, 7:01 PM
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We just had a YOUNG and inexperienced team (primarily O) basically beat FSU up and down the field - you know, the poster child for "the portal". Also a team loaded with upperclassmen - ie this had to be their year bc they gonna suffer next year - and we beat ourselves.
We're fine, apparently everyone thinks the portal will solve our problems when a) we can't compete for the players in the portal that are "as good" as the ones we've recruited, because just don't have the NIL $$s, and that is what the top players in the portal are looking for; so simply put, we wouldn't get "better players" than we've recruited using the portal. Fact.
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Athletic Dir [881]
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I think you're missing the point. Yes our
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Oct 18, 2023, 7:35 PM
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YOUNG team made just enough mistakes to lose to a good FSU team. Problem is, if the attrition to portal continues and we only replace with high schoolers, we will always be YOUNG. It's common sense. We're playing with self induced restrictions.
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Bingo****
Oct 19, 2023, 9:19 AM
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Re: That's where I disagree. If we claim to be
Oct 18, 2023, 9:07 PM
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We did play probably our best game against FSU and came up a little short.
But FSU isn’t close to being the best team in the country, so are we really “fine”?
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We used to be "We Too Deep"... before the portal
Oct 19, 2023, 9:23 AM
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These players didn't want to transfer because of the 1 year sit out. He's right, a large percentage would have stayed with the promise of some playing time. Now they jumped ship to play immediately.
And maybe DJ gets drafted in a very late round. I think he goes undrafted and signs on to a team eventually.
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Re: Portal departures
Oct 18, 2023, 7:14 PM
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DJ is the only one really doing well at their new school.
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Re: Portal departures
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Oct 18, 2023, 7:22 PM
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Chez is/ was doing pretty well at Wisconsin but broke his leg and will miss the rest of the year but he was averaging like 6 yards a carry and on pace to scare 1000 yards on the season … and I’m not sure about stats but Bentley starts for the fighting deions but yes not a ton making huge impacts
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Chez was a beast when healthy and KB certainly helped Mizzu***
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Only because OSU has a great OL and running game. DJU just hands off and then chunks a ball downfield off of play action. Basically, no real quick decisions have to be made. You know, a way more complicated offense. LMAO...
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No, several of them had already helped us as starters and
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quality depth
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Alternative question. Positive impact to winning now?
Oct 18, 2023, 8:17 PM
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f yes, bad move.
If not, always a Tiger and sincerely good luck.
No one will know and so, great post, thank you.
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Re: Portal departures
Oct 18, 2023, 7:02 PM
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DJ
😂 😂 😂
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Re: Portal departures
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Oct 18, 2023, 7:13 PM
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I said maybe lol.
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Mellusi will be on an NFL roster
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Oct 18, 2023, 7:13 PM
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If he gets back to 100% healthy
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Beat me to it...If Chez can pass the medicals, he's on
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somebody'y team
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Re: Portal departures
Oct 18, 2023, 7:13 PM
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The vast majority of these occurred in 21 and 22 so it’s hard to make a determination on draft worthiness just yet.
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True and DJ might. I still wonder if LJD had bought in
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Oct 18, 2023, 8:42 PM
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And played that we might have actually beat Georgia. But it’s, buts, etc . . .
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Re: Portal departures
Oct 18, 2023, 8:45 PM
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I dont plan on counting but how many over how many years? Would love an average lost per year vs. other teams. Pretty sure they cut guys where we do not. I am good with that.
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Re: Portal departures
Oct 18, 2023, 10:39 PM
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Several of these guys were grad transfers yea? I'd wager this number in this time span is very low compared to most p5 schools. Also how many of these guys left and were immediately replaced with a guy Clemson wanted but had no room for until a slot opened?
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Re: Portal departures
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To those saying all of these portal departures would not have helped have missed the entire point. Mathmatically, MATHMATICALLY, you can't have players ONLY use the portal to LEAVE and never have new players coming IN via the portal. It's a war of attrition that causes us to shave off talent a little each year because he year we replace upper classman with freshmen. Rinse and repeat a couple of years and we have shaved off lots of talent. It's the MATHS!
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It really is that simple. I think even Dabo would
Oct 19, 2023, 9:01 AM
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admit that. I think in Dabo's approach he believed the culture he has/is creating would cause the kids to stick it out versus transferring. So far that hasn't really been the case.
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That's unseen by those who want a quick fix.
Oct 19, 2023, 9:09 AM
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Losing potential future stars is the unforeseen consequences of habitual use of the portal. That is the specific reason I support Dabo's reluctance to recruit regularly from the portal.
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Re: Portal departures
Oct 19, 2023, 9:08 AM
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I dont see any players on that list that would make a difference for us now.
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Re: Portal departures
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Oct 19, 2023, 9:10 AM
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I mean Feaster spent 3-4 years in the NFL. Albeit practice squad for 3 of them. Does that count?
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Lol
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Ok.
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Ya see, we don't need no portal locker room..
Oct 19, 2023, 9:17 AM
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dividers; we can give all those ships to walk-ons & improve our odds of landing the next Renfrow—
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