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Orange Blooded [2350]
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Program is at a crossroad
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Nov 3, 2024, 11:53 AM
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Last night to me felt like this program was at a crossroad. If we win and win convincingly it sets the fan base and media narrative in a direction of ease and a mindset of we are back on track. Last night instead made me feel we are behind and not sure we can get back to what we were 6-10 years ago. we no longer have the best athletes, heck not sure we have the best athletes in the state right now. When is the last time someone could say that? . Look at the recruiting classes and all the decommits. College football has changed for the worse but if you want to compete in todays game you have to adapt or die. This program is on the edge of dying unless something changes I’m afraid. Hate to sound like that but just the way I feel . Thoughts?
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Tiger Spirit [10048]
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Re: Program is at a crossroad
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Nov 3, 2024, 11:54 AM
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There’s no doubt about it
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National Champion [7456]
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Re: Program is at a crossroad
Nov 3, 2024, 11:56 AM
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Agree with everything you said.
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Orange Blooded [2236]
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Re: Program is at a crossroad
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Nov 3, 2024, 12:01 PM
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I think Dabo said it best a few years ago, "when college football becomes professionals, I'm done!", or something to that effect. I love the guy, he's been the best thing that ever happened to Clemson Football since Danny Ford, and maybe forever, but something is going to have to be corrected, but as I've said many times before, "I don't think the Portal is the answer!"
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Orange Beast [6492]
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Considering how the 5stars decommitted when Brent Venables left
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Nov 3, 2024, 12:00 PM
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and Wiggins almost transferred
Mukumba and Pride Jr and other left... the cross roads was a year or two ago
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Orange Beast [6492]
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now we can only FSU style portal build***
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Nov 3, 2024, 12:00 PM
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Rival Killer [3090]
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Not yet.
Nov 3, 2024, 1:23 PM
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Only if we lose a bunch of transfers in December.
If that happens, either we are screwed or Dabo is, or both.
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National Champion [8067]
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Clemson Icon [27497]
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Tiger Spirit [9767]
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Re: Program is at a crossroad
Nov 3, 2024, 12:40 PM
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Look, there is no program that wins it's conference and makes the Playoff every year. We had an incredible run but means absolutely nothing today. If you had Indiana at 9-0 today, go buy some lottery tickets. Things change and if you expect to have things stay the way "they used to be", you are bound to fail. Louisville did not play well enough to win as easily as they did, but they sure as heck outplayed on the lines of scrimmage and that is where games are won or lost.
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Re: Program is at a crossroad
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Nov 3, 2024, 12:50 PM
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Dabo needs to swallow his pride and get some of these talented portal players.
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Orange Blooded [2121]
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Re: Program is at a crossroad
Nov 3, 2024, 1:47 PM
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He can’t afford them…. Someone just said we raised 3.5 Million for NIL for football and basketball. You got players making that much money on rosters.
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All-TigerNet [6080]
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Portal
Nov 3, 2024, 2:01 PM
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If Clemson had an unlimited amount of NIL money, Dabo would still have to tamper and cheat to get the portal players that can contribute. He is not going to cheat. Clemson is going to have to pay incoming HS freshmen their going rate to stay competitive.
How do the upcoming payment rule changes impact IPTAY money? Can money from IPTAY be used to pay players? Can IPTAY and the 110 Society be combined into one organization?
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Clemson Icon [27497]
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I ain't upset we lose games
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Nov 3, 2024, 1:33 PM
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And I ain't upset we aren't in championship contention.
I'm upset we show up to play ball like a deer in the head lights and play with a softness and hesitation that's flat out inexcusable and not recognizable wrt teams from the past
No pride, no toughness, no swagger, not disciplined football. That's on the HC
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National Champion [7109]
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Re: Program is at a crossroad
Nov 3, 2024, 1:18 PM
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When was the last time we could say we didn’t have the best athletes in the state? How about when we lost 5 in a row? And who was the coach then and the coach who dug us out of that? Dabo.
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Rival Killer [3090]
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When was that?
Nov 3, 2024, 1:24 PM
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Before the portal/NIL era.
How is Dabo adapting to the new reality?
He isn't.
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Tiger Cub [16]
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Re: Program is at a crossroad
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Nov 3, 2024, 1:18 PM
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I agree with you as well. However, I feel that crossroads was a year or 2 ago when it was proven that Dabo can’t replace coaches and maintain a quality product on the field the same way Saban did.
I’m sorry to sound negative but I strongly believe we are on the backside of the Dabo era at Clemson.
It just doesn’t seem like we have the same fire and sense of urgency as in years past.
I hope I’m wrong, but we have fallen off, obviously.
Go Tigers!
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Re: Program is at a crossroad
Nov 3, 2024, 1:21 PM
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Dabo has lost his mojo. He use to be positive and up beat w a lot of energy. Now he’s bitter and crotchety and gets pissed when asked any tough questions. The game he loves has passed him by.
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Rival Killer [3090]
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Compounded by; he has't lost his ego
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Nov 3, 2024, 1:26 PM
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...his stubbornness, or his valuing of personal loyalty over performance.
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Now that it is pro ball, with no caps, no rules, etc., I think Clemson's
Nov 3, 2024, 2:11 PM
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only hope going forward is either get into one of the Power 2 Conferences, find a booster who is loaded beyond belief, or both. The sport has devolved into a player spending war.
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