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Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
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All-In [10922]
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Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
Nov 30, 2024, 6:35 PM
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Thoughts?
What is the trajectory of Clemson Football? [Results]
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Orange Beast [6281]
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Down
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Nov 30, 2024, 6:37 PM
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Two losses at home with one emptying the stands before the game was over
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All-TigerNet [5928]
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Re: Down
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Nov 30, 2024, 8:16 PM
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I would add a second 4 loss season after Smu game. Hard to argue 4 losses is good.
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All-In [10922]
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Re: Down
Dec 7, 2024, 9:08 AM
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Not a bad point
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National Champion [7546]
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Re: Down
Dec 7, 2024, 9:17 AM
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Yeah, not sure why this needs a poll. It’s obvious. But, some perspective is needed. We had no where else to go but down. Doesn’t mean we can’t get back up, but some things are going to need to change to make that happen. Guess we’ll see if it’s the revenue sharing we’ve been hearing so much about.
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Game Changer [1803]
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I hope it does not happen, but should we lose tonight, a 5 loss season is
Dec 7, 2024, 4:23 PM
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possible. It is sad.
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Hall of Famer [8125]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
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Nov 30, 2024, 6:38 PM
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Been trending down since 2020 season.
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Orange Beast [6547]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
Nov 30, 2024, 6:38 PM
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down
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Ring of Honor [22865]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
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Nov 30, 2024, 6:44 PM
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Recruiting is down…all the hires since TElliot/Scott/Venables except Luke are fails. Absolute need to play seniority over better talent until it’s too late……. Other than that…things are peachy.
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National Champion [7819]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
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Nov 30, 2024, 6:45 PM
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Well it certainly is not going back up anytime soon!
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Rock Defender [69]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
Nov 30, 2024, 6:47 PM
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Down
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All-American [583]
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Up is the answer requiring explanation, not down.**
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Nov 30, 2024, 6:49 PM
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Nm
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All-In [10922]
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Re: Up is the answer requiring explanation, not down.**
Nov 30, 2024, 8:14 PM
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Ha! Good point
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Associate AD [1005]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
Nov 30, 2024, 6:50 PM
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Don’t buy stock
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Dynasty Maker [3331]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
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Nov 30, 2024, 6:51 PM
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Down unfortunately. But it has been going down. We wasted a few years with a terrible QB that could have been playoff worthy.
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Offensive Star [346]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
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Nov 30, 2024, 8:20 PM
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We got beat by the only 3 good teams we played this year. I wouldn’t say we are heading in an upward direction.
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All-Conference [402]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
Nov 30, 2024, 8:23 PM
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Down, recruiting is tanking. Coaching staff is below standard.
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Tiger Titan [47434]
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Letterman [198]
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If we lose
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Dec 7, 2024, 3:48 PM
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Does Neff restructure Dabs contract?
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Orange Beast [6278]
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CU Medallion [20711]
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Re: Yet if we somehow win tonight the homers will say that our season was a success
Dec 7, 2024, 4:26 PM
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Winning the ACC and making the playoffs would be a successful season. However, that doesn’t mean we don’t have challenges to address.
I know that is hard for you to understand when you are so used to having to convince people that’s seasons are successful without winning any championships.
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Fan [30]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
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Nov 30, 2024, 8:23 PM
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From my observations, the downward trajectory began following the positive Ostarine tests in 2018.
As a result of those tests and the investigation, I think there may have been significant changes in the diet & nutrition component of the football program.
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Paw Master [17860]
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finaly someone else says it
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Nov 30, 2024, 8:25 PM
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been thinking the same..not popular but ever since that.. injuries have went up ten fold as well
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Ring of Honor [23484]
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I say down because the depth of the problem is not fully acknowledged.
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Nov 30, 2024, 8:33 PM
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Dabo presents it as we are just as good as ever but we have a few things not go our way. And a lot of fans seem to think we are just a few random accidents away from a national championship.
The defense appears broken under the current leadership. I am more optimistic than many about our offense.... but plenty see THAT as broken. (I actually think we are trending up offensively, but overall down with defense and special teams.)
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All-In [10902]
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Re: I say down because the depth of the problem is not fully acknowledged.
Dec 7, 2024, 9:11 AM
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I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment.
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All-In [10902]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
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Dec 7, 2024, 9:10 AM
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Statistically it’s on a downward trend since 2020. We have lost more games in that span than the previous ten years. Those are the facts. My opinion is we’re on a downward trend. Player development and coaching seems MIA. Defense has fallen off a cliff.
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Varsity [100]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
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Dec 7, 2024, 9:20 AM
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I think it's going down and I believe the "glory days" are truly well and over. Now, unlike some here I don't put this all on Dabo though. It's true I don't agree with every decision he's made but it's also true Dabo knows football better than I do. So, I have no choice but to really accept his decisions and frankly I'm fine with that.
What I think contributes most to our downward trend and why I think it's going to continue is purely because of money and recruiting. In this modern college football Clemson just cannot compete with the top dogs. Just look at this years recruiting class. We have been out recruited by many in the ACC alone. I think you're being naive if you think this year is a one off. Short of some crazy rich donor just deciding out of the blue they're fine with pumping out cash for recruit after recruit at an insane degree it's just going to continue.
It's sad but it is what it is.
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National Champion [7521]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
Dec 7, 2024, 9:20 AM
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We need a “######” button on this poll. We need some hope.
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National Champion [7521]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
Dec 7, 2024, 9:21 AM
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Wow. V-I-a-g-r-a is a censored word. Tigernet oversight gone haywire.
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Letterman [192]
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Dec 7, 2024, 3:51 PM
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May not look like it now but we will have veteran Cade next year with a matured wesco and Moore, what looks like it will be a better D and hopefully new coordinators. I see nothing but up
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Game Day Hero [4373]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
Dec 7, 2024, 3:55 PM
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It doesn’t take a poll to prove that we are trending down from 2 national titles with cfp appearances in 6 straight seasons to being an underdog to freakin SMU. Those are just the facts…it’s not subjective.
You should ask this question after the game tonight. I believe a win here would put us on a forward trajectory similar to the way the LSU win in 2012 did
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Letterman [192]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
Dec 7, 2024, 3:58 PM
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The question was as of RIGHT NOW what is the trajectory not what is the trajectory based off of 5 years ago.
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Game Day Hero [4373]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
Dec 7, 2024, 4:02 PM
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Until something happens to start and up tick, we’re still trending down. A coot loss at home last week didn’t help the trend
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MVP [523]
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Asst Coach [879]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
Dec 7, 2024, 4:01 PM
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Down
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CU Medallion [20711]
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DOWN but not out
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Dec 7, 2024, 4:11 PM
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We have a lot of questions to address in the offseason. How we address those will give us that answer.
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Paw Warrior [4989]
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Dec 7, 2024, 4:12 PM
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Scout Team [85]
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Down regardless of what happens tonight.
Dec 7, 2024, 4:32 PM
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As long as leadership denies this, it will not change. A win might change the slope of how fast but unless something changes with recruiting or roster management the CFP windows are going to get farther away. With a loss tonight, this season will be presented with a narrative that is was 'good' because 'we made it to last game with a chance to get to CFP and that is all you can ask for', not the complete failure it was.
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Orange Blooded [2192]
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Re: Poll: What is the trajectory of Clemson Football?
Dec 7, 2024, 5:09 PM
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Up. Across the roster this is a young team that could easily be 11-1. The improvement since DJ left and Coaches were fired has been too slow but it is improvement. Revenue sharing starts in July which the HC says is going to help.
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