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TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Nov 10, 2025, 9:33 PM
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Interesting hire?
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I Wonder What Version Of This Love Shack Is Going To Produce?? ---
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Nov 10, 2025, 10:36 PM
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If he is in charge now.....its only natural to expect much better.....because we can't keep doing the exact same thing all the time. Things on how this team looks and is conditioned is going to matter going forward...when going up against elite competition. I'm not saying we got to go get a Costco size box of steroids for each player ...but we got to get the high school look off our running backs and linebackers ...defensive backs....etc..... ......especially after year one.
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This was a Dabo special.
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Nov 10, 2025, 9:47 PM
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1. Make the easy, lazy hire - promote from within.
2. Defend the S&C program to justify lazy hire.
3. Weave in how successful we’ve been in the past.
I am sure he’s really happy with himself right now.
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Re: This was a Dabo special.
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Nov 10, 2025, 9:51 PM
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If he turned down being the Vikings strength and conditioning coach, what does that mean to you? A joke hire??? Who would you have hired, since you seem to think your make a better hire
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Re: This was a Dabo special.
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Yes this is a joke hire.
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Similar role
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Nov 10, 2025, 10:36 PM
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He turned down a "similar role" not the Vikings' S&C coach job.
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Per the article
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Nov 10, 2025, 10:42 PM
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“But Dennis was leaving, he had the Minnesota Vikings head job, and he had been there and knew them and they wanted him to be their head strength coach…”
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Describe head job please***
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Nov 10, 2025, 11:00 PM
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Re: Describe head job please***
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Nov 10, 2025, 11:12 PM
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“their head strength coach…”?
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He said "Head Job"
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Nov 10, 2025, 11:50 PM
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Beef
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Nov 10, 2025, 11:57 PM
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to Teeth?
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Re: Beef
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Nov 11, 2025, 12:01 AM
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We have not seemed to have great strength and conditioning lately.
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Nov 10, 2025, 11:34 PM
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Why promote someone on the staff that has underachieved as a whole lately?
Unless Love has notably different ideas and approaches than Batson had, it seems like we will likely get more of the same.
Of course, Dabo thinks our S&C has been great, so it makes total sense why he would want that continuity. I just haven’t seen us play tough, physical football in a while. Our tenacity doesn’t seem to match our recruiting rankings. Players don’t seem to improve much from freshmen to seniors.
I realize that all of these issues aren’t solely related to S&C, I just would’ve liked to see Dabo do something different in an effort to improve the program and it doesn’t feel like he did.
Finally, I would be shocked if Love was going to be hired as the Vikings’ director of S&C. Why would an NFL team hire a guy who has never directed anything or spent any significant time in the NFL to direct their entire program?
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Re: We have not seemed to have great strength and conditioning lately.
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Nov 11, 2025, 12:35 AM
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Coach Swinney for his part doesn't play tough,
physical football ask former DC Kevin ( Finesse) Steele.
Enter DC Brent ( Nut-Cuttin Time ) Venables,
DefLine Elite Coaches Brooks and Hobby with
Venables coaching linebackers, and Reed coaching
secondary best coaching combo to ever coach
defense at Clemson. They were all tough/physical
coaches.
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Steele had tough defenses elsewhere
Nov 11, 2025, 10:07 AM
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You can credit Saban for the 2008 defense at Alabama if you want, but he also had very good defenses at Auburn after being run out of Clemson. Heck, he fielded a good defense at Clemson in 2010. Our defense stunk under Steele in 2011, but it also stunk under Brent in 2012. I think the biggest issue was a drop off in talent. It took a few years to get it built back up.
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Re: We have not seemed to have great strength and conditioning lately.
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Nov 11, 2025, 2:03 AM
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You dont even know they underachieved. They might be doing a great job and you just blame it on the strength program when we play poorly or look weaker. For all you know we are overachieving.
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I dont claim to know all the ins and outs.
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Nov 11, 2025, 8:43 AM
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But it does not seem that our players, who by all indications are highly ranked as football players and as athletes, appear elite on the field when in a Clemson uniform.
That could be due to coaching, development, confidence, or strength and conditioning - or a combination of these.
For the record, I’m not blaming everything on S&C. I don’t even think it’s a big problem. But I do think it could be better and this promotion doesn’t feel like much of a chance for improvement.
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The Minnesota Vikings disagree with you.
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Nov 11, 2025, 11:17 AM
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But, you know, what do they know about S&C. Flights to Minn/St. Paul are cheap. Go on up and school 'em a little.
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Do the Vikings disagree?
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Nov 11, 2025, 11:20 AM
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Did you ask them if they have a positive impression of our strength and conditioning program?
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You must be from the government.
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Nov 11, 2025, 11:24 AM
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Generally, and I may be reaching here, but generally, in the private, for-profit sector, when you offer someone a role, you probably have a positive impression of that someone's product/process, and believe that product/process will help further your organization's goal(s).
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Im calling BS on the Vikings offering him their head S&C position.
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Nov 12, 2025, 3:47 PM
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Assistant, sure, but not the guy in charge of it.
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Re: I dont claim to know all the ins and outs.
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Nov 11, 2025, 11:34 AM
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“I dont claim to know all the ins and outs“ but you feel like you should lead a crusade against this hire either way. You once again expose yourself fully. Thanks.
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I dont have to know every little detail to suspect that Dabo was lazy
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Nov 12, 2025, 3:52 PM
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in making this promotion.
Again, he may be the best S&C mind in college football today, and has all the intangibles to make us the finest, healthiest, most well conditioned program.
But the optics here are that Dabo thinks our current S&C program is great and that maintaining the status who with an internal promotion is the best option.
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No I am not.
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Nov 11, 2025, 8:43 AM
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Right.
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Nov 11, 2025, 11:20 AM
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"Finally, I would be shocked if Love was going to be hired as the Vikings’ director of S&C."
So it's not that he lied, it's just that he ... lied.
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Re: We have not seemed to have great strength and conditioning lately.
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Nov 11, 2025, 8:58 AM
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He’s already overused that insult in the thread about Dabo “failing a lot lately”. He’s moved on to insulting him by calling his decisions lazy.
When he denies it he is the one lying. We’ve seen it all before. It’s his tired schtick.
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Re: We have not seemed to have great strength and conditioning lately.
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Nov 11, 2025, 11:32 AM
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Nailed it ....again!
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Maybe because crappy teams can so easily push our stool in? Maybe
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Nov 11, 2025, 11:02 AM
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we watch other games and see how big and physical those teams are? I don't know if it's recruiting misses or development or what, but neither do you. I just know that any Top 10 team would blow our doors off and dominate both lines of scrimmage.
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Re: Maybe because crappy teams can so easily push our stool in? Maybe
Nov 11, 2025, 3:57 PM
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One TU for "push our stool in..." hehehehe
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Thanks for the tip.
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Nov 11, 2025, 11:25 AM
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I am honored that you used one of your 1.8 posts/month to tell me this.
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His pulse > your pulse.
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Nov 11, 2025, 11:34 AM
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Therefore his insights might be > your insights.
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They might be!
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Nov 12, 2025, 3:49 PM
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Very possible.
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No opinion really but fwiw, you can Google the top strength coaches in CFB****
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He has GOT to stop bringing up the past
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I’ve never been so annoyed at someone I barely know. He continues to not read the room and at some point you have to conclude he’s either too stupid or too arrogant.
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Re: He has GOT to stop bringing up the past
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Arrogant is the correct answer
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Re: He has GOT to stop bringing up the past
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Dude, I mean this respectfully… it’s his room. He reads it based on the world he lives in.
I get the frustration, I genuinely do. I just think this is who he is now. Hall of mirrors and all he sees is Dabo and the past when all we did was win.
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Re: He has GOT to stop bringing up the past
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talking about a guys retirement is actually THE PERFECT time to reflect and go down memory lane and talk about accomplishments.
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Re: He has GOT to stop bringing up the past
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If he was talking about Batson at a retirement party and focused solely on him. But imo, listening to it, Dabo did what he always does on most questions... talk about HIS life, and his accomplishments. Makes it out like "look what I've done " and "if nobody is willing to accept his word unconditional " then he'll take his toys and go somewhere else.
I could careless who he hires, but when he's not winning, media is supposed to question why. No one is supposed to worship idols is my belief. Dabo comes across as wanting a cult and be that idol. Jmho
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Re: This was a Dabo special.
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Of all the positions to cry about you have to be actually ####### stupid to go on record about this. People have such short memories they forget “Fire Batson” became a joke at the expense of every moron that thinks they know better who are S&C coach should be. There is plenty to complain about but you can’t avoid stamping “Hard-R” across your forehead by chiming in this? Pure, lowest decile intelligence on display in this thread. And look who is in the middle of it.
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She can't help it.
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Hopefully, Bakich will win another championship soon and she'll have another Clemson coach to bash trying to make Brad look less mediocre.
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You seem to be the only one crying here.
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Please sit this one out while the rest of us talk about improving the football program.
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Re: You seem to be the only one crying here.
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Says the guy with the long list of whining complaints about this hire. 😂😂😂
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Questioning the quality of this promotion isnt whining.
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Do you think we have played like a tough, well conditioned football team recently? Because I don’t.
He may prove to be a great promotion. It just feels like the lazy/easy decision, rather than one which was made after a great deal of research, interviewing, and evaluating.
Again, perhaps Dabo has spent months of intense effort, determining who our next strength and conditioning director should be. I hope he has, and arrived at this decision accordingly. But based on his actions, and what he has said, it feels like he simply pressed the easy button.
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Re: Questioning the quality of this promotion isnt whining.
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If you were sincere, you would be forming opinions in the absence of credible information. That would make you stupid. Pretending to care makes you a troll. It’s well established you’re one or the other.
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Re: Questioning the quality of this promotion isnt whining.
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It feels like you simply pressed the easy button by creating yet another opportunity to take shots at anything Dabo does without really having any information to support your claims just because it fits your tired narrative. The effort put into the research, interviewing and evaluation for this position was likely done over 2 years ago when Love was hired to come here as the strength coach in waiting. But again, I’m not surprised you aren’t willing to give Dabo credit for having a plan that takes 2 years to develop. That wouldn’t fit your lazy narrative.
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Re: You seem to be the only one crying here.
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I’m sure you have a lot to point to in your life that demonstrates your superior intelligence and decision making. People of such profound insight and ability usually spend years and hundreds of hours trolling the forum of a team they don’t care about.
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Re: This was a Dabo special.
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The guy appears to be well credentialed, spent a number of years as an assistant, spent years working in other noteworthy positions and returns 2 years ago. Sounds like he was called back to take the position.
I think it's a fair question to ask what role Love has taken that sees the team appearing not as strong or well conditioned as do some of our opponents, but putting down another "hire within" without acknowledging noteworthy not-Clemson experience and the timing of his return is simply criticizing for the sake of criticizing.
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Re: This was a Dabo special.
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Nov 10, 2025, 10:21 PM
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Wait what? Why would you actually do any homework about the promotion instead of announcing angrily that it’s the dumbest thing that could have ever happened? About a postion not one person to have chimed in so far knows a G-D thing about.
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So that would include you right?
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Re: So that would include you right?
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Yes. Of course. I knew that Batson was highly regarded within the industry when everyone else was saying he stunk. That’s about it. None of you, nor myself, have any basis to actually measure the merits of a S&C coach. “Them look strong! We look weak!” is not careful, informed evaluation. One of the best in the business is being replaced by the guy that was clearly brought in for that purpose. If being a fan is this ####### rough on your feelings find another way to spend your time. It’s pathetic.
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Re: This was a Dabo special.
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Don’t forget give Batson a consulting title at 250k per year
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Re: This was a Dabo special.
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1. Make the easy, lazy hire - promote from within.
2. Defend the S&C program to justify lazy hire.
3. Weave in how successful we’ve been in the past.
I am sure he’s really happy with himself right now.
I totally agree with you, while not as important as a new OC or DC, just the fact that he went with the easy "continuation hire" and Joey Batson disciple disturbs me a little, its not that Love may not be a very good S&C coach , i hope he is............its more about how its all on the line this time for Dabo.......there will be no more chances or excuses if he fails in the next year or two
and his first move is to play it safe, hire from within the bubble, it doesnt give me alot of hope, if i were him i would be blowing the whole model up as far as coaches and scheme.
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Re: This was a Dabo special.
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I mean not every coach at Clemson can hire coaches that get busted in FBI stings.
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More home cooking. Think a fresh approach from an outsider would have been
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Re: This was a Dabo special.
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Too many whiners in the message board room. You all think you understand the job of a strength coach. What a laugh. How many of you have conditioned Olympic athletes? None of you. How many of you are out of shape and your biggest achievement is carrying a twelve pack of beer to your car in the grocery cart?
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Re: This was a Dabo special.
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Judge Keller, Judging again!!! Funny how your pulse has dropped below 80.Seems like many have gotten tired of opion.
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I dont really care about my TNet pulse.
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Nov 12, 2025, 3:57 PM
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I am not here to get approval from strangers on the internet.
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Re: This was a Dabo special.
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Just as many disapprove of the message as the ones that agree with it, but IMHO it speaks the truth about Dabo's habits with replacing coaches within. I'll go as far as saying that he got lucky with the Tony Elliott-Brent Venables OC-DC coaching hires plus their assistance bc it all just seemed to work really well together and that staff won us two national championships while playing in 4 national championship games while staying ranked with a top 10-15 team during the Elliott/Venables time at Clemson, and it seems that it all came unglued with his hires after Tony and Brent moved on to be HC's. After Brent and Tony, his in-house hires have been pretty pisss poor IMHO!!!
Pretty right on Judge IMO!!!
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Nov 10, 2025, 9:48 PM
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So strength and conditioning will be SSDD
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I had hoped Neff told him not to promote from within
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AT THIS TIME. The optics are bad.
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Re: I had hoped Neff told him not to promote from within
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Stop announcing your idiocy.
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Re: I had hoped Neff told him not to promote from within
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Nov 10, 2025, 10:22 PM
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That’s rich coming from you #######. ####
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Re: I had hoped Neff told him not to promote from within
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Nov 10, 2025, 11:38 PM
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You have a diet of big peters?
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Re: I had hoped Neff told him not to promote from within
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My point is that this does not seem a simple as hire within when one looks at his training and non Clemson experience. Looks to me like he was called in to get ready to take over for Batson, maybe Batson want leaving as quickly as it once seemed he would. Love goes out, gets a nice offer just before Batson commits to retiring. It cannot be said he doesn't have coaching experience.
And to be clear, I don't know enough about Love to have formed an opinion but there is justification for the view that goes beyond simple friends and family.
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Re: I had hoped Neff told him not to promote from within
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The clowns on this thread, especially the OP, refuse to recognize that this man was hired 2 years ago to be ready to take this position when it came open, which they probably knew was going to be within a couple of years. That would mean that Dabo had a well thought out plan and they just won’t admit that is possible. The “lazy” thing being done here is to call this an internal hire and make it fit their long running narrative.
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Re: I had hoped Neff told him not to promote from within
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Again, I should not have said the OP. I was referring to the early post in this thread from the resident football program troll.
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If it was a well thought out plan, Dabo should have said so.
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He didn’t, so people are naturally going to question it.
We ARE allowed to question Dabo, as heretical as some here think it is. His track record of hires/promotions recently isn’t exactly stellar.
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Clemson Sports Icon [54046]
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It is logical to conclude that Dabo is pleased with our S&C program
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Nov 11, 2025, 11:26 AM
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and doesn't see any need for significant changes.
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Re: It is logical to conclude that Dabo is pleased with our S&C program
Nov 11, 2025, 12:38 PM
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Now you know what Dabo is thinking??? 😂😂😂
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Re: It is logical to conclude that Dabo is pleased with our S&C program
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But it’s not logical to conclude that hiring a qualified heir apparent with a great resume 2 years ago and then moving him into the post when Batson retires is a plan. Gotcha.
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I dont even care anymore***
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Re: I dont even care anymore***
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Nov 10, 2025, 10:17 PM
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Business as usual it would be nice to have a new approach
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Bout time we fired that coot.***
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CU Guru [1025]
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Is that the guy from The Beach Boys?
Nov 10, 2025, 11:10 PM
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Catawba: PC always played them back in my day. I remember that they had a great NA RB back around 1962. Oxendine. Had a bad knee when PC played them & he reinjured it that night, but was still effective • The new hire looks as if it's a good one. If he's good enough for the Vikings, he should be good enough for us.
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Nov 10, 2025, 11:52 PM
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Does this mean Batson has to turn in his Whistle?
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Nov 11, 2025, 8:15 AM
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Or will his hands become smoooth?
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Nov 11, 2025, 12:04 AM
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Man i have not been overly critical of Dabos hiring up front and been cautiously optimistic more often but this hire is missing the mark. S&C has been putrid for this team for probably going on 12 years. Dabo was able to recruit grown and ready to play players to start, the moment the portal and NIL became a thing the lack of physical development reared its head, especially since the 4 stars and 5 stars that were physically ready stopped coming in droves.
The OL has always been weaker and slower, never see kids come to Clemson and leave more explosive, bigger yes, faster and explosive no. Every season the team starts slow and looks out of shape until the end of October(Barrett Carter said he wasnt in football shape after the Duke opener what 3 years ago?).
This is just a massive miss and let down imo.
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
Nov 11, 2025, 9:48 AM
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And Carter also said it was his own fault that he was not in shape. The players have to buy and in and what they need to do to get in shape. Didn’t put in the work. That was not a Batson issue.
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Nov 11, 2025, 2:16 AM
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Sounds like we have a good one.
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Nov 11, 2025, 2:16 AM
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Sounds like we have a good one.
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Clemson Icon [25432]
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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I have known Joey since HS. He is an amazing person who inspires the young athletes at Clemson. I am sad to see Joey retire but I guarantee you one thing , he gave Clemson everything he had to strengthen and condition the athletes he was responsible for and he is a great example of a man of Faith, Character and Integrity.
Dabo said it best when he gave you a short summary about Coach Batson. You don’t stay around for 29 years if you do not excel at your job.
God Bless you Joey as you move forward.
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Orange Elite [5500]
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Nov 11, 2025, 5:30 AM
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Im sorry but i disagree i see people with 30 years at a job that are horrible, its all about who likes you.
Not saying Batson was not good for Clemson but hes been left behind for at least the last decade. It was time for him to move on for the sake of the program and thats simply reality. He did a fine job but its time to catch back up to the modern S&C programs.
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Nov 11, 2025, 3:11 AM
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Seems like a guy with a lot of good experience including the NFL. Was quietly named as the head S&C coach in waiting to keep him from taking over the same role with the Vikings.
Not sure why people would complain about a hire like this.
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Orange Elite [5500]
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Nov 11, 2025, 5:31 AM
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If he diesnt drastically change the way this team trains in the offseason particular there will be no change with the on field results.
Powerlifting is not football.
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I wish Coach Batson success in his future endeavors, while thanking him
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Nov 11, 2025, 4:06 AM
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for his long service to Clemson.
As I know very little about S&C, this is one of those times reticence is my best option, thus requiring me to defer to Dabo's judgment. On the outset it seems Coach Love is well-qualified for the role, and my simple-minded thinking is that our team's toughness and ferocity on the field is one of the direct responsibilities of our position coaches. Simply put, perhaps there are too many "Aw shucks" on the sidelines and not enough "Get your heads out of your asssses." I dealt with these very issues in the Army, as did other TNetters, no doubt, and I can assure you that enough of the latter will motivate men to scale mountains bare-knuckled. I believe they may be well-conditioned...their minds just aren't right!
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Re: I wish Coach Batson success in his future endeavors, while thanking him
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Nov 11, 2025, 5:35 AM
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Well they(players) have been on record saying they were not well conditioned. Barrett Carter 3 years ago after Duke gashed the tigers on opening week said he wasnt in football shape. It showed and has shown last year the team was gassed after half vs UGA, this year they looked slow and lethargic vs LSU. What kind of S&C program doesnt have their players ready to go by week 1?
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Re: I wish Coach Batson success in his future endeavors, while thanking him
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Of course they were gassed vs Georgia. Georgia was more talented and that will exhaust people. Georgia might have been in the same shape our guys were in or even worse shape. It was a complete mismatch of talent and depth though.
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Love must have a 2 star son we want to put in the secondary. 🤦♂️
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Nov 11, 2025, 8:47 AM
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Just another day at the Swinney Country Club!
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Nov 11, 2025, 7:42 AM
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Taking a wild guess here and think the vast majority of people complaining about this hire have zero evidence of strength or conditioning in their life.
If there are any posters here who actually know about strength conditioning, please state as much when you post. It'll help us all weed out the people that complain while thinking they know everything versus those that have a clue.
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Nov 11, 2025, 8:20 AM
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The OP definitely falls in the “people that complain while thinking they know everything” category. Proves it regularly.
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Nov 11, 2025, 8:51 AM
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Should not have said the OP. I was referring to the early post by the resident football program troll.
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I understand where you're coming from, but people don't need to
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Nov 11, 2025, 9:19 AM
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be experts to make an observation. I've never been a chef but I know when the food quality at my favorite restaurant has gone downhill. (Usually after longtime owners sell out.) I'm not an ace mechanic but I can recognize an odd sound my car has never had before. Etc.
I mean, nobody on this forum is a football expert. If we were, we wouldn't be sitting at the house posting on Tigernet. We'd be checking our account balances in Swiss banks.
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Re: I understand where you're coming from, but people don't need to
Nov 12, 2025, 1:50 PM
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You are right. But when you dont have all the facts, knoweldge or experience.... maybe defer to the expert chef to tell you a good restaurant before you've eaten there or the certified mechanic to diagnose and fix the problem your car is having.
Unless you walk into restuarants and tell the chef how to make the meal or tell the mechanic what part to replace on your car. If so more power to you.
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I don't work for the Weather Channel either but damm it's cold outside.
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National Champion [7719]
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Re: I don't work for the Weather Channel either but damm it's cold outside.
Nov 12, 2025, 2:40 PM
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I too can tell when it is currently cold out. But working at the Weather channel would be helpful in me predicting weather and whether the weatherman is being lazy in their prediction.
Currently cold = current S&C situation
Future weather = future S&C situation.
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Clemson Icon [24848]
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I just saw Jim Cantore in my yard, so you might want to check
Nov 12, 2025, 2:55 PM
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yourself mister. 
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National Champion [7719]
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Re: I just saw Jim Cantore in my yard, so you might want to check
Nov 12, 2025, 2:57 PM
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Hahahaha
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Enough Of The Past Highlight Reels...
The Decline Began In 2022 And Continues And
Yes We Love Coach Swinney But....Making Symbolic Changes Won't Fix Our Problems...
Strong Defense, Strong Running Game And
Game Time Performance...Practice All Americans Don't Win Championships....
Major Disconnect STILL EXISTS Between
Preparation And Performance🌞🌞🌞
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You members of the Lunatic Fringe need to unwad your panties
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What in the blue #### do you know about strength training? Next to nothing.
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Clemson Icon [24848]
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Hey, don't look now but the LF is kicking butt. Basketball team was
Nov 11, 2025, 9:47 AM
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sent home by SW McNeese A&T. Football team... no explanation needed. Baseball, who knows. Thank God for soccer and women's lacrosse.
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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Don't sell me my Twinkies in a different package and tell me they were not baked in 1964.
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I rarely LOL at a post, but that was good.
Nov 11, 2025, 11:11 AM
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
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For some odd, and really odd reason, JK thinks that by trashing Dabo and the football program, it somehow elevates Brad Brownell and the basketball program. I support both and would bever trash one to try an elevate the other. Just moronic.
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
Nov 11, 2025, 12:43 PM
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And been that way for a long time.
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
Nov 11, 2025, 2:58 PM
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Why in the world would Nefg allow this without a thorough search? So troublesome. Dabo needs checks and balances at this point. If this was fully vetted than I stand corrected. But this doesn't feel fully vetted. I'm so sick of the friends and family plan. Done.
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
Nov 11, 2025, 2:59 PM
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Neff
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
Nov 12, 2025, 9:35 AM
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IMO, one of Dabo's biggest problems as our HC is that he will leave the same coaches in place when the team seems to never improve at the positions some of our coaches has been coaching since he has been our HC.
Personally, I believe that a team should show improvement at every position regardless of how good we were at each position the years prior. There is always room for improvement regardless of how good a team is from top to bottom year in and year out it can and should get better...
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Re: TNET: Swinney announces new head strength coach, talks impact of retiring Joey Batson
Nov 12, 2025, 1:46 PM
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Can you imagine being so miserable that you feel the need to question, dismiss and belittle a decision that a HOF'er made even when admitting that you know nothing about the job, the person hired, whats goes into the decision or knowing if there was ever a plan in place?
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I can see that you are a blue pill kind of guy.***
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