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Penn State and the Death Penalty
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Penn State and the Death Penalty


Jul 13, 2012, 9:33 AM

I'm reading about how many people think Penn State's football program should receive the death penalty.

I don't see it. This whole molestation and cover-up thing at PSU was terrible - no doubt about it but it was separate from the actual football program itself - the football program didn't gain a competitive advantage over opponents and it didn't help PSU's recruiting, etc. - also, none of the actual football players were ever involved.

This is a criminal matter at PSU that happened to involve football coaches and school administrators (who are all now gone from PSU). The victims were children and young people, not football recruits or players.

The NCAA's responsibility is to investigate and punish actual sports program infractions. They should not be involved in this situation because it's a criminal matter for the courts to handle.

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Re: Penn State and the Death Penalty


Jul 13, 2012, 9:37 AM

I semi agree. No need to punish those who want to earn an education and play for the school that they used to cheer for as kids. I do think that everyone that was involved needs to be fired and sentenced to prison time.

Not sure how many of you guys or gals are parents on this sight. Could you imagine if your child was taken advantage of by one of the sickos, and NOBODY did anything about it?!?!

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First of all, the courts have done something....


Jul 13, 2012, 9:45 AM

about it in that the guy was found guilty and put in prison. Also, Paterno and the administrators are gone and the administrators may now be facing legal charges.

As for the school itself, it will now be paying millions and millions of dollars in civil legal suits.

Again, this is a legal matter for the courts to handle and address. This is not an actual sports program matter that falls within the NCAA's jurisdiction.

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this has some huge self-inflicted damages in itself


Jul 13, 2012, 9:39 AM

I see PSU football struggling for many years - how badly is this going to impact recruiting, for maybe a generation? What parent will want their kid associated with the stigma of this scandal?

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Their home field "WHITE OUT" is now more so the faces


Jul 13, 2012, 9:48 AM

of the fans after they found out of all of the disgusting things that have taken place.

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Doesn't appear it's hurting recruiting


Jul 13, 2012, 9:56 AM [ in reply to this has some huge self-inflicted damages in itself ]

http://clemson.scout.com/a.z?s=46&p=9&c=8&toinid=688&yr=2013

They're ranked 14th overall by Scout for the 2013 class.

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They're recruiting now has nothing to do with....


Jul 13, 2012, 10:01 AM

what was happening in the past - they now have all-new coaches and administrators.

Again, their recruiting success or lack of success in the past had nothing to do with the BS Sandusky was up to.

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You had better read this letter from Mark Emmert....


Jul 13, 2012, 9:52 AM

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/pdfs/2012/ncaa+statement

As for it not having anything to do with the football program, here is my response:

http://www.tigernet.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=12462062

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I disagree - I've heard several legal experts on TV who say.


Jul 13, 2012, 10:08 AM

just the opposite from the guy with the NCAA.

Again, I think this is a legal matter that the courts are and will continue to handle - PSU will pay extensively.

This was an inside cover-up by certain people (Paterno, the AD, the school president) of a child molester - his behavior was terrible for sure.

How did the actual football program itself benefit from any of this? Why should the actual football program itself be given the death penalty?

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Deer PSU,...


Jul 13, 2012, 10:38 AM

We are happy to announce that we consider your efforts to cover up the long history of child rape to protect the integrity of your football program a success. We will have no part in punishing you for the only punishment we could give that we consider fair is the death penalty and that would damage your university and your conference.

It is with careful consideration to the PSU football program and the innocent fans who should not have to suffer that we stick our heads in the sand and ignore the plight of the little boys that were used as suck toys and sperm dumpsters that we make this decision final.

signed
NCAA

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Re: I disagree - I've heard several legal experts on TV who say.


Jul 13, 2012, 10:49 AM [ in reply to I disagree - I've heard several legal experts on TV who say. ]

How did the football program benefit? For one, they covered this up to avoid "bad publicity" for the football program. That impacts licensing, recruiting, etc which directly affect both the football program (and entire AD) on the field and on their bottom line. Extra money and getting no negative impact on recruiting gives the team a competitive advantage it would not have had if the football program hadn't prevented the news from getting out.

But all that aside, the problem is the culture at Penn State (you could make the argument for that at plenty of universities - Clemson included). If football is so important to them that they are willing to cover up a crime of this magnitude to protect the program, THAT is the problem. If the football program goes 100% unpunished, it does nothing to change the culture that allowed this all to happen. Ideally, Penn State's BoT will take care of this on their own. But if they show that they are still putting football as the first priority, the NCAA needs to step in and act. And if the NCAA is to act AT ALL, the only possible action they can take is the death penalty, as this is the most severe case they've ever had to handle (worse than SMU, Miami, UNC and Ohio State combined).

I'm torn on the death penalty for Penn State, but if the NCAA is forced to act it's their only recourse. I'd much prefer that Penn State shut down their football program for 2 or 3 years - I think that's a happy medium, and shows that PSU gets that they need to reprioritize things.

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Legal experts on TV, lol? Well, in that case***


Jul 13, 2012, 11:08 AM [ in reply to I disagree - I've heard several legal experts on TV who say. ]



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Yeah, PSU and their lobbying efforts. Media for money...***


Jul 13, 2012, 11:17 AM



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They don't deserve to have a Football program


Jul 13, 2012, 11:15 AM

the coaches put football over the lives of childern

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Brad Brownell: more losses than any other coach in school history.


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