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Toledo. James Madison.
Nov 27, 2023, 9:03 AM
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SMU. just unbelievable
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Maybe we should've tried not losing 4 games
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Nov 27, 2023, 9:05 AM
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You also forgot Tulane and Liberty.
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Wonder how those 5 would have done with a diffenet
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Nov 27, 2023, 9:10 AM
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Schedule Like ours
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Ahh yes the old Coot excuse***
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Nov 27, 2023, 9:33 AM
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you must be a coot to think that's an excuse
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Nov 27, 2023, 11:18 AM
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if you think those teams have the same record playing a power five schedule versus the group of 5 schedule then just stay ignorant
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Re: you must be a coot to think that's an excuse
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Nov 27, 2023, 11:23 AM
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They would probably beat Miami,Duke and nc.state...
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Re: you must be a coot to think that's an excuse
Nov 27, 2023, 11:38 AM
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my brother in Christ you may want to visit a doctor to check for mental retardation
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No, but i see a pretty big double standard here
Nov 28, 2023, 11:48 AM
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This is essentially the same thing everyone here freaks out about when an 8-4 SEC team is ranked. Now that it's Clemson it's suddenly justifiable.
If we are talking about pure power ratings, this Clemson team is probably top 15ish even with the broken offense. But polls aren't power ratings and the #1 factor in polls is still how many wins and losses a team has - with an obvious penalty for most G5 teams.
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Re: Maybe we should've tried not losing 4 games
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Nov 27, 2023, 11:32 AM
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Sure. The teams i listed mainly because we wouldn’t be higher than 23 anyway with 4 Ls. but my god, if our schedule consisted of glorified varsity highschoolers then we would be. between them the only remotely competitive team they’ve played was SMU taking on then 18th-ranked oklahoma, and they got blown out of town. the whole thing is a joke. Just compare the AP to FPI
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Re: Toledo. James Madison.
Nov 27, 2023, 9:06 AM
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Would you please expand upon that for 99.9% of us?
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I do believe the OP is grousing about teams that are ranked ahead of us in the
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Nov 27, 2023, 9:11 AM
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AP Pole.
Or, it could just be indigestion.
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You must be an AP voter***
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Nov 27, 2023, 9:35 AM
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Re: Toledo. James Madison.
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Nov 27, 2023, 9:14 AM
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Part of it is that the teams we beat when they were ranked have continued to drop down the poles themselves. UNC for example.
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Re: Toledo. James Madison.
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Nov 27, 2023, 9:30 AM
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It's like that with the AP every year. But you're right, any of the teams mentioned lost handily to the team (s) they played in a p5 contest.
Now if your point is to state how we'd fair against them, we would beat them handily.
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Tulane won the Cotton bowl last year
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Nov 27, 2023, 9:34 AM
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I know that's not one of the teams he specifically mentioned, but some of these G5 teams are pretty legit.
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Our Tigers deserve a top 25 ranking, but
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Nov 27, 2023, 10:41 AM
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Clemson played three … only three … noteworthy teams.
Florida State … lost the tie
North Carolina State … lost
Notre Dame … won
Outside those we lost to a medium Duke team and lost a tie to a medium Miami team.
It’s good to be top25, but our record allows us no room to complain about other teams rank … all we can really say is (grate your teeth) … “Wait until next year”
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Re: Tulane won the Cotton bowl last year
Nov 27, 2023, 11:45 AM
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Tulane’s a pretty good team, but again, they committed sudoku in the second half against their only good opponent on the season
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Re: Toledo. James Madison.
Nov 27, 2023, 11:36 AM
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This is all true, it’s just really frustrating. ultimately we have ourselves to blame for being disrespected, gotta be better on the field if we want a competition strength of schedule. I don’t have to say anything about what would happen if we played these shmucks
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Poles (AP, Coaches, CFP) are based primarily on most deserving
Nov 27, 2023, 11:30 AM
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Not “the best”. Not who would win on a 1-1 match up at a neutral site. Nor if one team beats another earlier in the season they should be ranked higher. This isn’t match play or single elimination.
And for those complaining about bias…no ####. Of course there is bias because it’s opinion. And advanced stats are biased based on how they are programmed.
Yes, was a rhetorical post by op but I was compelled to write this drivel.
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Re: Poles (AP, Coaches, CFP) are based primarily on most deserving
Nov 27, 2023, 11:43 AM
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the problem is that it’s never properly distributed. LSU, for example, has won one of their ranked games and lost the rest. They have a strong strength of schedule but still came up short and won’t sniff a conference champ this year. All in all, very similar to our season, a little better result. And yet, the same polls that “appropriately” punish us for losing four games treat lsu like there’s 11 Jayden Daniels running around on offense
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