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Can we exit for football, but remain ACC for everything else.
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Mar 22, 2024, 11:07 AM
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Seems like precedence has already been set.
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Re: Can we exit for football, but remain ACC for everything else.
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Mar 22, 2024, 11:09 AM
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You're implying we should become an independent, I assume? I'm not sure that's a recipe for success for Clemson, and would most certainly shut us out of the CFP.
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Re: Can we exit for football, but remain ACC for everything else.
Mar 22, 2024, 11:13 AM
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Is there a rule against being in a different conference for football vs all other sports?
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Looks like Notre Dame
Mar 22, 2024, 11:15 AM
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Figured it out. Lol
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Notre Dame Football is independent of conference.***
Mar 22, 2024, 11:16 AM
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Re: To my historical knowledge, that would be unprecedented.
Mar 22, 2024, 11:20 AM
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Why would we have to be independent?
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My best guesses.
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Mar 22, 2024, 11:39 AM
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1. It would be unprecedented. Therefore, a long tedious legal process.
2. Clemson does not have the financial resources or backing to be independent.
3. The conferences would argue over media and distribution rights. Clemson would be a pariah to both conferences.
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Re: My best guesses.
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Mar 22, 2024, 11:42 AM
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4. We ain't ND and don't have that kind of following...
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Or, the Catholic Church's resources.***
Mar 22, 2024, 11:44 AM
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Re: My best guesses.
Mar 22, 2024, 11:45 AM
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Is there a statute or rule against being in different conferences for different sports? Maybe there is, but I don't have a copy of the GOR to see how/if it addresses that scenario.
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Re: My best guesses.
Mar 22, 2024, 12:44 PM
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Give it up
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Re: My best guesses.
Mar 22, 2024, 12:54 PM
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Why does this trigger you?
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TigerNet Elite [70985]
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Because several have answered your questions, multiple times.
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Mar 22, 2024, 3:05 PM
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If it isn't to your liking, try www.google.com with your questions.
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Re: To my historical knowledge, that would be unprecedented.
Mar 22, 2024, 11:54 AM
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If Clemson became independent in FOOTBALL. it would be beneficial. It would free them from the ACC. They wouldn't be bound to any conference, similar to Notre Dame. They have reached the level of national prominence, so the Tigers don't really need the ACC any longer. ND doesn't want to be shackled by a conference, and this is why they won't give in. Florida State was independent, and made the mistake of joining the ACC in the first place, and now they want out. Any independent football or basketball program with a national reputation should stay independent.
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Re: To my historical knowledge, that would be unprecedented.
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Mar 22, 2024, 11:59 AM
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No. We would be crushed financially if we became independent. That will never happen.
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Re: To my historical knowledge, that would be unprecedented.
Mar 22, 2024, 1:27 PM
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Broadcast rights to Clemson (and FSU) football is probably worth $100M/yr. The trick would be finding attractive opponents where the P2 schools are playing 8 or 9 games vs conference opponents. Any school worth it's salt is going to want 7 home games (with a 9 game conference sched, that means every other year, there will be 5 conf away games and only 4 conf home games...in that scenario, the school has to find 3 home opponents, likely of the cupcake persuasion). Long story short, as an independent program, it would be a tough task to find enough quality opponents to command that $100M payout.
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ACC would tell us to pound sand
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Mar 22, 2024, 11:14 AM
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No way they would agree to that proposal.
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Re: ACC would tell us to pound sand
Mar 22, 2024, 11:18 AM
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But they allow Notre Dame to be all sports but football. We all signed the same GOR as NDame, correct? Why do they get special treatnent?
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Re: ACC would tell us to pound sand
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Mar 22, 2024, 11:33 AM
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Notre Dame football is not in another conference
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Re: ACC would tell us to pound sand
Mar 22, 2024, 11:36 AM
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I know that, but could they join BG for football only if they wanted to?
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Thats a lot of questions
Mar 22, 2024, 12:10 PM
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Why? How come? Why not? What’s the reason? 🤦🏻♂️
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National Champion [7446]
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Re: Thats a lot of questions
Mar 22, 2024, 12:32 PM
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I am a little too inquisitive. That's also the reason I didn't do well in Sunday school as a kid.
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Re: Thats a lot of questions
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Mar 22, 2024, 12:46 PM
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She's like one of those little kids that just won't shut up.
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My friends had a solution for that***
Mar 22, 2024, 1:58 PM
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Re: ACC would tell us to pound sand
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Mar 22, 2024, 11:47 AM
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ND is independent in football and therefore, football is not under a GOR. ND would have to pay an exit fee to the ACC in football if they wanted to join another conference but that is it.
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It would have made sense for top 50-60 Power Five football teams to be split
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Mar 22, 2024, 11:17 AM
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into divisions and then all others sports stay where they were. But the cows are out of the barn at this point, and there's no going back.
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Re: Can we exit for football, but remain ACC for everything else.
Mar 22, 2024, 11:51 AM
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No. We need to leave this God-forsaken conference, and when the door cracks open, we need to run for the exit without looking back. Good riddance!
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Re: Can we exit for football, but remain ACC for everything else.
Mar 22, 2024, 11:54 AM
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And to be clear, we will never be an independent, nor should we be. We will have a landing spot. I’m confident that those details are being worked out behind the scenes, but we may have to give it 5 years +/- 2 years. If I’m off, take the over.
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Re: Can we exit for football, but remain ACC for everything else.
Mar 22, 2024, 12:08 PM
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Makes too much sense. Therefore never happen
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Re: Can we exit for football, but remain ACC for everything else.
Mar 22, 2024, 1:56 PM
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For the first time, I hope the Title 9 folks eat their clock.
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Re: Can we exit for football, but remain ACC for everything else.
Mar 22, 2024, 2:11 PM
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That’s a great question. Unfortunately I don’t think that would ever work out. The problem with these mega conferences is that you will have college athletes traveling coast to coast to play games. That’s not so bad when you only have five or six away games in college football but for all the other sports that’s going to be insane. Look at how many games basketball, baseball and softball play each year. Having to travel across the country for those games is going to be extremely expensive and a tremendous burden to the student athlete.
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Re: Can we exit for football, but remain ACC for everything else.
Mar 22, 2024, 3:03 PM
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I believe Kentucky's men's soccer team is in a difference conference. Sun Belt
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