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Orange Blooded [3590]
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One good man with a revolver could have stopped it.
Jun 13, 2016, 2:45 PM
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So what does Obama and Hillary want to do?
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Rock Defender [54]
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Weren't there armed guards at the club?***
Jun 13, 2016, 2:46 PM
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Orange Blooded [4995]
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Re: Weren't there armed guards at the club?***
Jun 13, 2016, 2:53 PM
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Other than stricter gun laws (which I don't disagree with) are there any other actual solutions you (talking to dareal,tbalm, guess I'll mention Clemfan or he'll feel left out) have to dealing with terrorism because all I ever see you do is tell everybody how they're wrong.....
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Rock Defender [54]
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Where did I tell someone they're wrong on dealing with
Jun 13, 2016, 2:55 PM
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terrorism?
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Oculus Spirit [97894]
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There is so little terrorism in China, N. Korea, etc.
Jun 13, 2016, 3:04 PM
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If only we could handle things like them. I'm not sure if there's ever been a terrorist attack in North Korea.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: There is so little terrorism in China, N. Korea, etc.
Jun 13, 2016, 3:06 PM
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Re: Where did I tell someone they're wrong on dealing with
Jun 13, 2016, 3:06 PM
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I want to know your master plan for dealing with it.....
This is a democratic town hall and the milf down in front wants to know how you're going to defeat radical Islamic terrorism so she feels safe when she takes her small children to Disney Land this summer.....
Go....
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Rock Defender [54]
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Well probably through drone strikes, taking out top level
Jun 13, 2016, 3:08 PM
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officials, counter-intelligence, beefing up homeland security, etc. Both sides seem to agree on the solution, but both sides keep saying that the other isn't doing it right.
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Orange Blooded [4995]
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Re: Well probably through drone strikes, taking out top level
Jun 13, 2016, 3:09 PM
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I never hear Bern or Hillary talking about it....it was one of the most important topics at the republican debates but a non issue at the democratic...
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Rock Defender [54]
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Did you watch the debates? Serious question. It came up.
Jun 13, 2016, 3:12 PM
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We're in the shit of it now abroad whether we like it or not. I probably would consider myself non-interventionist, but once we've intervened, we should probably clean up the mess.
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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Now you are talking sense (not that you weren't before).***
Jun 13, 2016, 3:13 PM
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Orange Blooded [4995]
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Re: Did you watch the debates? Serious question. It came up.
Jun 13, 2016, 3:21 PM
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I did watch some of the democratic debates and pretty much all of the republican. I was genuinly interested in what they had to say on terrorism compared to the republicans but never really heard.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Welp, there were no good guys there they all had the ghey
Jun 13, 2016, 2:47 PM
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/s
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All-In [49204]
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or, one good man
Jun 13, 2016, 3:15 PM
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could have shot a half dozen people other than the shooter while the cowered in a corner firing blindly.
Or ten good people could have shot 60 more people as they tried shooting at someone firing in a dark club.
Or twenty good people could have shot 120 more people as they fired at every muzzle flash that occurred within the dark club amongst all the smoke and screaming.
So yes, many other scenarios could have unfolded, Walker Texas Ranger.
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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LOL... scared rabbits.***
Jun 13, 2016, 3:18 PM
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All-In [49204]
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I have a gun...
Jun 13, 2016, 3:46 PM
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I'm a very good shot. I've got 17 round magazines. I'm just not arrogant or stupid enough to think I can hit a guy spraying bullets all over a dark club without shooting anyone else in the process.
I guess you are, Walker Texas Ranger.
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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Well, I know you are a liberal because you've already
Jun 13, 2016, 3:48 PM
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resorted to name calling.
Let me ask you a question. Do shooters target people who they know are armed, or do they go after those they believe are unarmed?
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All-In [49204]
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Wait - who were you calling a scared rabbit?
Jun 13, 2016, 3:49 PM
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You're a liberal too, I guess! Welcome to the club!
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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You are wrong. I don't fear armed men.***
Jun 13, 2016, 3:50 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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I'm sure you'd be cool as a button with armed muslim men
Jun 13, 2016, 3:51 PM
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in a room with you.
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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I was not speaking of the enemy. You assume too much.***
Jun 13, 2016, 3:53 PM
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110%er [9174]
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Last nail, sir....
Jun 18, 2016, 11:07 AM
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Where's the hole in the ground for this coffin?
-Nikola Tesla
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Rock Defender [54]
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That's a bit of a complicated question. The one this weekend
Jun 13, 2016, 3:54 PM
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kinda defies the conventions of a traditional mass shooting (sad that that's an applicable term) probably because it was terrorism. Most mass shooters engage in murder-suicides. Self-preservation is usually not considered, although I understand the argument that they want to do the most damage. Most of them also target places they were familiar with, i.e. their school or place of work. While it may be a gun-free zone, it's hard to tell if that is the reason for them targeting it.
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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Well, how many times have they attacked a police station?***
Jun 13, 2016, 4:07 PM
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Oculus Spirit [81996]
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Uh...you mean people who are trained to shoot under duress?***
Jun 13, 2016, 4:08 PM
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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How about any place where people are known to be armed?***
Jun 13, 2016, 4:16 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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You realize you are citing where one officer shot another?***
Jun 13, 2016, 4:24 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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And they were trained.***
Jun 13, 2016, 4:28 PM
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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And people who carry are not? I can show you some shooters
Jun 13, 2016, 5:14 PM
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that most any cop cannot match.
Let me ask you a question. If you had been in that club, would you rather be armed, or hiding in the rest room when he came through the door?
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Rock Defender [54]
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If I'm still at a bar at 2am, I probably shouldn't be armed.***
Jun 13, 2016, 5:40 PM
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nothin much good happens after 2
Jun 13, 2016, 6:08 PM
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sadly sat night was an extreme example
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Re: I have a gun...
Jun 13, 2016, 4:11 PM
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Do you think you could have brought him down? I could have brought him down without emptying a 17 round clip and I haven't shot a pistol in years. Killing a few would have been a risk I'd have taken because if you were there and you shot me in the process of shooting him I'd have crawled over and demanded you finish him off before the cops got there.
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All-In [40966]
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What is a 17 round clip?***
Jun 13, 2016, 4:21 PM
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I don't thing guys who mimic women packing heat...
Jun 13, 2016, 4:07 PM
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is a good idea either.
I think everybody should be trained and armed.
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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I like it. Like Switzerland.***
Jun 13, 2016, 5:18 PM
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Or one good woman ...
Jun 13, 2016, 5:34 PM
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Jeanne Assam (armed security guard) took out a shooter in 2007 at New life Church in Colorado.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Not to rehash this, but I'm going to rehash this
Jun 14, 2016, 4:05 PM
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Soon after Mr. Mateen first opened fire, he was confronted by an armed security guard who was an off-duty police officer, said John Mina, the Orlando police chief, at a news conference Monday morning. They exchanged gunfire. The security guard was then joined by an unknown number of police officers, the first to arrive on the scene.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/14/us/reconstruct-orlando-pulse-shootings.html
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Rock Defender [54]
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So I guess no one is going to touch this. There was
Jun 15, 2016, 11:25 PM
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"one good guy with a gun"
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Re: One good man with a revolver could have stopped it.
Jun 14, 2016, 10:06 PM
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> So what does Obama and Hillary want to do?
Wow.
Holes in kevlar say hello, John Wayne.
I have tried to be open-minded, I've tried to discuss with empathy, I've tried to refrain from ad hominem, but you are one ignorant, stupid, loudmouthed muthafucka. And a sick one to boot, trying to use this tragedy for some moronic agenda.
You go with your bad self, hero. Just go.
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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OK, pottymouth, what did they do?***
Jun 15, 2016, 10:11 AM
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Re: OK, pottymouth, what did they do?***
Jun 15, 2016, 3:15 PM
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First off, let me apologize. I was shying away from the politicking about this on TV (Trump was in full steam), and still rationalizing. A dear friend lost her son, and I'm trying to empathize while the rhetoric is blaring from any and political opportunist before the bodies are even cold. . .so obviously had a head of steam.
I hope you accept my apology.
Anyway, what do who do? The president? Clinton? Probably grandstanded about how no guns would somehow solve everything, the same way others think more guns would somehow solve everything.
What do I think? I think I'm sad, but also hope the wife who knew his intent is jailed.
That's when this crap will slow down- when people who are nuts and violent start acquiring weapons, making plans, etc., we have a duty to do something if we're aware of said plans.
More guns, less guns. . .not gonna make much difference.
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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No problem. And you are right. Violent people
Jun 15, 2016, 3:42 PM
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will be violent. 3,000 people were killed on 9/11. No guns, just box cutters and airplanes.
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Re: No problem. And you are right. Violent people
Jun 15, 2016, 10:49 PM
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So you guys think that it is a good idea to allow American citizens the right to bring loaded firearms into a place where large amounts of alcohol is being served? If we are being honest, the people going to this party were likely to be drinking amounts of alcohol that would put them over the legal limit.
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