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Tiger Titan [49198]
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A rare morning when the P&R is in agreement. Let's fix that
Aug 27, 2021, 10:11 AM
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Who, if they were to run in 2024, would you like to see on the ticket from both parties and why
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TigerNet Immortal [165073]
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Kid Rock and Fred Durst.
Aug 27, 2021, 10:18 AM
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Cause they like to party.
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Ultimate Tiger [35867]
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Re: Kid Rock and Fred Durst.
Aug 27, 2021, 10:19 AM
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Andrew WK would easily beat Fred Durst in the Party Primary.
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TigerNet HOFer [126086]
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I got
Aug 27, 2021, 10:18 AM
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PUB: Desantis - highly educated, conservative, doesn't have Trump potty mouth DEM: AOC - the match up would be a hoot!
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TigerNet Grandmaster [193641]
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Dolly Parton vs Kanye***
Aug 27, 2021, 10:20 AM
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National Champion [8072]
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Imagine the voter fraud claims when Tennessee turns blue.***
Aug 27, 2021, 1:04 PM
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Tiger Titan [50144]
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DeSantis/Noem vs Cumala/AOC
Aug 27, 2021, 10:21 AM
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The republican starters could relax after the convention.
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Orange Beast [6168]
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Re: DeSantis/Noem vs Cumala/AOC
Aug 27, 2021, 1:14 PM
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what was the question...who do you want to see mudwrestling?
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Ultimate Tiger [35990]
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Dems wont have a choice, they be running kumala***
Aug 27, 2021, 10:23 AM
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Tiger Titan [45724]
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Nice job following instructions.***
Aug 27, 2021, 10:24 AM
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Ultimate Tiger [35990]
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you think I reed posts? Im a loner/looser, I do my own thing***
Aug 27, 2021, 10:50 AM
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Tiger Titan [45724]
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Who would have thought we could find common ground?***
Aug 27, 2021, 1:13 PM
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Tiger Titan [45724]
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I'll throw in a serious answer
Aug 27, 2021, 10:25 AM
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For GOP, Romney or Kasich. For Dems, Buttigieg.
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Paw Warrior [4889]
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Once you've lost a winnable election, there's no coming back
Aug 27, 2021, 10:28 AM
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from that - no to Romney...
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Tiger Titan [45724]
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Richard Nixon says hi.***
Aug 27, 2021, 1:07 PM
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Rival Killer [2979]
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Re: I'll throw in a serious answer
Aug 27, 2021, 10:47 AM
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For GOP, Romney or Kasich. For Dems, Buttigieg.
Jesus that is absolutely terrible
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Tiger Titan [45724]
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I know, because you want Trump extremists.
Aug 27, 2021, 1:07 PM
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Most of America doesn't.
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Rival Killer [2979]
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Re: I know, because you want Trump extremists.
Aug 27, 2021, 1:16 PM
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Most of America doesn't.
No, it's because that would be absolutely awful.
Please define "trump extremist", and then explain who the trump extremists are and what makes them trump extremists.
Thanks.
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Tiger Titan [45724]
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Rival Killer [2979]
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Re: Definition of Trump extremist
Aug 27, 2021, 7:33 PM
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Won't even answer my questions. SMH. I guess you don't know any.
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Gridiron Giant [15920]
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Just a data point per an earlier conversation...
Aug 27, 2021, 10:50 AM
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On Inauguration Day, Mitt Romney will be two months shy of 78. Kasich will be 72.
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Tiger Titan [45724]
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Fair point.
Aug 27, 2021, 1:08 PM
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Thus, I'll revert back to my original "no old dudes over 70" stance.
As I said earlier, I could maybe entertain Nikki. I have a lot of issues with her but I also recognize she exhibited some good leadership in SC.
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Ultimate Tiger [35990]
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Ring of Honor [21225]
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Re: I'll throw in a serious answer
Aug 27, 2021, 11:01 AM
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...and any which way we would wind up with a capable president.
Be fine with any of those guys 'cause honestly they're not that much different. If Buttigieg was slightly less gay he'd be running as a centrist or even center-right candidate because that's where his political instincts are.
I have personally voted for all three in either primaries or elections.
Do you think Buttigieg - who served in Afghanistan - would have gotten pantsed by the Taliban like Biden did? No way, no how. That dude does not miss much.
Do you think Romney would have? Or Kasich? I find it unlikely. Those guys always have competence around them. Amazing what a lost art the simple act of being competent is in these polarized times where being the biggest idiot and often the most controversial and destructive is often a bonus.
Get us back to stolid, competent, and boring, please. That's what Biden promised and couldn't deliver, and what so many of us desperately crave.
And I will not vote for Kamala Harris. Ever. But I seriously doubt she can carry a primary, either, whether she was VP or not. She's a snake, she's toxic, and people do not like or trust her. Justifiably.
I don't think she's president unless it's by veep elevation because Biden couldn't finish a term. I don't see her ever winning an election and the Dems would be stupid to run her. The Dems have been stupid more than a bit, though.
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TigerNet Elite [73574]
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TigerNet Champion [117733]
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Re: How bout Joe Manchin?***
Aug 27, 2021, 12:48 PM
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he is already more powerful than Biden.
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Re: A rare morning when the P&R is in agreement. Let's fix that
Aug 27, 2021, 10:27 AM
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Crenshaw vs. Gabbard
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Rival Killer [2979]
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Re: A rare morning when the P&R is in agreement. Let's fix that
Aug 27, 2021, 10:56 AM
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Desantis vs gabbard. Or desantis vs. Romney
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Orange Beast [6168]
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Re: A rare morning when the P&R is in agreement. Let's fix that
Aug 27, 2021, 1:16 PM
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desantis v gabbard would be very interesting...
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Orange Immortal [61149]
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If I am being completely serious, as the Police once sang,
Aug 27, 2021, 10:32 AM
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there is no political solution.
I have no faith in anyone in either major party. We tried the Ultimate Outsider in DJT and look what that got us.
We need grassroots common sense and unity in our communities, not division at the state and federal level.
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Gridiron Giant [15526]
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Re: If I am being completely serious, as the Police once sang,
Aug 27, 2021, 10:34 AM
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It got us lower taxes, a more secure border, booming economy, and terrorists were scared of us…
Never again!!!
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Orange Immortal [61149]
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also got us uncontrolled COVID, an armed insurgency, and
Aug 27, 2021, 11:08 AM
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a generation of wack-job pols who are trying to be mini-DJTs.
Problem is, there is only one DJT. And he will be too old in 2024.
Ain't happenin'.
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Gridiron Giant [15526]
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Re: also got us uncontrolled COVID, an armed insurgency, and
Aug 27, 2021, 2:25 PM
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DJT also got you vaccines, and COVID is controlled now? How? By bringing it across the Mexican border and bussing it into all of the lower 48? That's controlled? The only ones armed at the Capitol riot were the police. Anymore bs you want me to dispel for you?
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102383]
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Please, show me the political solution to this?
Aug 27, 2021, 11:19 AM
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I'm with APM here. We vote for whoever tells us what we like to hear. No one wants to vote for someone who says "We're BROKE". So you get the chart. Then when someone does something we want to hear, like we're leaving Afghanistan, well, they are attacked, but those who voted for the prior President, from the other party, who said the exact same thing and never DID anything, attack the guy who did, because he didn't do it right? What's the right way to retreat? Just like stopping illegal immigration. Everyone likes to hear that, but I promise you if it were ever actually accomplished, our economy would collapse. Or promises to cut spending? Who wants that? The taxpayers want tax cuts, the dems want more entitlements, so debt never decreases, either way. What's the INCOME tax bracket that fixes our debt? There is none. What's the capital gains tax bracket that would fix it? There is none. There is no tax fix. There is no tax cut that could boost GDP to levels to pay down debt either. Again, no one wants the taxes, or a cut to their subsidies, or handouts. Sp we just spend. And our trade deficit? Everyone says it's bad. But end it, and we crash. Our present greatest geopolitical enemy is one of our largest trading partners.
So we vote for our flavor of sunshine pumper, and no one actually LEADS.
And before anyone dismisses this, here's what I would do if President. The MOST important thing I could do for the country, to fix our problems, would be to beg, plead, grovel, write a book, hold a press conference, or a dozen, promoting an Article V convention of the states. Two amendments, term limits in Congress and a phased in balanced budget amendment. NOTHING more. And even then I expect my biggest job would be to keep the politicians on topic. I'd use Twitter relentlessly promoting this.
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Orange Immortal [61149]
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Notice the effects of going off of the gold standard.
Aug 27, 2021, 11:27 AM
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We're all just living on debt. Big asss house of cards that will one day fall.
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Paw Warrior [4604]
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Re: Please, show me the political solution to this?
Aug 27, 2021, 8:23 PM
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"The Business man" was really bad at handling the nations finances. A complete and total failure for the man who was suppose to fix this. And notice how MAGA acts like this didn't happen. KI always leaves this out of his list of Trump accomplishments.
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Gridiron Giant [15526]
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Re: Please, show me the political solution to this?
Aug 27, 2021, 10:00 PM
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Congress spends the money. Anything else you want me to explain?
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Orange Blooded [4679]
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Re: A rare morning when the P&R is in agreement. Let's fix that
Aug 27, 2021, 10:53 AM
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Trump/ Desantis.
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Gridiron Giant [15920]
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On the Republican side, I'd like to see DeSantis/Crenshaw.
Aug 27, 2021, 11:03 AM
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I would also very much like to see Rand Paul and Nikki Haley run. All four of these bring something substantial to the table in my opinion, although I don't see Crenshaw being the Presidential candidate (nor Rand Paul as the VP candidate). I just looked up a list of "potential candidates" on Wikipedia...not sure where they got this list but a lot of laughers (at least from my perspective)...Marjorie Taylor Greene and Donald Trump Jr...no please no. Rick Scott and Larry Hogan? If they raise $1MM I'll be shocked. Chris Christie is some old tread but darned if the guy can't crush it in a debate...he's sharp...lots of baggage. Same with Ted Cruz...I think he's sharp but huge baggage at this point.
On the Democrat side, I really don't know. They have no one prominent that I would ever want to be in power...maybe Tulsi Gabbard?
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TigerNet Champion [117733]
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Re: A rare morning when the P&R is in agreement. Let's fix that
Aug 27, 2021, 1:00 PM
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Andrew Yang. He always seems to cut himself one-sentence short of saying that we need to put an end to the federal reserve and start looking at money a little bit differently. Resources, labor capacity, and innovation should drive the economy, and not be limited by the money supply or debt that has been artificially constructed.
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Clemson Icon [27040]
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Agree with everything but not sure Yang's the one....
Aug 27, 2021, 1:11 PM
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Still looking...
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Re: A rare morning when the P&R is in agreement. Let's fix that
Aug 27, 2021, 1:20 PM
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Don't know. It feels like there is nobody out there.
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