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Ok, I have a stupid question, prolly cause I am re:water conservation
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All-TigerNet [12188]
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Ok, I have a stupid question, prolly cause I am re:water conservation
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Apr 23, 2024, 10:25 AM
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what's the deal with "conserving water" push ie turning off faucet when brushing teeth, flow reducers in shower heads, etc. I mean I do these things, but does it really save water? I mean, the H2O doesn't disappear when it goes down the drain. I'm assuming the earth is a closed system, that water goes somewhere. I know extra energy, chemicals etc to treat it before it is released back to the wild. Is that the reason? (I know during draught etc when local water reservoirs are low these things can help)
What am I missing?
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Oculus Spirit [79454]
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Probably just one of those things to help smug people feel better
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Apr 23, 2024, 10:28 AM
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about themselves. While you're measuring out water to brush your teeth with, the guy 3 doors down is watering the road with his irrigation system.
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Oculus Spirit [85554]
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Slightly related, this morning I was driving back home and I think I saw
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Apr 23, 2024, 10:28 AM
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a cow fart. There were all these cows in the field, but one cow had steam rising around it's body. Not the utters.
That was cow fart, right?
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How is that related?***
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Apr 23, 2024, 10:29 AM
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DO YOU HATE THE OZONE LAYER?
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Apr 23, 2024, 10:31 AM
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Meat eating humans are causing the downfall of the environment because of methane released in cow farts
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Take it to the P R O - Z O N E***
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Apr 23, 2024, 10:34 AM
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Heisman Winner [138129]
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What they probably mean is "potable water conservation".
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Apr 23, 2024, 10:33 AM
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Treatment plants only have so much capacity to provide clean, usable water for a given geography, so like when you add 10,000 houses because Volvo just moved in, the rest of the area infrastructure doesn't instantly scale.
It does cover the whole water system in some places that experience brutal droughts.
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That's how I feel since I have a well and septic.
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Apr 23, 2024, 10:34 AM
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The water's all just going in a circle.
If I remember correctly from my high school earth science class in 1995, for every gallon we flush/pour down the drain we only get back like 0.9 gallon.
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What else did you learn in your commie indoctrination HS?
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Apr 23, 2024, 10:37 AM
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Re: Ok, I have a stupid question, prolly cause I am re:water conservation
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Apr 23, 2024, 10:36 AM
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It’s a bigger deal out west, but its deflection from the real issue here—trying to grow crops in the desert, and people watering acres of hay for their pet horses they ride once a year. I think Ag uses 75% of new Mexico’s water. It’s a terrible place to grow anything.
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Oculus Spirit [79454]
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When you really boil things down, horse people are at the root of a lot
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Apr 23, 2024, 10:38 AM
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of the issues our country faces.
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"A person is smart, people are dumb" - Agent K***
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Apr 23, 2024, 11:33 AM
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I was surprised to see how many crops are grown in AZ.
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Apr 23, 2024, 10:40 AM
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You can grow pretty much anything out there, if you have the water to do it. But I'd assume 95%+ of that water comes from the Colorado and not precipitation. It works...as long as the Colorado works.
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Playgrounds, in my experience.***
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Apr 23, 2024, 10:44 AM
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Poot.
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Apr 23, 2024, 10:49 AM
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Re: Poot.
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Apr 23, 2024, 10:50 AM
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I've got nothing I can add to that.***
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Apr 23, 2024, 10:52 AM
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School Play?
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Apr 23, 2024, 11:00 AM
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Sunday School?
Doctor's office?
Job interview (unless required for the interview)
Family Reunion
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I also considered family portrait.***
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Apr 23, 2024, 11:01 AM
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Maternity Ward***
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Apr 23, 2024, 11:02 AM
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Oculus Spirit [85554]
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This could have been a Dave's top ten list
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Apr 23, 2024, 11:03 AM
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of Worst Places to grow an ereckshun
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Oculus Spirit [81246]
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2 tabs for Navionics, 1 for time keeping.
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Apr 23, 2024, 11:39 AM
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Is there a "wasted time mapping a course on the lake" charge on your time card s/w?
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Oculus Spirit [85554]
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You just charge
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Apr 23, 2024, 11:43 AM
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"the big one with all the money on it".
The other tab is hours report / shows me who is charging what and how much. Not my timesheet.
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Oculus Spirit [81994]
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Earth as a whole is a closed water system; however, the water ultimately
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Apr 23, 2024, 11:11 AM
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will get into the oceans, and then it's extremely cost prohibitive to produce drinking water.
Ultimately it's about utilities not having the infrastructure of the scaling growth or industries moving in with high demand - so they're trying to squeeze every amount of efficiency they can.
It's the same what electrical utilities did with pushing LED, more efficient appliances, and the like - and now that they've squeezed it all, we have EVs coming into the picture, lol.
The water conservation is a much bigger deal out west where water is significantly more scarce and water rights are absolutely insane out there. Once we figure out an extremely cheap energy source, we can then get drinking water from the ocean, and that'll help.
John Oliver's bit on that is insane, hate that farming can #### over states like it has out there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtxew5XUVbQ
South Park's Streaming Wars was pretty great too and hit the nerve of truth a good bit.
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Seems like with environmental stuff it's always, "What can YOU do?"
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Apr 23, 2024, 11:48 AM
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When YOU are not the problem and it's actually big business and richfucks using all our resources and polluting.
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Oculus Spirit [81994]
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Northrup Grumman has done more damage to the environment
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Apr 23, 2024, 3:14 PM
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than the entire collective of Tigernet users possibly could do themselves. Unless if one of the crazy politics people can get a nuke.
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Oculus Spirit [97823]
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A lot depends on your water source. It it from mountain snowpack?
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Apr 23, 2024, 11:33 AM
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Is it from a river? Is it from a reservoir filled by one of the above? Is it from an underground aquifer? What happens when you have a drought? And then there's the money. My water bill is insane at over $100 a month, every month, and over $200 in the summer watering the grass.
Around here we have very few water worries. Other places, nonsuch. For example, some places get water from aquifers underground. Over-farming in many places causes that aquifer to dry up. There are places out west where farming has caused people to dig ever deeper wells to access water. Other people have old wells going dry because farmers are draining the aquifer for watering crops, and they have to redrill them ever deeper every so often.
Then you have Florida, where I am convinced the water is the reason Floridaman even exists. Florida gets all of its water from an aquifer that's VERY high in sulfur. "Safe" to drink? They say. Tastes like crap though.
Something like 80% of the water or more in the Colorado River basin is diverted for human use. We've all seen the pictures from Lake Mead. But overall, farming and crops present the greatest danger IMO, not how much you use washing your hands, showering, or flushing a toilet.
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Oculus Spirit [85554]
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My water bill has almost doubled in the 10 years I've been here
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Apr 23, 2024, 11:39 AM
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Went from about $13/MO to $23/MO.
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Oculus Spirit [97823]
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Oh, you need to come to Lexington. We get our water from Lake Murray
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Apr 23, 2024, 12:40 PM
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And it's like liquid GOLD. My bill doubled from Columbia to Lexington. Columbia water comes from the river downstream from Lake Murray. We debated drilling a well when we moved in, and I regret not doing that. 12 years in and it would have paid for itself probably 2 times over by now. My mom has a water system that pulls from Lake Murray, as she lives in a lake house. There's a pump in the yard and a buried pipe that goes out into the lake to about 20 feet deep. Pumps water into a pumphouse where it's filtered 4 times, and treated with chlorine and aluminum powder to make it soft. It tests as clean (CLEANER actually) than Lexington water. Probably $50 a year for bleach and aluminum powder, and new filters every 5-10 years. Water tastes fine.
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So I got in a debate with a bunch of librats saying we shut down golf coures.
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Apr 23, 2024, 12:10 PM
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LOFL. Yeah shut down an $84B industry.
Think about the water used. 1, it's non-potable, or 2, it goes in the ground water or 3, it is evaporated and returned as rain..
Woke liberals couldn't understand that. Why are they so stoopid?
Gonna drain pools too?
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Plus, golf course agronomists
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Apr 23, 2024, 12:14 PM
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are actively working on new technologies and new grasses to reduce water intake and use water that is otherwise not useable (e.g. paspalum grass that uses ocean water). Let's drive a stake in all that.
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Oculus Spirit [81994]
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Only people that don't understand where golf course water is coming
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Apr 23, 2024, 2:47 PM
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from, or they're specifically arguing if any courses that use treated water for their irrigation (I'd agree with them).
Plenty of courses on the east coast use non-potable effluent from wastewater plants which is great, and retention ponds with pump houses.
But only a hurrdurr would just turn it lib vs pub thing.
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I think it goes back to well water. My dad
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Apr 23, 2024, 12:17 PM
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always worried about the well or the well pump.
Or even spring fed houses. Just an another way to conserve.
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Likes throwing money away ^^
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Apr 23, 2024, 12:26 PM
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unless you have a well then you run the risk of it going dry.
Ask your account to show you your water bill some time.
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Re: Ok, I have a stupid question, prolly cause I am re:water conservation
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Apr 24, 2024, 1:32 PM
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I've done all the things you mentioned and my water bill didn't change. Just sayin'.
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do you live in California?
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Apr 24, 2024, 2:43 PM
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or Arizona, New Mexico, parts of Nevada?
If no, probably ok.
If yes...
PRO TIP
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