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TNET: Deshaun Watson says he could have started for Clemson basketball
Jan 31, 2019, 10:14 AM
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Tiger Spirit [9216]
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Probably could have - he's a real athlete................
Jan 31, 2019, 10:23 AM
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and given the general skill level of our basketball program no reason to think he couldn't have played.
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LOL, surely you are joking.***
Jan 31, 2019, 10:39 AM
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Re: LOL, surely you are joking.***
Jan 31, 2019, 12:28 PM
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Yes, don't really know if he could have played or not but, then again, would have been interesting to see.
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Orange Blooded [2867]
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Re: LOL, surely you are joking.***
Jan 31, 2019, 5:15 PM
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Not sure why this is seen as such a longshot. I remember Mike Eppley having a solid career as Clemson QB and point guard.
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Re: LOL, surely you are joking.***
Jan 31, 2019, 5:47 PM
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Actually.,,.
My son was pretty good at basketball and played the AAU circuit for a few years. His high school team won state 5a. He got an athletic scholarship at Clemson for track. I’m telling you this to qualify my sons opinion of DW4 as a b-ball player. He played with DW4 many times off season. My son said DW4 was a really great player, in fact a good bit better than my son was. Like Tee does, DW4 played way above the rim. I’d side with DW 4 on this one unless you have first hand info.
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CU Guru [1698]
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You probably have better inside info than most on this board
Jan 31, 2019, 6:15 PM
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i've seen some of DW's high school tape, and sure, he would have to work on some things but he definitely could have played at Clemson... especially 3 years ago
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Tiger Titan [46330]
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I’m not doubting that he is a good basketball player.
Jan 31, 2019, 8:59 PM
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But I don’t think most people here understand the high level of skill needed to play major college basketball. Simply being a great athlete, or even a good basketball player in high school, does not make one an obvious starter on the Clemson basketball team.
But I get it, people saying that a great football player who is also good at basketball could easily play basketball for Clemson furthers the dialogue about how crappy we are at basketball and how our great football players could’ve helped our basketball team by gracing it with their presence.
Just out of curiosity, when is the last time someone suggested that a Clemson basketball player could’ve been a starter on our football team, simply because he is a good athlete and played football in high school?
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Dynasty Maker [3573]
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Re: I’m not doubting that he is a good basketball player.
Feb 1, 2019, 7:29 AM
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I don't know that he'd start, but Elijah sure looks like he could play football.
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CU Guru [1698]
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Rod Hall would not have supplanted Andre Ellington, Rod
Feb 1, 2019, 3:19 PM
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McDowell or Wayne Gallman but if he practiced football with the team, he would have made the roster. Harold Jamison and Devin Gray definitely could have played TE for football teams during their college days...
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Re: LOL, surely you are joking.***
Feb 1, 2019, 9:29 PM
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In his heart of hearts he doesn't mean that concerning Duke. Not a chance.
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i doubt it
Jan 31, 2019, 10:26 AM
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I think the football guys are underrating the fine skills needed for high level D1 basketball. Remember how Nuk Hopkins couldn't get off the bench when he tried to play on the team? And he was a basketball star in high school. It's not just a simple transition of athleticism
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Re: i doubt it
Jan 31, 2019, 10:35 AM
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No way to know. Ellington did it at So Car. DW may have been able as well.
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But he would have not made it into the NBA!***
Jan 31, 2019, 10:39 AM
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what makes you think that? only way you would know that is
Jan 31, 2019, 11:07 AM
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if you watched him play in high school and saw glaring deficiencies. Which maybe you did but someone who is a great athlete and devotes himself wholly to any sport has a chance to do anything.
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Re: what makes you think that? only way you would know that is
Jan 31, 2019, 4:20 PM
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So did he make in the NBA? Yes or no? The rest is BS. My guess is no.
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Orange Blooded [2867]
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Didn't Bruce Ellington play basketball first
Jan 31, 2019, 5:12 PM
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basketball only as a freshman, and then played both his sophomore year. Seems like he entered the NFL draft after his junior year
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CU Guru [1698]
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he played both his freshman year
Jan 31, 2019, 6:18 PM
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he went there knowing that he would play both sports because he loved basketball more, but football was his ticket...
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no he didn't, he could only play basketball his first season
Jan 31, 2019, 6:37 PM
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because he was on a basketball scholie...It keeps football coaches from stashing people on other sports scholarships...typically track
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CU Guru [1698]
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he played 3 years of football, someone mentioned that he
Feb 1, 2019, 3:32 PM
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only played 2 years of football but he did play 3 and I knew he didn't redshirt so good for you knowing all these facts... 
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Julius Peppers on Line 1***
Jan 31, 2019, 10:39 AM
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Clemson Icon [27053]
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Peppers is 6'7
Jan 31, 2019, 10:58 AM
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You have to be a lot more skilled at 6'1 (Watson) to make it.
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Orange Beast [6162]
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Re: Peppers is 6'7
Jan 31, 2019, 3:55 PM
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And don't forget around 280lbs which made him a monster inside. He wasn't that skilled but that big athletic body made him a factor.
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Peppers scored less than 6 points per game at UNC
Jan 31, 2019, 11:18 AM
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He was an incredible athlete, but not a particularly great basketball player.
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Re: Julius Peppers on Line 1***
Jan 31, 2019, 4:24 PM
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Oh heck, put Julius through. I haven't seen him since we ran a "cat house" in Vegas.
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson says he could have started for Clemson basketball
Jan 31, 2019, 10:36 AM
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If DW had put the same work into basketball that he did football there is no doubt in my mind he could have been a starter at Clemson. His ability and his work ethic would get him there. He was built more for basketball than football when he got out of high school.
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Legend [6876]
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Even if he started at Clemson, he would have never been pro.
Jan 31, 2019, 10:41 AM
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But he would have missed out on the millions he is making in the NFL.
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Re: Even if he started at Clemson, he would have never been pro.
Jan 31, 2019, 4:29 PM
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Exactly! He's making millions in the NFL, was a superstar in college football, won the football national championship, and oh goodness, he should have played basketball?? Huh?? Say what? What are some of these people smoking?
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Legend [6876]
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Nuk did play, however neither would have made the pros
Jan 31, 2019, 10:38 AM
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as a basketball player.
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Don’t know if he could have or not -
Jan 31, 2019, 11:13 AM
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.... or not - tremendous athlete!! But - dood - what is this about Dook ?!? smh....
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Re: Don’t know if he could have or not -
Jan 31, 2019, 11:27 AM
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I have never seen him play basketball but I wouldn’t bet against him. He is the kind of person who could be successful at anything he puts his mind to.
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Orange Blooded [2457]
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Re: Don’t know if he could have or not -
Jan 31, 2019, 3:28 PM
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^^ My thoughts exactly.
He said he would never loose to the Chickens. Check.
He said he would win a championship. Check.
He came back from an ACL tear. Check.
He came back from another ACL tear. Check.
The dude has some serious fortitude. Bet on him, not against him.
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Re: Don’t know if he could have or not -
Jan 31, 2019, 5:49 PM
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Holy crap. "Loose". Don't tell anyone I did that.
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Your secret is safe with me ..,.
Jan 31, 2019, 7:26 PM
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..... 8992!! ??
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Re: Don’t know if he could have or not -
Jan 31, 2019, 4:36 PM
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Why would you have to "bet against him?" Maybe ("maybe") he could have been a great soccer player. But second guessing him after a world-class career as a football player, skills that have now made him a sports icon and millionaire. And he should have played basketball?? Hello! Someone need to get back on their medication.
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He could have been the Marion Cash we'd been waiting for***
Jan 31, 2019, 11:32 AM
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Re: He could have been the Marion Cash we'd been waiting for***
Jan 31, 2019, 4:43 PM
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Who is Marion Cash? My god, DeShaun QB'd us to a national championship, and there are neaderthals on here complaining that he didn't play basketball instead. Frankly, if we dropped basketball tomorrow, it wouldn't bother me a bit. We will never be worth a #### in that "sport" and I don't care, never will care.
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NObody on here has said that DW should have played
Jan 31, 2019, 5:30 PM
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basketball... a lot are agreeing that he could have played basketball and played well. by the way, Marion Cash was the point guard on the only Clemson bball team to win the ACC regular season title and make the Sweet 16 until last years team. so, if you don't know who Marion Cash is, I'm sure that you have no clue as to who Mike Eppley is; a PG for Clemson bball and also a starting QB for Clemson FB in the early 80's...
playing both at a high level is not out of the question, as Charlie Ward (Heisman, O'Brien award winner) played PG for FSU and was a 2nd rd pick of the Knicks back in the '90's when the Knicks actually had some good teams. Charlie played pro bball and did not play pro FB despite most 'experts" projecting him to be a great fb player.
as dual sport players go, Tee Higgins would be an asset to the bball team right now, so, being a great fb player is not a hindrance to being great at bball also... there are people who can play multiple sports at the highest levels...
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I don't gamble much, but I'd bet
Jan 31, 2019, 11:37 AM
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Tee Higgins could start for our basketball team today.
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Re: I don't gamble much, but I'd bet
Jan 31, 2019, 11:52 AM
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As much as I love DW4 I'm going with Tee!
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Re: I don't gamble much, but I'd bet
Jan 31, 2019, 4:45 PM
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Pray god,he doesn't go out for basketball. What a futile, total folly!
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CU Guru [1698]
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DW is probably referencing when he was a student
Feb 1, 2019, 2:58 PM
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and not now, currently in 2018-19... so, in 2013 through 2015, Rod Hall is the PG, but DeShaun would be an off guard any way, so his competition would be Jordan Roper, Gabe DeVoe, Austin Ajuwka, Patrick Rooks, Adonis Filer, Devin Coleman, TJ Sapp, Demarcus Harrison, Carson Fields, Tye Hudson... which of those players are going to keep DeShaun off the court or the starting line up?
Reed and Mitchell were ineligible due their transfers in 2015-16 so, they wouldn't have kept DeShaun on the bench...
With that roster, wouldn't you agree that DeShaun working on his game like a bball player would have just as much a chance to play and start on those teams as the full time bball players? I'm not saying it's a given, but I've seen some of his high school film, and with his work ethic, he would have been in the regular rotation with any combination of those players...
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Paw Master [16774]
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No, th e guy I was replying to was talking about Tee
Feb 1, 2019, 9:49 PM
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starting today
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CU Guru [1698]
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I would start Tee over Skara, move Simms to the 4 and
Feb 2, 2019, 12:09 AM
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Thomas to the 5. Skara would be my 6th man to change the pace, give up a few hard fouls in the lane and focus on defense and rebounding. Tee would help pick up the offensive pace and transition offense... with Tee on the floor, they would have the green light to stress the defense by pushing the ball into the offensive end and into the lane to get the lay up, get the foul, or kick out for open jumpers
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Charlie Ward comes to mind ... a clear, but rare example.
Jan 31, 2019, 11:38 AM
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A guy who was actually All-American caliber at both in the modern era.
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Athletic Dir [1109]
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Stop It!
Jan 31, 2019, 1:41 PM
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Highlights please. I seriously doubt it. Most NFL players talk like that. The McCaffrey kid for the panthers said his game was similar to Westbrook's. They are all high on confidence.
DW4 owns the CFB Highway, but stay in your lane.
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Re: Stop It!
Jan 31, 2019, 1:43 PM
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And Tee Higgins would kill DW4 on the court but even he was not recruited by Duke and probably would not start for Clemson himself
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Re: Stop It!
Jan 31, 2019, 4:48 PM
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I thought Tee plays football for Clemson. What's all this loser BB sh##?
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson says he could have started for Clemson basketball
Jan 31, 2019, 3:43 PM
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All-TigerNet [10825]
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even DW4 taking pot shots at the BKB team now huh?
Jan 31, 2019, 3:52 PM
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we gotta get some CROOTS Brad!
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Re: even DW4 taking pot shots at the BKB team now huh?
Jan 31, 2019, 4:53 PM
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Man, you don't have to have a lot on the ball to take "Pot shots" at our BB team. My concern is that all of this uproar over our basketball "team" will sow some kind of discord among our football team, the one that really matters. Drop basketball!
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All-TigerNet [10825]
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don't be ridiculous
Feb 1, 2019, 1:14 PM
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Yea I was kinda joking. Our BKB talent is sub par ??
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Re: TNET: Deshaun Watson says he could have started for Clemson basketball
Feb 1, 2019, 9:30 PM
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After this season I think I could too.
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Maybe, but Hunter Renfrow definitely
Feb 2, 2019, 12:41 AM
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could have. Center if he wanted.
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