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Since some of yall want to go after a sleezy, unethical coach,
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Oculus Spirit [43669]
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Since some of yall want to go after a sleezy, unethical coach,
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Who do you recommend? And is the thought process that you go all in and get the biggest ###### bag you can find? Or just tiptoe in the waters and find someone who’s willing to bend the rules but knows you only straddle the line and not jump all the way over? Are you thinking like a Petrino? I suspect ship has sailed on urban Meyer. Bob Davie? Art Briles? I’ll hang up and listen.
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I think the point is that we have no business having a football program
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and continuing to support it and fund it like an elite program when we are at what sounds like a huge disadvantage.
Whether the system is corrupt and rigged against us, or our coach is unwilling to operate within the rules to make us better, or perhaps a combination of both - if we can’t come close to reaching our goals as a result, what’s the point?
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Re: I think the point is that we have no business having a football program
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I don't think you understood my question. Who would you recommend that would knowingly and unashamedly break the rules? I don't need your philosophy. I'm asking who fits the bill?
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Honest Answer
Nov 19, 2025, 9:24 PM
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lovingit® ... The answer is every head coach but Dabo is using the transfer portal less the military academies. What rules?
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Re: Honest Answer
Nov 20, 2025, 12:15 AM
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SocMan2,
Where you getting factual information that everyone else is using the portal more than Dabo ??? What are you sources ??? Legit sources 🐅🐅🐅
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It's so universal you can google "Universities not using portal" & this pops up
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Nov 20, 2025, 12:45 AM
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AI Overview
Some universities are not using the transfer portal, with the most prominent example being Clemson, whose head coach has a long-standing policy of not using it for recruitment. Some smaller schools or those in Division II may also not use the portal, especially if they are transitioning from other NCAA divisions, notes NCAA.org. The idea of a "portal" can also be misleading, as athletes are not required to use it and can leave a school without entering their name into the system, says this YouTube video.
Reasons some universities may not use the portal:
Coaching philosophy: Some coaches, like Clemson's Dabo Swinney, have stated a preference for high school recruits over portal players, citing their own recruitment and player development processes.
Not "good enough" to play for us: One argument against using the portal is that players who enter it may not be good enough to play for top-tier teams, but are good enough to play for other schools
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Not a binding agreement: A player is not legally bound by any agreement to use the portal. Athletes can simply unenroll from one institution and enroll at another without entering their name in the portal.
Transferring from non-NCAA institutions: If a student-athlete is transferring from a non-NCAA institution, they may not be using the portal. Instead, schools may use the old-school method of transferring a paper-based record to a new school, notes NCAA.org.
What are the implications?
The transfer portal has increased athlete mobility, but it has also decreased a coach's fidelity to their players. Coaches now know that any incoming high school recruit is also portal eligible.
The NCAA transfer portal has been inconsistent with its rules and enforcement, with athletes having more freedom to transfer without penalty.
wueagle86® It's been well documented by most national sports media that besides the military academies, Clemson has used the transfer portal less than any other university. Will Heldt, and now Tristan Smith starting for Wesco, are the only two starters coming from the portal over the last 5 years. Tony Elliott stacked his UVA team with portal transfers this season and saved his job.
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Re: It's so universal you can google "Universities not using portal" & this pops up
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Will check it out tomorrow. Thank for the info.
If have no problem admitting to being wrong if I am.
Have a great rest on the week and up coming weekend.
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Re: It's so universal you can google "Universities not using portal" & this pops up
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ai is merely a condensing, parroting summary of all of the opinions it takes in from all sources online.
If you want to know how to build a workbench or compile a database, perhaps it is useful
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Re: Honest Answer
Nov 20, 2025, 3:33 AM
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Re: I think the point is that we have no business having a football program
Nov 19, 2025, 11:28 PM
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I don’t think you understood the reply. If we hold standards that absolutely none of our opponents hold, and our stance means we can no longer compete on a level footing, then what’s the point? It’s not a question of who should we get to run the program, but a question of what level of football do we need to move to in order to both compete and maintain our high morals.
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AGREED!
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We're under-funding BB by 15-20% more than other schools to give more to FB. In other words, we're giving less to a coach who has adapted and wants to win and more to a coach who doesn't want to do what it takes and is stuck in the past. Just fund the #### out of BB and baseball until we get a FB coach who gets it. We're wasting money having it go to FB IMO.
I get FB is our biggest sport and money-maker, but giving more money FB won't help the product until Dabo changes.
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Re: AGREED!
Nov 19, 2025, 4:19 PM
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I truly don't know the math here. As you've said, Football is the money maker. Even in just a business model, wouldn't you fund that which makes more money. I honestly don't know, if you take out our coaches salary, do we still make more money than the basketball program? If so why wouldn't you do that?
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Re: AGREED!
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The point I'm making is that Dabo isn't going to use the extra financial help to compete with others in the portal like we need, or signing that 5* out of HS who want big money. So taking from BB is hurting that sport, but not necessarily helping FB.
If Dabo won't adapt, then no matter what we give him it won't help. A graphic from this FB season showed us as being 14th in NIL and revenue-sharing direct pay. The program isn't lacking funding, it's Dabo using it properly. Giving him more won't change his philosophy.
So I say give him the status quo, and BB the status quo. Let BB compete on a level playing field and see what they can do.
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Re: AGREED!
Nov 19, 2025, 4:36 PM
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I will say this, despite what others are projecting that I'm saying, I agree with the "If Dabo won't adapt . . ." Now I disagree on what that adaptation may mean. If Dabo makes no meaningful changes this year, and there isn't some legitimate hope then for some change, then he should be gone. And I'll disagree I'm sure again with who those candidates would be
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Re: AGREED!
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Nov 19, 2025, 4:38 PM
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Yeah, if he doesn't make big changes after this year, then he never will. If 5-5 up to this point isn't wakeup call, then nothing will be.
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Re: AGREED!
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Total horse-shit.
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Duke Nil budget 2025 8-10 million
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Clemson - 2.25.
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All of you Portal lovers...
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You act like the reason we are not going to the CFP this year is lack of talent, which would be fixed if we used the Portal. I think the issue might be coaching. I think we have players good enough to compete for championships. What would it have taken to win the games we lost this year? Winning is hard. Stop blaming it all on the Portal. LSU used the Portal a bunch last year --- and coach got fired.
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who's the "sleezy" and "unethical" coach "y'all" wanna "go after"...?***
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He is creating a false dichotomy.
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We are supposed to support Dabo 100%. We are not to disagree with him or question him.
If we don’t choose that option, we are endorsing cheating, lack of ethics, and basically turning our program into the SMU and Miami programs of the 1980s.
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Re: He is creating a false dichotomy.
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I also like the constant assertion that the transfer portal and NIL are absolutely destroying college football and that both apparatus are pure evil, when in reality our fanbase has been brainwashed into believing it. I’m so tired of the “holier than thou “ mentality of our fanbase. We’re not “special.” We’re just out of touch and failing to win games
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Re: Holier than thou mentality ???
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Nov 19, 2025, 3:35 PM
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What ?? How about support doing things the right way.
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OR.......
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don't be so naive that you think Clemson's "done it the right way" all these years.........including our pre portal/NIL run.
get with it........it's a speed limit with no cops.......EVERYONE is speeding (including Clemson).......nobody's enforcing.
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Re: NAIVE ?
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LOL.. ok. That's it. Yep.
Has nothing to do with being naive.... just do the right thing.
Don't overthink it.
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yes Naive.....that's what those are who think Clemson........
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has "done it the right way"
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Clemson Icon [25493]
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Re: He is creating a false dichotomy.
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I am basing my opinions about the harm NIL , RS and the TP are hurting college football which o refer to as Play for Pay football from a few close friends who are either in college football coaching or are in the athletic department, one of those friends is an AD for his School.
Also, economically I do not see how many programs can keep up with large Universities like OSU, Penn State, ND. UGA, all of the Texas programs, and many SEC and some Big 10, Big12 and PAC12 programs who have a lot of many.
Playing in the National Championship game and winning Clemson still lost about $1 million dollars in the playoffs due to overall cost.
The AD made a profit over all of about $1.5 million dollars.
Read Article below. It will help understand Clemson’s struggles to compete in the post-NIL era. It will show how Dabo has increased Clemson’s financial stability. Dabo’ success has improved the AD’s financial stability.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/clemson-football-falls-short-of-national-championship-but-wins-the-game-of-profits/
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Re: He is creating a false dichotomy.
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Wow you're reading alot into this. I never said we are to support Dabo 100%. As is typical for you, you are being disingenous. I am critical of how this year and last few have gone. Posters earlier said that Dabo won't win because he will not "tamper". So who will that we want?
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Re: He is creating a false dichotomy.
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Literally any other winning coach that has a team positioned for the playoffs? Does that answer your question? I’ll just go down the top 10. Ryan Day, Curt Cignetti, Mike Elko, Kirby Smart…that’s an obvious answer to your question? Now tell US, what do you think is a solution?
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Re: He is creating a false dichotomy.
Nov 19, 2025, 3:00 PM
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Let me know when you have an actual suggestion. I don't think any of those would come to Clemson right now.
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No, he is just creating a false dichotomy.
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Nov 19, 2025, 3:09 PM
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We are supposed to not support Dabo 100%. We are not to agree with him or dare to trust him.
If we don’t choose that option, we are luddites, cultists, reactionaries who are unwilling to do what it takes to win again, and are basically turning the program into the Clemson programs of the 90s and 00s.
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Re: He is creating a false dichotomy.
Nov 19, 2025, 9:13 PM
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You’d be especially dumbfounded to read his innumerable posts over the years about why we have to support Brownell because of all our natural disadvantages and that he’s the best we can do without a coach who is going to cheat.
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Re: He is creating a false dichotomy.
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I honestly do not know who to recommend other than Jamie Chadwell at Liberty or Tony Elliott from Virginia. Jamie C is the only consistent proven HC with success at several programs.
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feels that way....that's why I'd like him to list.......
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the posters (y'all) and their "sleezy & unethical" HC choices/preferences.............b/c it doesn't exist.
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Re: feels that way....that's why I'd like him to list.......
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I'm not going to list, but if you peruse the board, just a bit earlier there is a post about how Dabo won't win because he says he won't tamper. Find it in that thread. I'm not going to go through and find every poster and present it to you.
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Ok.....by your definition. What coaches are the "sleezy & unethical" ones?***
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Re: Ok.....by your definition. What coaches are the "sleezy & unethical" ones?***
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I mentioned a few, do you want me to list all of them? That sounds exhausting.
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Valley Legend [12828]
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k..since that list seems too large for you...how about the all the unsleezy ones***
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Re: k..since that list seems too large for you...how about the all the unsleezy ones***
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I already listed. Do you really think I'm going to write out a list of 20 or 50 coaches for you? I asked if you had some you'd like to suggest.
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I'm trying to get a grasp on what you consider sleezy and unethical.......
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b/c if you think Clemson's pre portal/NIL run was done without $$players$$ then you're kidding yourself.
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Nope, it was built on a love for faith, family, and football
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coupled with players and their mommas being unable to resist Dabo’s sales pitch.
LOL
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Re: So that's all fake, right ?
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I have an honest question..... and you never answer questions like this... but honestly it makes me feel better.
Just what in the #### is wrong with you ?
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How am I supposed to answer that?***
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Re: Oh......and think REAL hard before you answer........
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I never said that Clemson was perfect. You may wish to reread, or move on.
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oh, so are there "levels" of sleeziness you're willing to accept?***
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Re: oh, so are there "levels" of sleeziness you're willing to accept?***
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Youre not as good at this as you think you are.
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I'm actually better***
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Re: He is creating a false dichotomy.
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^^^ What he said 100% ^^
Maybe 3 or 4 posters have posted we need to move on. My question to you Judge, how is Brad, and tbh, every other coach at Clemson, able to color within the lines and be successful recruiting from the portal. 🤔
And before anyone smashes Brownell on trophies, let's take Coach Noonan who has two nattys in this whacky world since 2020.
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Re: He is creating a false dichotomy.
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Or maybe the Clemson of the late 70s and early 80s? And don’t forget all the Newspring allegations during our run recently. I don’t believe there are any programs pure as the driven snow.
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Re: ... or worse, become our hoops team
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... honestly, you post the dumbest crap.
So glad Dabo made you so butt-hurt long ago. Brought out your true colors and character, or lack thereof.
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Re: Since some of yall want to go after a sleezy, unethical coach,
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You do realize that every other big name coach in the country is cutting players, tampering, and throwing top dollar at NIL and the portal, right? Is Clemson just “holier than though?” To answer your question (these are not coaches I think WOULD come but ones I would WANT TO): Dan Lanning, Lane Kiffin, Curt Cignetti, among others. You will try and respond by saying “they haven’t won anything big!” which I would counter with by saying what on earth has Dabo won since 2020? They’re in the playoff hunt and we’re looking to make a bowl game. What’s your solution to this problem? If your response is “trust Dabo” than you’re a fool
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Re: Since some of yall want to go after a sleezy, unethical coach,
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Thank you for at least answering the question. I could have done without all the other, but I did find your list of names in there. Thank you.
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Re: Since some of yall want to go after a sleezy, unethical coach,
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What point are you trying to make with this post? Do you not think that we should get a coach that is willing and able to create a winning program? Do you think that can be done without tampering?
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Re: Since some of yall want to go after a sleezy, unethical coach,
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Just a coach that takes advantage of an opportunity to field a competitive physical team. A coach that surrounds himself with coaches that are experienced and new ideas
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Re: Since some of yall want to go after a sleezy, unethical coach,
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What a wild concept. You should be banned from
all Clemson games for not being pumped at our epic wins over Troy, UNC and BC while losing to four unranked teams at home this year. You just don’t understand the paw journey. This isn’t about winning football — it’s about old ol’ fashioned loyalty!
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Nobody said that. Sorry***
Nov 19, 2025, 2:57 PM
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Re: Nobody said that. Sorry***
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OK but they did. But its ok, really. Thanks for participating in this discussion.
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Paw Master [16929]
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Brent Venables had the 12th ranked portal class last year is he sleazy?***
Nov 19, 2025, 3:03 PM
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Re: Brent Venables had the 12th ranked portal class last year is he sleazy?***
Nov 19, 2025, 3:05 PM
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On the surface it doesn't seem so. But unlike you, I don't know all the goings on and Oklahoma to tell you whether he's tampering or not.
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Hard to see BV coloring outside the lines too much.
Nov 19, 2025, 3:14 PM
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He's a pretty smooth operator who probably knows where the soft spots are and isn't afraid to push on them, but I don't see OU pulling a Tennessee and shoving McDonald's bags full of cash in player's hands.
Not that doing that is necessary anymore anyway with NIL.
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Re: Hard to see BV coloring outside the lines too much.
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Nov 19, 2025, 3:17 PM
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Hate to break it to you but OU wasn’t getting John Mateer without tampering. Venables is absolutely doing that and it’s paying off majorly right now
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Re: Hard to see BV coloring outside the lines too much.
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Nov 19, 2025, 3:26 PM
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Good to know, I don't have ins at Oklahoma. It's always nice to get inside information.
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Paw Master [16929]
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Seriously dude OU hired the WSU OC on 12/2, Mateer, also from WSU, entered the
Nov 19, 2025, 3:39 PM
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Portal on 12/16 and signed with OU on 12/18. If you honestly don’t believe that OU had contact with him before he was in the portal then I don’t what else to say to you.
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Oculus Spirit [43669]
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Re: Seriously dude OU hired the WSU OC on 12/2, Mateer, also from WSU, entered the
Nov 19, 2025, 3:45 PM
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I'm not here to defend how OU runs their program, or to ##### about it. But congratulations if you're correct.
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What you're here to say is that every coach who does it differently from Dabo
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Nov 19, 2025, 3:51 PM
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Is sleazy and unethical. We ALL know that Coach V is an honorable coach; therefore your assumption is false.
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Oculus Spirit [43669]
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Re: What you're here to say is that every coach who does it differently from Dabo
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Wow, your reading comprehension is quite poor. Nowhere did I say that. In no way do I think Dabo is the only way. I do think Coach V is a good man. I also can't verify that he tampered. Since logic and reading comprehension don't really seem to be a part of your shtick, I am having a hard time relating to you.
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Paw Master [16929]
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Dont back peddle now. Clearly the only reason you started this thread is to
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Call out anyone who finds fault with Dabo’s philosophy of how to manage the portal. Anyone who is alarmed that Dabo won’t use the portal to cycle out underperforming players, or play the same early contact game that EVERYONE is playing, must want an absolute criminal to be our coach.
Don ‘t try to pretend like that wasn’t your intent.
There is an extremely wide spectrum between Dabo and Art Briles; you think anyone who disagrees with Dabo wants a complete hoodlum. Brent Venables is the perfect example of a high character coach, who is doing some of the things Dabo opposes, and is successful doing them. All you’re doing now is deflecting because there is no disputing it.
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Re: Dont back peddle now. Clearly the only reason you started this thread is to
Nov 19, 2025, 4:18 PM
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You may have never had marriage counselling. Fortunately, I've not needed it. But anytime someone says all or nothing or the like tends to be wrong. I'm not back peddling as I've never changed what I'm saying. It's hard to argue with someone who is transferring your thoughts of what you think I said or what you wished I would have said because you had a great argument to whatever that is. Dabo's system is broke and he needs to fix it. I am not ready to fire him. And if/when we do, I'm not going after some sleazy sob to do it. I like BV. I think he's unlikely to get hired away from Oklahoma now to come back to CLemson so I think your reliance on that argument is mostly irrelevant. I'm not pretending anything because that was not my intent. You either don't have much emotional intelligence or are flat out an idiot. I doubt that you are an idiot. And please carry on knowing my intent.
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Since some of yall want to go after a sleezy, unethical coach
Nov 19, 2025, 4:35 PM
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That’s a pretty confrontational way to start a thread. Does that illustrate a high level of emotional intelligence?
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Re: Brent Venables had the 12th ranked portal class last year is he sleazy?***
Nov 19, 2025, 3:43 PM
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You seem angry. I got my information from an article that listed sleazy coaches and specific things they've done. If you disagree with one of the coaches I mentioned, then feel free to let me know and defend. I specifically did not say anything about Kirby Smart. So I don't understand you wadded panties, but to each his own.
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Paw Master [16929]
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OU had 34 guys transfer out in the most recent portal 14 went to a lower level
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school. Hmm that almost seems like Coach V “cut” some guys who couldn’t play well enough; that’s something that a principled coach like Dabo would never do
21 Guys came into the program through the portal as well. John Mateer the starting QB was in the portal for 1 full day before he committed to OU. Jayden Ott one day in the portal, Tate Sandell one day; man those OU coaches work fast since we know they didn’t have any contact with any of those guys til they were officially in the portal
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You left Jim Tressel off the list...
Nov 19, 2025, 3:14 PM
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although me may be content with his current role in the political arena.
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Re: You left Jim Tressel off the list...
Nov 19, 2025, 3:26 PM
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Thank you for contributing. You are one of the few who can read and I truly appreciate it.
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Re: Since some of yall want to go after a sleezy, unethical coach,
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We just want our current one to get in the dirt a little bit with the Portal. You know "Do unto others as they do unto you".
All is fair in war in the current football climate whether you are a Sleeze Ball or a Holy Roller.
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That's a hyperbole...
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You can play by the modern rules and still be ethical and moral. Dabo is playing it as if he's holier than though. Doing what needs to be done doesn't go against the rules, it goes against what he thinks the rules SHOULD be. I agree with not tampering, but he can do the following:
-pay a Fr in hopes he's that good
-continue to recruit a position once a kid has committed bc that commitment means nothing until he signs
-cut a player who isn't performing whenever they're getting paid by the university through revenue sharing and required NIL before they stepped on the field
None of those thing are sleazy or unethical. It's the modern landscape. Not ideal, but it's where we are. He need to put his stuff aside for what's best for the program.
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Re: Since some of yall want to go after a sleezy, unethical coach,
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Thankfully only Neff and President Clements get votes and Dabo is not going anywhere.
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Re: Since some of yall want to go after a sleezy, unethical coach,
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Nov 19, 2025, 4:48 PM
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I just want our non sleezy, ethical coach to get with times.
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Another day, another sycophantic straw man post. Yawn.***
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Re: Since some of yall want to go after a sleezy, unethical coach,
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Nov 19, 2025, 9:12 PM
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You have a false perception that doing things the way modern CFB demands is always “sleezy”.
Tony Elliot and Brent Venables both look actually promising. Tony being more likely to leave his program for Clemson.
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There are still rules in CFB ?
Nov 19, 2025, 9:30 PM
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I need to cancel my subscription to NCAA Football Today.
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