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Rival Killer [2962]
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Deebo Samuel. This past year I heard Jeff Scott say
Dec 3, 2018, 6:36 PM
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“Once we get an in home visit, we know within the first five minutes whether or not this is the kind of guy that can fit in with our program. Believe you me, we have walked away from some really great athletes.” Check out some of Georgia’s and Auburn’s recruits and former players...thugs. Don’t know whether we offered Deebo or not, but if we did, and he came to Clemson, I guarantee he would have ended up playing all games remaining. Think of Deshawn and Sammy. Look at what they risked playing two more college games.
Our coaching staff knows how to evaluate players...talent and character.
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Re: Deebo Samuel. This past year I heard Jeff Scott say
Dec 3, 2018, 6:41 PM
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I don’t know the kid but I know the coots so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. It’s gotta be hard to put forth effort for that dumpster fire.
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You are kidding yourself if you think that a Clemson player
Dec 3, 2018, 6:44 PM
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wouldn't sit out a meaningless bowl game were they in his shoes.
It says nothing of his character.
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Re: You are kidding yourself if you think that a Clemson player
Dec 3, 2018, 6:44 PM
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Agree 100%
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Re: You are kidding yourself if you think that a Clemson player
Dec 3, 2018, 6:51 PM
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I agree, id hope Coach Swinney would tell a future 1st or 2nd Rd guy he should sit if we had a meaningless bowl(which I don't forsee anytime soon). The low tier bowl games are good for getting younger players expierence and evaluating next year's team Imo. It's in all party's best interest to not risk a player to be drafted high. It helps recruiting when you get guys drafted high and obviously it's good for the player
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Re: You are kidding yourself if you think that a Clemson player
Dec 3, 2018, 6:59 PM
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I bet you couldn’t get Christian wilikins or Hunter Renfrow to sit a game I don’t care where are when we are playing
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Re: You are kidding yourself if you think that a Clemson player
Dec 3, 2018, 9:42 PM
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Correct, Hunter wouldn't sit out as he doesn't have a high draft grade.
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Re: You are kidding yourself if you think that a Clemson player
Dec 4, 2018, 8:41 AM
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Neither does Deebo and Wilkins does. What's your point
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Re: You are kidding yourself if you think that a Clemson player
Dec 4, 2018, 3:54 PM
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I want to agree with you but I'd like to point out that a few years ago, we had a couple of defensive players who hardly played all season. Dogged it so they wouldn't get hurt.
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this just started with McCaffrey and Fournette etc after
Dec 4, 2018, 10:39 AM
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the last lower tier bowl we played in-- we've been in the playoffs since. We would have a number of players(not all) that would sit out just like any other school.
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Re: You are kidding yourself if you think that a Clemson player
Dec 3, 2018, 6:59 PM
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Well it definitely does say something about their character. If they don't play, it doesn't mean that it reflects negatively on their character, but if they do play I think it definitely says something positive about their character. I would like to think I would choose to play, but there are a lot of factors that we may not be privy to that prompts any decision like that! Samuel probably made the best choice for himself.
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Re: Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t recall
Dec 3, 2018, 7:04 PM
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This is a new phenomena. That isn't really a fair comparison.
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Oculus Spirit [41697]
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Ahhhh....the Me Me Me Meeeee generation***
Dec 3, 2018, 7:07 PM
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Re: Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t recall
Dec 3, 2018, 7:19 PM
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The West and Bowden years players didn’t set out like they do today.Different culture totally back then.
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Uhh that was my point
Dec 3, 2018, 7:27 PM
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Re: Well
Dec 3, 2018, 9:39 PM
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He was definitely making allot of mistakes that is for sure.
Now I do remember one time he sure as heck did not quit. That was when he came out of no where to run down the Ville to save that game.
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Re: Deebo Samuel. This past year I heard Jeff Scott say
Dec 3, 2018, 6:44 PM
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Sammy never played two extra games. He played the Orange Bowl and then left early. The playoffs weren't even around when he was in college
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Re: Deebo Samuel. This past year I heard Jeff Scott say
Dec 3, 2018, 6:48 PM
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Deshaun and Sammy, we have 1st and 2nd round guys all over defense and some on offense. These guys wasn’t scared of getting hurt. He!! They signed up for another year!!
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We also play for championships, not the Belk Bowl***
Dec 4, 2018, 8:50 AM
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Re: Deebo Samuel. This past year I heard Jeff Scott say
Dec 3, 2018, 6:51 PM
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Dabo had to make Watson leave, he was seriously considering coming back
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110%er [3636]
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Re: Deebo Samuel. This past year I heard Jeff Scott say
Dec 3, 2018, 7:24 PM
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Dabo had to make Watson leave, he was seriously considering coming back
That’s the first time I’ve heard that. Did Dabo admit this at some point in the past year?
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not a fan of the use of the word "thug"***
Dec 3, 2018, 6:54 PM
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Re: You anti-Indian?
Dec 4, 2018, 7:43 AM
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You act like Joy Behar. Knock out the virtue signaling.
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Re: Deebo Samuel. This past year I heard Jeff Scott say
Dec 3, 2018, 6:56 PM
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Your talking about BCS bowls, Playoff Games, and National Title games vs the Belk Bowl
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Re: Deebo Samuel. This past year I heard Jeff Scott say
Dec 3, 2018, 6:58 PM
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And a guy who's been hurt a lot and just watched the other best player on that offense break his leg during garbage time.
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Re: Deebo Samuel. This past year I heard Jeff Scott say
Dec 3, 2018, 7:03 PM
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Your un-drafted team mates battled with you so that you could have this opportunity. It’s extremely selfish to turn your back on them. It is a privilege to go to battle with them one last time. Don’t turn your back on them when they need you the most.
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Paw Master [16947]
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Deebo got them
Dec 3, 2018, 7:08 PM
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To a bowl game. He's been injured a lot. I'd say he gave all.
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Game Changer [1915]
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Re: Deebo Samuel. This past year I heard Jeff Scott say
Dec 3, 2018, 7:24 PM
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Debo is a great young man. Scar was his only major D1 offer, which baffled me. I watched him play in high school and he was a no brainer 4/5 star player. We had a great receiver class that year so I can understand why we didn't offer but I'm surprised he didn't have other offers. If Scar hadn't offered at the last minute I believe he was going to App State.
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Orange Blooded [2877]
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Re: Deebo Samuel. This past year I heard Jeff Scott say
Dec 3, 2018, 7:31 PM
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Screw the Belk bowl
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Re: Deebo Samuel. This past year I heard Jeff Scott say
Dec 3, 2018, 7:43 PM
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If he were to get injured again he likely wouldn't get drafted. That's a pretty big hit on your career all to play in the Josh Bowl.
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Does everyone just sniff their own fats on here?
Dec 3, 2018, 8:26 PM
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Not everything is black and white, good or bad.
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Does everyone just sniff their own fats on here?
Dec 3, 2018, 8:26 PM
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Not everything is black and white, good or bad.
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Re: Deebo Samuel. This past year I heard Jeff Scott say
Dec 3, 2018, 9:36 PM
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Not playing in the game says nothing to his character. I wouldn't play in a meaningless bowl either if I were him. Especially with his injury history.
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Disagree but doubt we ever find out. Hopefully,
Dec 4, 2018, 7:53 AM
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I’ll be dead before we play in a Belk Bowl again.
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No, CJ Spiller and our defensive line returned for their...
Dec 4, 2018, 7:58 AM
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final year of eligibility. That would be the better example. CJ actually dropped in the pecking order and I'd imagine had a couple of our linemen gone last year their draft stock wouldn't have been in competition with their team mates.
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Re: Deebo Samuel. This past year I heard Jeff Scott say
Dec 4, 2018, 8:01 AM
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The young man already had a pretty serious injury. The bowl is meaningless. The only question he should ask advisors.... does it hurt my draftgrade?
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Re: Deebo Samuel. This past year I heard Jeff Scott say
Dec 4, 2018, 8:01 AM
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The young man already had a pretty serious injury. The bowl is meaningless. The only question he should ask advisors.... does it hurt my draftgrade?
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Re: Deebo Samuel. This past year I heard Jeff Scott say
Dec 4, 2018, 8:56 AM
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Ask not what you can do for your team but what your team can do for you.
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Re: Deebo Samuel. This past year I heard Jeff Scott say
Dec 4, 2018, 9:02 AM
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I know a guy close to the Chapman football program and the academic side as well. Deebo's grades were so bad that noone ever thought he'd qualify so he was not recruited seriously by anyone. most classes filled and of course the deCOOTments took place. He "miraculously" qualified at the last second and USuCk scooped him up. Most people didn't even know he existed
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I guess that's plausible.. his offer list was pretty sparse
Dec 4, 2018, 12:15 PM
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Maryland, NC State, UNC, SC, and Vandy were his only P5 offers.
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So DW and SW didn't leave early?***
Dec 4, 2018, 11:56 AM
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Campus Hero [14054]
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It's going to be interesting to see how everyone here reacts
Dec 4, 2018, 12:11 PM
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whenever our playoff run finally ends and 1 (or more) of our players announces that they are skipping the bowl game to focus on the draft. It IS going to happen, it's just a matter of time.
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Re: It's going to be interesting to see how everyone here reacts
Dec 4, 2018, 12:58 PM
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To me, that will ALWAYS be an individual decision, with a whole lot of factors weighing in. Players with pro potential have to start looking at the business side of things at some point.
1) Is the bowl game high profile enough to help players exposure.
2) Does it have potential to increase his draft stock with a good performance.
3) How healthy is the player going into the bowl game.
4) What is the likelihood of injury? (For instance, if you are a QB that has been running for your life all year, stay home!
5) If you are already rated 1st round, and there is nothing to really play for, why risk it?
This will not be popular with some, but makes sense to others.
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