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where the senate is out of town but won't go into recess to prevent recess appointments is used to block the confirmation process.

I don't know why Trump is saying they must commit to recess appointments instead of saying 'go into recess when you aren't in session' but I think that is the gist of it.

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Recess appointments were once controversial, last-ditch efforts for presidents to install their nominees after facing long confirmation odds in the Senate. President George W. Bush appointed John Bolton as US ambassador to the United Nations via a recess appointment, for example, as it was unlikely he would have made it through the Senate.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, the Democrat leading the Senate under Bush, then decided to make it so that the chamber simply never recessed long enough for such an appointment to be made. When senators left town, the Senate held a “pro forma” session to prevent any recess appointments.

This was continued under then-Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and then-President Barack Obama — a clash that made it to the Supreme Court. And after the court ruled in favor of the Senate’s powers, the pro forma sessions continue today.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/10/politics/trump-senate-recess-appointments-gop-leader/index.html

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From Vox of all places... Recess appointments became a game when GW Bush

Nov 11, 2024, 3:43 PM

was unable to get a bunch of his appointments through the Senate and started using the Recess Appointments Clause (Article II, Section 2, Clause 3) of the Constitution. The Democrats didn't like it so they "one upped" Bush by just not formally recessing the Senate.

In a game of turn about is fair play - Republicans played the same Senate is not in recess game on President Obama in order to prevent him from making some recess appointments that Republicans did not like. Eventually Obama got tired of playing this game and made some appointments during one of these Senate 'non-recess/pro-forma' periods. It wall went to court with the Supreme Court - in a 9-0 ruling - declaring the appointments were indeed unconstitutional.

https://www.vox.com/2014/6/26/5843366/recess-appointments-supreme-court

During Trump's first administration - the Senate played their typical DC reindeer games and greatly delayed a shidton of Trump's appointments. The backlog of his appointments got to the point of ridiculous - some taking 3 years to be voted on. In order to avoid this whole thing a second time - Trump wants the option to use his Constitutional Recess Appointments authorities. However, in order to use those Constitutional authorities - the SCOTUS has already ruled the Senate must, in fact, be in recess. That is why Trump is demanding any Republican Senate Majority leader clarify their stance on this very issue of 'recess' right now.

This is all part of the game - Presidents from both sides have used recess appointments to get people that might not otherwise be appointed, expedited, or immediately in position. IMO - both sides of the argument are playing reindeer games: the President using recess appointments to bypass the Senate approval process for controversial appointments; the Senate opposition intentionally slowing down the appointments process to a trickle in order to hamstring a Presidential administration; AND the Senate refusing to go into recess in order to deny a President the ability to make recess appointments.

Neither side is righteous in their motives but as long as we follow the Constitution so be it.

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Why do you think he wants to do recess appointments?

How about you just tell me?***

Pro-forma senate sessions

It's an unnecessary demand.***

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reconciliation is not applicable to appointments since

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YES

How would you feel if Obama pressed for the same thing?***

Obamas appointments weren't blocked.***

Re: Obamas appointments weren't blocked.***

Right? GD he's stupid***

When did they make a supreme court nominee a cabinet member***

Was this a typo?***

oh a typo and non-sequitur

Merrick Garland was never nominated and blocked as a cabinet member***

good job Neal, now what I said still pertains to the thread:

And this is where Tom runs away from the thread.***

still here bruh ;)***

Specificity is important

This topic is obviously not about the Supreme Court***

Re: This topic is obviously not about the Supreme Court***

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don't complain to us, you voted for this circus***

You would have squealed if Biden attempted that.***

How surprising...***

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You know how to avoid recess appointments?

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What they did before

All of the MAGA deplorables will happily support this.***

How many of Trumps cabinet picks

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Musical chairs.

From Vox of all places... Recess appointments became a game when GW Bush

I think what's frustrating about all that to the average American voter...

No argument from me on that... It's typical DC Swamp BS behavior from all sides

Re: From Vox of all places... Recess appointments became a game when GW Bush

Looking at the recess appointment numbers of past Presidents

Agree with the OP....

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