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All-American [564]
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NIL Discussion
Jan 12, 2023, 8:50 AM
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NIL isn't going anywhere. The only thing that can be done is for states or fed to pass a law. I don't think there's a state dumb enough to be the first to restrict it. I sure hope SC isn't. And I'm not sure this is an issue I want Congress focusing time and resources on. For one, they'd surely screw it up. Secondly, lets figure out inflation, immigration, and what our endgame in Ukraine is. Not NIL.
Heard a guy on Walt's show last night who was involved in this NIL stuff with the NCAA. He said IPTAY donations fell 15% in 2021 b/c boosters are funneling money from IPTAY to these collectives. So something is definitely going to change. These schools aren't just going to lose money like that.
So, how do we manage it? Personally, I think the only way is to make players employees of the ADs. I know there's a whole bag of worms with that in regards to amateur status. But something has to change. If they're employees, non-competes could restrict transfers. They get salaries based on performance. The NCAA would be able to cap each school. And all these little appearances and signing events would be organized by the schools, and funds go to the school. Thoughts?
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The NFL should eliminate its 3 year removed rule.
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Jan 12, 2023, 9:34 AM
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100% of college football is affected by <~2%? 98% are there for an education. College should cater to the 98, let the NFL worry about the 2.
Congress has a far better chance to manage NIL, than they do Immigration. Low hanging fruit is a win, the Legislative Branch should start stacking some of those.
I'll be just as happy leaving the chit-show for ever, left the NFL after 2007 and haven't missed a thing.
Oh, and thanks coot.
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All-American [564]
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Re: The NFL should eliminate its 3 year removed rule.
Jan 12, 2023, 9:55 AM
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That's not going to happen. Too much risk that these kids aren't physically ready. Easier to do in basketball and baseball.
Your confidence in Congress is higher than mine. I don't know if there's a such thing as low hanging fruit anymore. Most of the time when they agree on something, the taxpayer ends up getting screwed.
We could focus all of our attention on HS football, then ruin it. LOL
No prob, tater.
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That's poop; NFL rule causes much, if not most of the issue.
Jan 12, 2023, 10:21 AM
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NFL already has practice squads and the ability to create games based off of it, even should they decide on mixed squads.
There is no good reason the NFL should continue to be allowed to force all these decisions downward, creating a Jr. league at the college level, while sharing zero of the responsibility.
Baseball and Basketball have professional developmental leagues all across the globe now.
The states took all of a $2 whor minute to open Pandora and have the education of our yutes as the feels-good wrench needed to make the right and needed changes.
Employees? That's far more of a cluster fug than managing what's currently in place. There are already ~thousands of kids in the portal that have packed their bags, then taken their education to die there.
The clock is ticking on all of them.
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Re: That's poop; NFL rule causes much, if not most of the issue.
Jan 12, 2023, 11:36 AM
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NFL operations are much larger than MLB or NBA. More coaches, more players, etc...NFL has a 55 man roster. NBA is 15, MLB is 26. I don't blame the NFL for not wanting to take on more expense for a development league. The 3 leagues bring in similar revenue. That would be a massive strain to add 32 more 55 man rosters for a D league.
Money and greed has ruined it all. And you're not putting that genie back in the bottle. If some kids have to ruin their careers by throwing away an education so Clem can have a slide, or USC can have a recording studio so be it. Sucks, but that's what it's come to. At least you could cap salaries at each institution. That would stop a lot of it. It saved the NFL.
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The richest sport in the US has to spend money...
Jan 12, 2023, 12:08 PM
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to help in the development/future of their product? That's a shame. No, really.
And no one suggested an additional 32 teams @ 55 members, certainly not me, I even wrote mixed squads. There are plenty of options, there are currently, including the CFL, how many "semi-pro" teams and leagues in North America?
The Fed forces many college ADs to work at a loss because of Title IX, I'll not shed a tear or share in a concern over the $20bil /annum NFL, especially since they operate with no responsibility to and with a huge grin over the current, untenable situation. That's patently stupid.
Put the genie back in the bottle? Who's trying to do that? The idea is to create a manageable solution to the existing landscape and Congress has all it needs to apply, if not demand, the needed change by using the proper application of its power. These are Federally supported institutions, which are required by law to follow certain parameters eg Title IX, or forfeit the many gifted funds. Ain't no institution currently benefiting from the Fed teet got time for that.
A salary cap? College is not a group of private companies creating a competitive agreement between ownership & a player association.
Why anyone has a modicum of concern for the NFL in this situation or even remotely protects the NFL's self-serving interest in this is beyond the pale of reason.
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Re: The NFL should eliminate its 3 year removed rule.
Jan 12, 2023, 11:19 AM
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That is a very valid point and it reflects a societal change that has happened over the past couple of decades. The majority of the normal, hard working, law abiding people are made to cater to the whims of a very small number of radical wackos, mentally ill and weirdos. The 98% are being made to cater to the 2%, just as you say is being done in College Football. I Totally agree!
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Re: The NFL should eliminate its 3 year removed rule.
Jan 12, 2023, 12:46 PM
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I call bs that 98% of college football players went to college for the learning. That’s a bs statistic, I’ll bet it’s closer t0 50%. A lot of these kids don’t see college the way y’all do. Even I think college degrees have been cheapened in the last 2 decades. There are just as good alternatives to college out there. College is a means to an end for a lot of these players. I would much rather play in a minor league than go to class and have to study.
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Re: NIL Discussion
Jan 12, 2023, 10:10 AM
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I don't think the 21% drop to IPTAY was due to money going to collectives. Especially in 2021.
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Re: NIL Discussion
Jan 12, 2023, 11:38 AM
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No idea, just reporting what the guy said. He seemed to be very knowledgeable. What would you assign it to then?
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Re: NIL Discussion
Jan 12, 2023, 12:42 PM
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Slowing economy
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Re: NIL Discussion
Jan 12, 2023, 10:55 AM
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Well the FTC just this week proposed a ban on non compete agreements, so that part of your solution MAY be out the window.
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Re: NIL Discussion
Jan 12, 2023, 11:37 AM
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Yeah, I don't see that going away. Enough states that are employer friendly will sue, and likely win, to keep them in place.
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