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Ring of Honor [23659]
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Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
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Apr 16, 2025, 11:42 AM
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Conservative people in America appear to distrust science more broadly than previously thought. Not only do they distrust science that does not correspond to their worldview. Compared to liberal Americans, their trust is also lower in fields that contribute to economic growth and productivity.
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/1080362
Sounds about right.
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Ignorance is the breeding ground for distrust.
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Apr 16, 2025, 11:49 AM
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I see it daily in my line of work.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
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Apr 16, 2025, 11:52 AM
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So genius, what is it this time, the melting polar icepack, global warming, the environment, shrinking rain forest, the world's going to end(pick a date), ozone layer depletion? Remember the story of the boy who cried wolf? It's an old childhood tale, but I think it applies to you.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
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Apr 16, 2025, 11:53 AM
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^^^genius alert^^^
Perfect example.
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All-Pro [775]
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Go ahead Lester
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Apr 16, 2025, 11:56 AM
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Thrill us all with your knowledge. Better yet, don't.
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Re: Go ahead Lester
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Apr 16, 2025, 12:09 PM
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My knowledge how I pretend to know more than the scientific community as you do? Which aspect genius? I am cool with trusting experts. They aren't perfect, but they are the best option. You are not.
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Those "experts" have a great track record***
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Re: Those "experts" have a great track record***
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Apr 16, 2025, 1:09 PM
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Yeah..they actually do have great track records, but they aren't perfect.
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Re: Those "experts" have a great track record***
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Apr 16, 2025, 1:18 PM
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Remember when thet first said cigarettes were a health hazard?
Or how about CFCs and the ozone?
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Re: Those "experts" have a great track record***
Apr 19, 2025, 10:53 AM
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A better track record than Dispensationalist pastors predicting the end of the world…. see that unhinged numerology thread that was originally posted in the Football forum yesterday.
I don’t mind people being skeptical of science or scientists but people won’t apply that same skepticism to their own sources authority…which more often than not is some talking head on a podcast or a conservative leaning news network/youtube channel.
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Ring of Honor [23659]
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Yep, some of the most childish, idiotic posts come from our resident MAGA crowd
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Apr 16, 2025, 12:29 PM
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…just click in and take a look. Rarely a sensible or thought-out response—mostly just deflections or middle school-level sarcasm. It’s like actual arguments are against their maga-cult rules.
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Re: Yep, some of the most childish, idiotic posts come from our resident MAGA crowd
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Apr 16, 2025, 12:50 PM
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What you meant to say was this. Let me help you. Because people on this board don't agree with your every word, or they are not Tiggy, Lester PBT, Birm, or Catahoula, they are automatically deemed a moron, or even worse a cult member, or a Trump worshipper. There, I've solved your problem. Now, run along, little genius.
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Re: Yep, some of the most childish, idiotic posts come from our resident MAGA crowd
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Apr 16, 2025, 1:11 PM
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You are a moron though. You have proven across the board and without fail. You're batting 1000 when it comes exemplifying studity, with zero signs of intelligence.
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All-Pro [775]
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And there you go again Lester....
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Apr 16, 2025, 1:16 PM
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Consistently proving my point.
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Re: And there you go again Lester....
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Apr 16, 2025, 3:48 PM
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I am just being blunt. You don't have the mental capacity to prove anything. I am being blunt and letting you know what everyone thinks. You're an ignorant, foolish, uneducated, clown.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
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Apr 16, 2025, 11:54 AM
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The ozone depletion was real, was addressed by world governments, and was resolved.
It doesn’t matter if you believe in it or not, just know you sound like an ignorant fool.
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And you really don't want to know what you sound like,
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Apr 16, 2025, 11:57 AM
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Trust me on that one.
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Why gloss over the ozone fact?
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Apr 16, 2025, 12:02 PM
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One of the examples you attempted to use to discredit science is, in fact, one of the best examples in human history of nations working together to remove a threat that was both revealed and resolved by science.
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Re: And you really don't want to know what you sound like,
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Apr 16, 2025, 6:30 PM
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You sound hurt.
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Nah, just showing his kink...***
Apr 19, 2025, 10:46 PM
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The good thing about science is its true whether
Apr 16, 2025, 5:24 PM
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you believe in it or not.
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CFC ozone depletion was proved via science - man = primary cause of warming - no
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Apr 19, 2025, 7:56 AM
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Man made CFCs as the cause of atmospheric ozone depletion was scientifically proven.
Man made CO2 as being the primary cause of global warming has not been proven via science. (Convenient) intuition from scientists who keep getting new grant money from the Dept of Energy, EPA, etc is not science.
“Scientists” that are spouting the man-made CO2 as being the primary cause of global warming are frauds. They have never considered the huge changes underway beneath the earth’s crust as being a potential significant factor.
Magma currents beneath the earth’s crust have been changing … rapidly … in an extent never before recognized by science. We know this ‘magma currents trajectory change’ is happening via science; the unprecedented movement in the North Pole proves this.
https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/earths-magnetic-north-pole-is-on-the-move-and-scientists-just-updated-its-position/1737177
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True science does not draw conclusions when key potential variables are ignored.
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Re: CFC ozone depletion was proved via science - man = primary cause of warming - no
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Apr 19, 2025, 9:51 AM
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Conservation of energy is a thing. The earth’s core generates heat by radioactive decay and viscous dissipation in the molten core, but the overwhelming source of heat for the plant is the sun. When you add chemicals to the atmosphere that absorb IR the planet radiates back to space, the total energy of the planet increases. It’s basic, basic science that was predicted many years before actual evidence.
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Re: CFC ozone depletion was proved via science - man = primary cause of warming - no
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Apr 19, 2025, 8:59 PM
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Continuity in the means for measuring volcanic activity + earthquakes only goes back to about 1960.
This is according to my memory, which means that the following date ranges are probably off somewhat. However, the overall message about sizeable increase in seismic activities between a number of decades starting in 1960 versus a number of more recent decades starting in ~1980 or ~ 1990 or ~2000 is intact.
Smithsonian had reported the worldwide number of active volcanoes in any given year during the multiple decades starting in ~1960 were, on average, roughly 15% lower in number than the number of active volcanoes in each year of the multiple decades which went up to 2022 (which was the last time I looked up the data).
I’m not suggesting that these additional active volcanoes, by themselves … particularly discounting the thermal energy captured by above-ocean-surface volcanoes … had / are playing a meaningful role in the current warming of the planet.
(*). The volcanic activity does represent a change in the magma vs crust relationship, which supports the evidence of Magnet North’s recent fast movement being caused by changes in the magma currents.
Of more importance, IMO, is the unmeasured number of submarine earthquakes on heat transfer from the earth’s magma to the earth’s surface. I believe that it was Smithsonian that I used as my data source for earthquake counts per year. Unfortunately, Smithsonian only measures Mag 5, Mag 4, and (I don’t recall for sure if Mag 3 earthquakes were or were not counted). The problem is that there are many orders of magnitude more of the smaller earthquakes than the larger earthquakes, yet these are not counted and therefore no reasonable estimate of the thermal output from small earthquakes to the earth’s surface temperature can be obtained.
To my admittedly limited understanding, there has been no attempt to (1) accurately count the number of still-open-crack small earthquakes (submarine earthquakes are the ones that matter) -&- (2) measure the thermal output from those small earthquakes. Counting + measuring the thermal output of these small number of still ‘open crack’ submarine earthquakes would be a daunting endeavor; furthermore ther is no historical baseline of such small earthquakes from which to measure changes from a set of previous decades vs a different set from r3centbdecades.
(*). All in all, ther3 is a reasonable potential source of new thermal contribution of heat to the earth’s surface that has been ignored … because (A) doing so would be hard -and- (B) there is no industry to be developed to combat what might be the most significant factor in global warming (other than fluctuations in solar input).
(***). If it ain’t measured and therefore no reasonable is no interest in measuring an important heat source variable, then the those who cite global warming as being primarily caused by anthropogenic CO2 are using intuition instead of science to support their conclusions.
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Orange Elite [5221]
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Ring of Honor [21967]
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And recent studies have shown that MAGA is less educated than conservatives
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Apr 16, 2025, 11:55 AM
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Wonder if this is more pronounced if differentiated between traditional conservatives and MAGA supporters. They may be two different animal so to speak.
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Ring of Honor [23659]
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They have to be. My dad is conservative but definitely not maga.
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Apr 16, 2025, 12:22 PM
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He's a sharp guy who's done well for himself. He believes in science, medicine, vaccines, etc. Just very conservative - mostly on government spending and taxation.
Maga is a whole different animal, and don't get me started on the rally-goers.
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Re: They have to be. My dad is conservative but definitely not maga.
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Apr 19, 2025, 10:06 AM
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Yes. Traditional conservatives know Trump is a clown. Some back him because they think they can get what they want from him. And since he will do anything for the right amount of money, that’s a good play if they are rich enough. I think most have had enough of him, especially as he tries to dismantle the whole cold war security arrangements that traditional conservatives helped design. Every previous republican president would disavow him if they were alive, if only because of his love affair with Putin.
MAGA is a toxic mix of societal dregs (racist, nazi, bigots, pedophiles, and whatever you consider the worst trash), pseudo-religious evangelicals who think he was chosen by God, undereducated “populists” who actually believe his lies, and now a lot of 20-something incels from the musk/rogan corner of the pornosphere.
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Re: They have to be. My dad is conservative but definitely not maga.
Apr 19, 2025, 10:20 AM
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Holy-hell did you sum up maga perfectly. Well done.
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Re: They have to be. My dad is conservative but definitely not maga.
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Apr 19, 2025, 9:08 PM
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You repeat that nonsense simply because you wish it were so.
To those who hang around government scientists and university professors, they thrive on such circle jerk beliefs to pump themselves up and to hope that it convinces easily impressed simpletons to support the government’s dispensing of grant money that butters the on-the-public-dole scientists’ bread.
If you were honest, then you’d admit that the self-described ‘real scientists’ which you hold in such high esteem have a financial interest in their own self-promotional narratives.
One should always be skeptical of any self-described ‘expert’ whose point of view corresponds to their own financial comfort.
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Which science ? The "There are 53 genders" science ?... or the 2 Genders
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Apr 16, 2025, 12:18 PM
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Science ?
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You do realize that biological sex and gender are 2 different things?
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Apr 16, 2025, 12:25 PM
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And that gender, as a cultural construct that has evolved over time and varies from place to place, is not the strict binary you presume?
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Lets dumb it down for chem - there are 2 sexes
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Apr 16, 2025, 12:28 PM
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and more than 2 genders, since gender refers to the characteristics or behaviors and role that society associates with male and female.
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Re: Lets dumb it down for chem - there are 2 sexes
Apr 19, 2025, 9:13 PM
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What horse manure.
To keep it simple, define those non-chromosomal / non-genitalia characteristics + behaviors of a gender-woman that distinguishes herself from a non-woman.
Don’t try to name every behavior / characteristic, as that would be too much to ask. Just pick out four or five, if you can.
I’ll be ready to challenge you if your information is not convincing.
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When scienctific concensus disagrees with your opinions
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Apr 16, 2025, 12:32 PM
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It doesn't always make you wrong, but more often than not it is YOU as the individual who has not done the actual clinical research and/or rigorous sociological study who is misinformed.
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Re: ... so the fake science ... yeah ... I'll pass on that one.***
Apr 19, 2025, 11:26 AM
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I consider the other four viable combinations of X and Y chromosomes to be different sexes than XX and XY, but scientists call them genotypes.
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So, is it possible to be a male woman, or a female man?
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Apr 20, 2025, 7:17 AM
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If male and female refer to biological sex and man and woman refer to gender then should people quit using man and woman when they are talking about sex.
Instead of having men's and women's bathrooms, should we relabel them male and female? Instead of boys and girls sports, should we have male and sports?
Wouldn't that solve the problem? A male who identifies as a woman could simply say "I am a male woman."
Isn't that what you are saying?
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Re: So, is it possible to be a male woman, or a female man?
Apr 20, 2025, 4:19 PM
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Uh oh.
You’ve check-mated him.
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Many of them distrust The Constitution and the rule of law as stated today here
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Apr 16, 2025, 12:28 PM
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on this board very clearly in reaction to Trump's recent actions.
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"And if that means I'm in opposition to the constitution, so be it, "***
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"If these people are afforded due process by the Constitution, then the ...
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...Constitution needs to be amended."
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Conservatives trust science
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Apr 16, 2025, 1:19 PM
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Fascist MAGA nut jobs who think they are conservatives do not.
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Not again
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Apr 16, 2025, 1:24 PM
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You talk like a child who just had his lunch money taken by a bully. Go back to your safespace.
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Projecting
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Apr 16, 2025, 3:45 PM
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Go back and read your posts.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
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I do not distrust science. I do question some things in “science”. When I was in college we were taught to question everything because it’s the basis for new discovery. Is that still a thing or do we now blindly follow anything and everything g labeled as science? I’m sorry but when I hear someone say “the science is settled” I ask questions. It does not mean I reject whatever is “settled” but I will ask a few questions.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
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"Settled science" has joined "racist" and many other words that the left uses to shut down debate for which they are never prepared. Then they'll tell you the planet will be uninhabitable in ten years, men can give birth, and a whole host of other ridiculous assertions and then have the complete lack of self awareness to call you names when you express even the slightest skepticism. Tells you all you need to know about who the real cult members are.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
Apr 19, 2025, 9:11 PM
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When did they say that men can give birth? When was it commonly thought of that the Earth will unhabitable in 10 years? I have never heard either of those stated. You get weirder and weirder.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
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At one time the science was settled on cutting people open so that they could bleed out illnesses. 100 years from now there will be 'settled science" of today that people will laugh about. Unless, of course, there's no more questioning of "settled science", and we stop evolving our knowledge base.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
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Exactly my point. Some things we know to be true today will still be so in 100 years. Others will be laughed at as you said.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
Apr 19, 2025, 9:20 PM
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The argument of ‘settled science’ continues to be widely abused today, just as it has been throughout history.
Today, as it was way back when, charlatans and lazy + arrogant ‘scientists’ still use the term ‘settled science’ or ‘trust the science’ in hopes of shutting down debate that may end up hurting their reputation and / or financial well-being.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
Apr 19, 2025, 9:23 PM
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Yeah, but you are completely lost either way. Look at your ignorant post above àbout men having babies and 10 years until Earth is uninhabitable. Your brain is too warped to really be part of any serious conversation.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
Apr 20, 2025, 4:22 PM
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This time you’ve got a bit of avatar dyslexia. I did not make any such comments.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
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That's what was thought about what was known 50 to 100 years ago. I will promise you, that in 150 years today's Science will be outdated, and some of what was claimed to be settled today will be scoffed at.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
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Always remember that God is in control. Yes there is global warming and other environmental factors in play. God does expect us to take care of His world.
God gave man the ability to create the combustible engine. God also put trillions of barrels of oil under the earth. God intended man to use these resources. God will give man the fuel and resources He wants us to use when He is ready. Think of how far we have come. Electric, solar, nuclear and other sources of energy. When God wants to replace fossil fuels He will make it happen.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
Apr 19, 2025, 10:38 PM
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God is not in control. Nice try. Ridiculous.
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It's the evil political actions that conservatives don't trust. Just look at the Obama administration when billions of dollars were given to solar power companies. These companies were nothing more than left wing environmental freaks who didn't do anything with the billions they were given. Most of the money ended up in Liberal politicians hands. Not one good thing came out of it. Keep believing in your mainstream media. Harris ,Biden. Obama , Clinton's and all the anti American freaks depends on you worshipping their lies.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
Apr 19, 2025, 10:50 PM
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Your cult leader is absolutely full of shytt so you must be okay with it.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
Apr 20, 2025, 4:26 PM
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Please don’t cheapen your reputation as a reasonable person by suggesting that Solyndra was anything more than a platform for transferring federal money to politica partisans who supported Democrat Party politics.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
Apr 20, 2025, 4:50 PM
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I have no idea whether it was something that didn't thrive or whether it was a grift or even whether it was a combination of both. My gut is that it started with altruistic intentions.
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Re: Conservative Americans consistently distrust science
Apr 19, 2025, 10:59 PM
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I don’t know where conservative Americans are right now. Do they exist? They let the maga idiots walk all over them and destroy the Republican party.
Stunningly spineless.
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