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Orange Beast [6283]
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My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 2:04 PM
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Mr. Neff - early congrats on being the new AD. I hope your first order of business is to ask Coach Brownell to resign. He has proven that he cannot instill confidence is his players or in the fan base. There was a post on tigernet yesterday hoping that this would be your first action. 80% of those reacting to the post favored a new basketball coach.
Our program has been mired in mediocrity for years, even decades and i feel it is time for the administration and AD to state publicly a goal for our basketball program….my suggestion is top 25 in the nation consistently.
If you build it the fans will come.
Thanks for listening and best wishes in your new role.
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 2:14 PM
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Mr. Neff - early congrats on being the new AD. I hope your first order of business is to ask Coach Brownell to resign. He has proven that he cannot instill confidence is his players or in the fan base. There was a post on tigernet yesterday hoping that this would be your first action. 80% of those reacting to the post favored a new basketball coach.
Our program has been mired in mediocrity for years, even decades and i feel it is time for the administration and AD to state publicly a goal for our basketball program….my suggestion is top 25 in the nation consistently.
If you build it the fans will come.
Thanks for listening and best wishes in your new role.
As usual folks like you dont get it. We have been mediocre for 100+ years. The past few years since we updated the facility we have been better than Mediocre. A stated goal of being consistently a top 25 team is useless unless we fund the improvement. Funding = results. So if you had $10MM to spend on Clemson athletics where would you invest it? Would you put it in Soccer, football or softball were the results would be certain or would you drop it on Basketball with no guarantee of improvement given the dirty tactics of AAU coaches?
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 3:48 PM
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu [2]
Dec 13, 2021, 2:14 PM
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Mr. Neff - early congrats on being the new AD. I hope your first order of business is to ask Coach Brownell to resign. He has proven that he cannot instill confidence is his players or in the fan base. There was a post on tigernet yesterday hoping that this would be your first action. 80% of those reacting to the post favored a new basketball coach.
Our program has been mired in mediocrity for years, even decades and i feel it is time for the administration and AD to state publicly a goal for our basketball program….my suggestion is top 25 in the nation consistently.
If you build it the fans will come.
Thanks for listening and best wishes in your new role.
FIRST OFF I THINK THAT IS MADE UP BULLSH!T. IF NOT HOPE YOU FEEL LIKE A REAL MAN BY TYPING SUCH TRIPE. YOU AND YOUR TYPE ARE THE PROBLEM. YOU GOT TO BE QUITE THE KEYBOARD BADA$$. GUESSING YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE THE NUTS TO SAY THAT TO HIS FACE. BUT HEY HOPE IT MADE YOU FEEL GREAT.
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Orange Beast [6283]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 3:55 PM
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I would be proud to say it to his face. Let’s see your email to him. And BTW calling people names on a message board is a very immature way to act.
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Game Changer [1985]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 4:37 PM
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you quoting a poll from tigetnet as a conclusive opinion of the fan base and then emailing it to the guy in his first week of work then brag about it on a message board is a very immature way to act.
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Orange Blooded [2189]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 7:03 PM
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Calling people names does seem immature but calling you an fing loser is just stating fact.
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Orange Beast [6283]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 8:20 PM
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I got my pulse number by stating that i did not like CBB. You must have gotten yours for using foul language and calling people names. Signs of a sad sack.
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Game Changer [1912]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 5:48 PM
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Actually this was in response to a thread from yesterday. Look at basketball attendance. The product is bad and the attendance reflects that. A supporter of Brownell yesterday gave the email address, called non supporters names, and said we should just email the office. So which way do you want it? Is there enough room in your sandbox for us to shove our heads in tbe sand too? I ask in all sincerity. All of you ole timers please enlighten us "not real fans" what we should do? Please!!!
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Tiger Titan [47594]
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What makes the product bad?
Dec 13, 2021, 5:58 PM
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Other than the delusion that we should never or a game unless it’s a top 10 team on the road?
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Game Changer [1912]
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Re: What makes the product bad?
Dec 13, 2021, 6:05 PM
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What is he record against teams in the top 30 in his years at Clemson? What is his overall conference record the last 5 years vs his first 5? Please sir amaze me the data???
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Tiger Titan [47594]
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Here you go.
Dec 13, 2021, 8:29 PM
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Versus ranked teams at Clemson:
2010-2011: 1-4
2011-2012: 1-4
2012-2013: 0-6
2013-2014: 1-4
2014-2015: 1-6
2015-2016: 3-3
2016-2017: 1-9
2017-2018: 4-5
2018-2019: 1-7
2019-2020: 3-3
2020-2021: 2-1
Brownell ACC record:
First 5 years: 40-46 (.465)
Last 5 years: 45-45 (.500)
Both data sets show improvement since the early part of his tenure.
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Orange Beast [6283]
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Re: Here you go.
Dec 13, 2021, 8:32 PM
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Thanks Tim.
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.500 doesn’t exactly make it move . . .***
Dec 13, 2021, 9:04 PM
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Tiger Titan [47594]
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Purnell was 42-38 in the ACC his last 5 years at Clemson.
Dec 13, 2021, 9:14 PM
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Does that make it move for you?
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Oculus Spirit [40675]
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I’ll take above .500
Dec 13, 2021, 9:27 PM
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Would like to not predictably lose the lead in many a second half and win the first round of the ncaas every once in awhile. Was quite happy with 2018
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Game Changer [1912]
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Re: Here you go.
Dec 13, 2021, 10:10 PM
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Slight improvement. I'll give you that, but a program hovering around .500? I honestly believe that is everyone's issue. Is .500 as good as it gets at Clemson in basketball? And the record against ranked teams is.... not good. 18-52? (my quick math). I think people see positive flashes, but then the team goes backwards again. I think Brownell has grown stale and fans ate ready for new energy with program. But I will say thanks for digging data. Impressive!!
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Tiger Titan [47594]
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My question always gets back to what are our expectations
Dec 14, 2021, 8:58 AM
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based on?
Under Brownell, we are a middle of the pack ACC team on average, with some years in the top third and some years in the bottom third.
But when we look at a variety of metrics, we are near the bottom of the conference: basketball expenditures, average attendance, basketball history, etc.
Based on this, finishing in the middle of the pack in the ACC shows that we are overachieving relative to our investment in the program. In other words, Brownell is doing a good job. Plus, he runs a clean program, graduates his players at an incredibly high rate, and represents Clemson well.
People say that they want us to be a top 25 program, make the NCAA Tournament every year, etc. I think that's great! I'd love that too. But I feel that it's unrealistic to want that when we aren't willing to fund and support basketball better. At some point, Clemson must decide if basketball is going to be a high priority (in other words, comparable to or at least just behind football) or merely an afterthought as it has historically been.
Just wanting to be better without a willingness to work for it (and occasionally even sacrifice other things even if they are for football) is just foolish.
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Rival Killer [3060]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 2:21 PM
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Lol at you referencing people on tigernet's opinion. Thank god our Ad doesn't listen to the idiots on tigernet.
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Orange Beast [6283]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 3:27 PM
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If 80% favored keeping him i bet you would be touting that.
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 3:36 PM
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The email was way to harsh for getting a response. If just saying play close attention to the basketball program for improvements including evaluating Coach Brownell would be better suited.
I would say you can win at a program like Clemson by playing by the rules and guidelines. There are programs now winning the right way under the right guidelines in the Power 5.
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Oculus Spirit [39901]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 2:22 PM
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Don’t believe they want to invest in the the kind of money that would be able to recruit the talent needed for a consistent top 25 run.
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Tiger Spirit [9562]
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Tell us more.
Dec 13, 2021, 3:02 PM
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How much money is needed? And exactly where would it be spent?
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Orange Beast [6283]
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Re: Tell us more.
Dec 13, 2021, 3:28 PM
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Some of the CBB supporters seem to think he would be a better coach and recruiter if we paid him more.
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Tiger Spirit [9562]
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Right.
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Dec 13, 2021, 4:37 PM
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And they can never answer this series of questions:
-How much money?
-Exactly what will it be spent on?
-What exactly should the direct result be? And why?
I know I’m wasting my time to continue to ask them. But it’s kind of entertaining, so I chalk it up to that.
I don’t waste much time on Netflix and stuff like that, so I can do it here.
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Tiger Titan [47594]
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He himself is paid pretty fairly if you look at where we rank
Dec 13, 2021, 6:05 PM
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in terms of conference finish, recruiting, etc. He overachieves relative to those metrics, but not excessively so at this point.
My issue lies in the fact that his assistants are paid less than the national average. How can you expect us to have a top 25 program when the budget we give our coach for assistant coaches is 175th or less (given 350 division 1 teams)?!?
In terms of ACC rank, our total basketball program expenditure are near the bottom of the conference. We finish about 6th-7th on average in the ACC under Brad in terms of wins. How much more are you expecting him to overachieve relative to Clemson’s willingness to fund the program?
Reading responses here, you would think that we have invested heavily in basketball and Brad has failed. That isn’t the case at all.
We have a perception vs. reality problem with a lot of our fans.
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Tiger Spirit [9562]
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I’m going to ask this yet again:
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Dec 13, 2021, 7:04 PM
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Which of these do you believe?
1. We do not have the right coaching staff in place. The following coaches need to be replaced: _______
2. We have the right coaches in place, but they would do a better job if their paychecks increase.
If you can’t choose one of those, then stop complaining that we don’t pay assistant coaches enough.
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Tiger Titan [47594]
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I like our assistant coaches and think they are good hires for what we pay them.
Dec 13, 2021, 9:34 PM
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But when we talk about recruiting against top 25 programs, and helping with finer points of game planning, I can’t help but wonder if a top 25 budget wouldn’t help tremendously.
We saw a big improvement in our football program when we upgraded from Billy Napier to Chad Morris as OC. Likewise, we saw a big improvement when we upgraded from Kevin Steele to Brent Venables. Those guys are obviously good coaches, but the added budget for better assistants was crucial to our success. It stands to reason that the same would likely hold true for our basketball program.
I don’t know why this is so difficult for you to understand.
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Tiger Spirit [9562]
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I don’t know why it’s so difficult for you
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Dec 13, 2021, 10:07 PM
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to answer my question.
Either choose 1 or 2.
If you choose 1… then what coaches should be replaced?
If you choose 2…Why would they magically do a better job when they get paid more?
And since you brought up football, I’ll remind you again that in the early years Dabo took money from his own salary to pay his assistants more.
Seemed to work out pretty well for him.
Has BrownL tried that?
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Rival Killer [3060]
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Re: I don’t know why it’s so difficult for you
Dec 14, 2021, 9:08 AM
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to answer my question.
Either choose 1 or 2.
If you choose 1… then what coaches should be replaced?
If you choose 2…Why would they magically do a better job when they get paid more?
And since you brought up football, I’ll remind you again that in the early years Dabo took money from his own salary to pay his assistants more.
Seemed to work out pretty well for him.
Has BrownL tried that?
^^^^^
This idiot is not worth talking to because he legitimately wants the basketball team to fail so we can get rid of brownell.
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Tiger Spirit [9562]
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Re: I don’t know why it’s so difficult for you
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Dec 14, 2021, 10:01 AM
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^^^^
When a logical question is posed, this guy only has the mental capacity to insult and call names.
Don’t waste your time.
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Rival Killer [3060]
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Re: I don’t know why it’s so difficult for you
Dec 14, 2021, 10:29 AM
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^^^^
When a logical question is posed, this guy only has the mental capacity to insult and call names.
Don’t waste your time.
Ok I'll answer your question even though you didn't ask me.
The answer is 1.
The only way Clemson performs to your ridiculous expectations is if we:
Fire brownell and hire coach k out of retirement. We will let him hire all of the assistant coaches he needs regardless of budget.
Then we connect with a team of boosters and shoe companies so that we can pay our players to come to Clemson.
After we do this we should easily make the tourney every year and compete with the blue bloods every year. Anything less is unacceptable
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Tiger Spirit [9562]
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“Ridiculous expectations”
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Dec 14, 2021, 11:14 AM
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Really the only thing I want is to enjoy watching Clemson basketball again, like most of us did for every previous coach other than Larry Shyatt.
We’ve got a 12 year sample size to know that’s not happening with the current coach.
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Rival Killer [3060]
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Re: “Ridiculous expectations”
Dec 14, 2021, 11:39 AM
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Really the only thing I want is to enjoy watching Clemson basketball again, like most of us did for every previous coach other than Larry Shyatt.
We’ve got a 12 year sample size to know that’s not happening with the current coach.
I don't think you can enjoy Clemson basketball as long as brownell is our coach. You constantly bash him and only spell his name as brownL.
I've really enjoyed watching Clemson basketball these last 5 years. Last year's regular season was one of the best we have ever had. We beat a record 8 NCAA tourney teams. I'm sure you had fun watching that, right? It was a disappointing end to the season, but does that really ruin the entire season for you? The sweet 16 run was awesome. The down year we had in 2019 still was exciting where we beat 3 top 6 teams and beat UNC in chapel hill.
Brownell is a solid coach. He's a very average recruiter, but that is improving w/ facilities and hopefully continued NCAA tourney appearances. We also are not stagnant. Barring unexpected transfers, we should be better next year. Our incoming recruiting class is one of the best he has had. Brownell has also proved he can benefit the team with transfers.
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Tiger Spirit [9562]
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Re: “Ridiculous expectations”
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Dec 14, 2021, 11:49 AM
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I actually like Brad. Have met him a couple times. Pretty cool guy.
I just can’t stand watching bad and boring basketball, and I really can’t stand excuses.
Enjoyed his first season (with OP’s players), and it’s been downhill from there with the exception of one short-lived moment of excitement a few years ago.
Time for a refreshing change.
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Rival Killer [3060]
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Re: “Ridiculous expectations”
Dec 14, 2021, 12:52 PM
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I actually like Brad. Have met him a couple times. Pretty cool guy.
I just can’t stand watching bad and boring basketball, and I really can’t stand excuses.
Enjoyed his first season (with OP’s players), and it’s been downhill from there with the exception of one short-lived moment of excitement a few years ago.
Time for a refreshing change.
Statements like this makes it seem like you don't follow basketball very closely.
It hasn't been all downhill from there. It went downhill immediately after year 1 because Purnell left the cupboard bare with all average to below average players.
Brownell has accomplished more at Clemson than Purnell ever did.
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Tiger Spirit [9562]
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Re: “Ridiculous expectations”
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Dec 14, 2021, 1:39 PM
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Well Brad must be some kind of magician then.
You mean to tell me we’ve just had over a decade of good and exciting basketball, and the majority of Clemson fans don’t even realize it?
Truly amazing that he could hide such a thing from us.
Ya know…maybe I will try to pay closer attention.
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Tiger Titan [47594]
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Brownell restructured his contract in order to get more money for assistants.
Dec 14, 2021, 2:04 PM
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Plus, Brad did almost all of the fundraising for the new facilities.
Please don’t act like Dabo made all these sacrifices and Brad didn’t.
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Tiger Spirit [9562]
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When was Brad’s pay reduced?***
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Dec 14, 2021, 2:58 PM
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Orange Beast [6283]
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Re: I like our assistant coaches and think they are good hires for what we pay them.
Dec 14, 2021, 11:01 AM
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Is upgrading assistants going to make CBB a better strategic coach and more inspirational? The comparison to the football scenario is apples to oranges. There are 10 times more parts to a football program than a basketball program.
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All-American [581]
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Every single season there are top 25 teams with less money
Dec 13, 2021, 5:55 PM
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and better players... at least better coached players. Basketball is unlike football.. you don't need to be some sort of "P5" upper tier to build a good program. A good program in this solid conference should be able to win more then 2 tournament games every 11 years.
Point is, we have enough money. More money is not needed to make a perennial top 25 team. We have enough money, resources, facilities etc. to build from the inside out, that is, coaching and program development.
The basketball program is lacking nothing from the outside in. We can do much better in basketball, and 11 years is obviously enough time to show some upward results.
I honestly like Brad Brownell a lot and wish he could succeed and move us upward, but another year with no tournament wins should mean the end of the tenure. Agreed?
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Tiger Spirit [9562]
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Well said. Agree 100%.***
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Dec 13, 2021, 7:42 PM
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Tiger Spirit [9642]
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I bet when his secretary saw Tigernet referenced, she
Dec 13, 2021, 2:38 PM
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sent that email straight to him.
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Grant's first order of business was to install
Dec 13, 2021, 2:49 PM
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a hot line fax machine so that emails such as this could be printed and faxed to him and a flashing red light would start blinking so he would know it's priority one
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Game Changer [1665]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 3:18 PM
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Did you run this by Judge Keller® before you sent it? You will surely upset the minority here without his input regarding men's basketball.
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Thankfully, Mr. Neff has been around long enough to know that fans’ opinions
Dec 13, 2021, 3:20 PM
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are worth what he paid for them.
That’s especially true when said opinions are unsolicited, misinformed, and completely clueless regarding what it takes to run a successful program.
With that said, sending that email seemed to make you feel better so there’s that.
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Re: Thankfully, Mr. Neff has been around long enough to know that fans’ opinions
Dec 13, 2021, 3:31 PM
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So why haven’t you run for the job or shared your communications to the athletic department here? You are pretty good at demeaning those who have a different opinion than yours. Is that what is called intolerance?
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Athletic Dir [1108]
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Re: Thankfully, Mr. Neff has been around long enough to know that fans’ opinions
Dec 13, 2021, 3:48 PM
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Most of us supporters communicate directly with the AD not on T-net with the uninformed and undereducated. BTW where did you play D-1 basketball? I'm guessing nowhere!!
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Orange Beast [6283]
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Re: Thankfully, Mr. Neff has been around long enough to know that fans’ opinions
Dec 13, 2021, 3:57 PM
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Tolerance of other opinions is a virtue. Are you virtuous?
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Orange Beast [6308]
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Re: Thankfully, Mr. Neff has been around long enough to know that fans’ opinions
Dec 13, 2021, 3:38 PM
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The fans pay the bills through IPTAY donations and ticket sales. So , yes the CUAD will listen to IPTAY members.
I am going to ask again. What does Clemson basketball need to be a consistent top 25 program?
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TigerNet Legend [146672]
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Maybe you're asking the right questions...
Dec 13, 2021, 3:50 PM
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to the wrong person. I would be interested to hear what Dabo Swinney's and Mike Noonan's thoughts are on the subject. They both clearly know what it takes to be champions.
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Orange Beast [6283]
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Re: Thankfully, Mr. Neff has been around long enough to know that fans’ opinions
Dec 13, 2021, 4:01 PM
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I would start with a new coach. Is there anyone on this board who is confident of CBB’s coaching ability in the last 10 minutes of a game? It is the coach’s lone responsibility to instill confidence in their players to perform their best at the end of games. Has CBB done that? Which part of the game do our players play the best? Year after year and roster after roster it is the same.
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Oculus Spirit [40675]
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Tiger Titan [47594]
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I think it is successful relative to the funding and support it receives.
Dec 13, 2021, 9:38 PM
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Plus, it is also a well run program in terms of player conduct and academics.
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Oculus Spirit [40675]
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I’ll be honest I get tired of the money excuses. But I understand what you mean.
Dec 13, 2021, 9:54 PM
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The sad part is we are mere inches so to speak or points away from being where I’d like. How many close games have we lost . You’re talking like 5 points a few games each year from being in the tournament regularly. Money isn’t going to make that difference. Get a little fire in your belly, coach just a touch harder, something. The ones we are losing by 20 or 30 pts I get it we are outclassed. But win those close ones.
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All-American [581]
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Yet again, funding and support do not win games.
Dec 14, 2021, 1:27 PM
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How many times in your life will you use those tired excuses? They simply are not logical, let alone the fact it's not true. We could throw 10x the money st basketball and it will do nothing to change the losses.
Regardless, we have enough money and support. It boils down to one thing and one thing only - coaching.
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Paw Master [17302]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 3:59 PM
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Where will you plant the corn field so this miracle of a coach can come out of the field to thousands of fans chanting Top 25, Top 25 etc…
Clemson needs to get the athletic program back on sound financial ground before addressing Coach Brownell or investing more $$$$$$$ into basketball. I have to admit I am a Brownell supporter. I know the history of Clemson mens basketball. We have been climbing up hill for a long time. Maybe with Coach K retiring Clemson can move up the ladder and win more games.
IMO firing a coach is not always the answer. I do agree more money is needed but where will it come from during hard times.??
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Orange Beast [6308]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 4:08 PM
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Put the coach aside for a minute. Is there something that CUAD/IPTAY needs to provide to basketball. I have never felt that Clemson has asked our athletes to settle for less than best. That is why I have continuously donated to IPTAY. What does a Duke basketball player have available to him that a Clemson player does not?
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Orange Beast [6283]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 4:34 PM
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The Hon Judge Keller has the answer to that question. He has surveyed the situation at great lengths and is the resident expert. I think for him It boils down to money, fans, and facilities.
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Orange Beast [6308]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 4:40 PM
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Thanks. I hope that he responds because I am sincerely curious. I know that MBB is a different beast because of the one and done players. I am hoping to learn more about the current situation at Clemson.
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110%er [3719]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 7:16 PM
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The NBA? No, actually, more than $44 of Adidos and Nike money and Dickie V fawning over them.
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Game Changer [2005]
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Game Day Hero [4403]
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You really didn't write that did you ?
Dec 13, 2021, 4:00 PM
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And besides, in Coach B's type of job, you don't resign, they key is to get "fired". That way you get the rest of your contract money and then retire to a no State Tax State. If you quit, no money.
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu- I am shocked
Dec 13, 2021, 5:15 PM
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shocked you wrote that and amazed your pulse isnt even lower that 80 some %. Good lowered. This is laughably bad
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Orange Beast [6283]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu- I am shocked
Dec 13, 2021, 7:18 PM
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So you are another intolerant of other opinions and the way those folks on this board show it is td’s and name calling. Such a nice format for intolerables.
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Dynasty Maker [3561]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 6:09 PM
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Signed,
LThom22, Graduating Class of 2029
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Clemson Conqueror [11128]
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You bring up a good point...the age of some of the tnet posters!
Dec 13, 2021, 7:42 PM
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I wish the profiles would show our ages, and a way to filter by age...I definitely don't need to hear some 15-20 year old's opinion on most of the subjects discussed here! By the same token, maybe the young bucks would like to filter us old farts out! That's ok too!
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Orange Beast [6283]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 8:16 PM
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Funny. Look closer. I’m not ashamed of my graduation year….1971. That was back when male Clemson students were gentlemen with manners. Unlike a lot of younger name calling tneters on thi board.
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Orange Beast [6539]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 13, 2021, 9:00 PM
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Ok, let's go get another Tates Locke, who was poking the Rallye Cats and God knows who else.
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Letterman [290]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 14, 2021, 1:53 AM
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It's really pathetic to not only send this kind of low class tantrum to an AD, but to also post his email address publicly on here. Whether its available online or not isn't the issue. It's all really childish, selfish, and pathetic. He will probably have to have the administration change his email address now and going forward use a secretary for emails like Dabo does.
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Orange Beast [6283]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 14, 2021, 10:57 AM
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His email is on the CU Athletics website for all to see.
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Letterman [290]
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Re: My email to neffg@clemson.edu
Dec 14, 2021, 1:41 PM
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"Whether its available online or not isn't the issue."
Proved my point.
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