Regarding the question about what the ACC can do to help itself....

Aug 13, 2024, 12:49 PM

Is it possible for the administration to overcome the teams sucking?

The answer is "no." The programs of the ACC have thoroughly chosen impotence despite the power moves by the administration to make the conference a behemoth. Miami, Virginia Tech, FSU, Georgia Tech, Boston College, etc... had their chances to elevate or stay elite. They all took hard nose-dives. FSU deserves a more credit than the rest... but their drop from prominence was terribly timed.

The BIGGEST blame goes to Miami. Virginia Tech was good when the rest of the conference descended into joke territory... but it is crazy the massive collapse of the ACC when we looked to be the premier football conference in 2004.

In 2003, Miami had finished 5th and nearly (bad call) won the natty the year before. FSU had won a natty a couple years before. Virginia Tech had climbed into the top 5 during in the middle of the 2003 season. Clemson looked to have turn a corner finally beating FSU, and going on a crazy run after the lip-quiver, finishing ranked and beat a #6 Tennessee team in the Peach Bowl.

In 2002 NC State and Maryland finished in the top-15, so their relevance was still on the radar.

In the 2004 Preseason AP poll the ACC had 4 teams in the top 16. 2 in the top 6.

A year later, ONLY the new additions (Boston College, Virginia Tech and Miami) were in the top 20 by the end of the season. So the administration was the only reason the ACC had a SINGLE top-20 team in 2005.

Then by 2006 the ACC essentially committed harakiri. Our highest ranked team was Weak Florist and they ranked 18th. Not a single top 15 team. We were officially a joke at that point.

Did the next year help? Nope. In 2007 the only top 15 teams were Boston College (10) and Virginia Tech(9). The old ACC completely died.

2008 was the same. Everyone sucked except Virginia Tech. And they were 15th in the final AP poll. Nothing higher.

2009 we barely cracked the top 10. Virginia Tech again. Paul Johnson's triple option Georgia Tech also cracked the top 15 that year.

And to finish off the death of the conference, in 2010, we didn't have a single team in the top 15. Again.

The teams sucked. The institutions themselves killed the reputation of the conference for a whole generation.

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Re: Regarding the question about what the ACC can do to help itself....

The ACC leaders made a few mistakes over the years

1.) should have stayed out of the North East. The calculated move to gain TV eyeballs up there and increase in Basketball teams was a huge predictable mistake. They simply do not care about college football. Should at least never taken Cuse and BC. I'm 50/50 on Pitt.
2.) the half marriage with ND is awful. It is propping them up to stay independent.
3.) if adding Pitt, should have taken WV. Athletic Conferences have nothing to do with academics, none of us care.
4.) When there was clear signs the BIG 12 was in trouble and talk of expansion was going on, the ACC should have pressed hard for Texas, Okla, Okla State to go to 16(with Pitt). and then when Big 10 blew up the PaC 12 by taken those teams, should have imploded the BIG 12 so the Pac 12 could have stayed relevant and the ACC could have had almost sole TV presence in Texas,okla to go with the rest of the south by adding any 4-8 of these to go to 20-24 (Baylor, TCU, KState, Kansas, UCF, SMU, Cin(for Louisville,Pitt,WV), Houston)

I know getting Texas and okla was a stretch but if acted quickly enough could have happened. I would rather of had a intact Pac 12 than a Big 12 with a stronger ACC

what would a TV deal for the ACC look like if it was
Clemson, Texas, oklahoma, oklahoma St, FSU, Miami, Pitt, WV, Louisville, UNC, NC State, Georgia Tech,UVa, Va tech,Cinn, TCU, Baylor, SMU, Kansas, Kansas State, UCF, Duke, Wake, Houston?

side note, with streaming markets are looked at differnet now though

I dont know, monday morning QBing