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Mamdanis religion of peace: Transformation of Islam
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Nov 6, 2025, 2:24 PM
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Remember when G.W. Bush lauded Islam as a religion of peace?
Context matters. C&P from article which introduces a few basics about the Quran and where we are with Islam in today’s world. (The article itself is linked at the end of this post.))
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The Peaceful Face: A Tactic for When Muslims Are Weak
In the early years, from 610 to 622 AD, Muhammad had just a handful of followers in the city of Mecca. He had no army or real power, so he spoke words of peace and patience to win people over and avoid trouble. The Quran from this time paints Islam as a faith that gets along with others:
One verse says: “To you be your religion, and to me mine.” (Quran 109:6) Another declares: “There is no force in religion.” (Quran 2:256) And there’s this advice: “Be patient with what they say and keep away from them in a kind way.” (Quran 73:10) These lines make Islam seem like a gentle path, one that respects differences and avoids fights. It’s the face you hear about when people say Islam is a peaceful religion.
The Violent Face: The Real Commands Once Power Arrives
Everything changed in 622 AD when Muhammad fled to Medina. There he built an army and became a leader who ordered attacks, killings and takeovers. The Quran shifted hard to commands for war and control over non-Muslims. These verses, written later, wipe out the earlier peaceful ones through abrogation as stated in Quran 2:106 –
“Whatever verse We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or one similar to it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?”
Meaning that Allah may cancel or replace an earlier rule in the Quran with a new one. “Or cause it to be forgotten” Sometimes Allah lets people forget an old verse (it’s no longer recited or practiced).
“Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent?”
Meaning that Allah has full authority to change rules because He knows what’s best for humanity at different times.
The peaceful verses were replaced with the following violent ones:
The famous “Sword Verse”: “Kill the idol-worshippers wherever you find them…” (Quran 9:5) A call to battle: “Fight those who do not believe in Allah… until they pay a special tax in total submission.” (Quran 9:29) And a promise of fear: “I will throw terror into the hearts of those who reject faith… so strike them on the necks…” (Quran 8:12)
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https://www.theburningplatform.com/2025/11/06/islams-hidden-danger-two-faces-that-lead-to-violence-and-conquest/
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Literally gave a military base to a Sharia law nation in Idaho
Nov 6, 2025, 2:32 PM
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But oh no, Muslim mayor in NYC...
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Only Christians are allowed to pick and choose which parts of their magic book
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Nov 6, 2025, 2:27 PM
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to follow.
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In fairness to Christians - we are much less likely to fly a plane into the
Nov 6, 2025, 3:48 PM
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side of a building in the name of our Lord.
But pinning any of the extreme interpretations of the Quran on the new NYC mayor is silly as well.
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Good research on the quotes
Nov 6, 2025, 2:32 PM
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Try these:
"If there is found among you, within any of your towns that the Lord your God is giving you, a man or woman who does what is evil in the sight of the Lord your God, in transgressing his covenant, and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the host of heaven, which I have forbidden, and it is told you and you hear of it, then you shall inquire diligently, and if it is true and certain that such an abomination has been done in Israel, then you shall bring out to your gates that man or woman who has done this evil thing, and you shall stone that man or woman to death with stones. On the evidence of two witnesses or of three witnesses the one who is to die shall be put to death; a person shall not be put to death on the evidence of one witness. ..." -Deuteronomy 17:2-7
"Whoever sacrifices to any god, other than the Lord alone, shall be devoted to destruction." -Exodus 22:20
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Tell me you do not know the difference in Old Testament
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Nov 6, 2025, 2:49 PM
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vs. New Testament without telling me.
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I very much do. What would you like to discuss in the Bible?
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Nov 6, 2025, 2:53 PM
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I know you aren't trying to dismiss the Old Testament, which is a usual Christianity cop out when the bad parts are pointed out. That can't be dismissed because Christians still try to cite the 10 Commandments, discriminate against homosexuals because of (a badly translated) Leviticus, and cite obviously false stories from it (like Noah's Ark and Exodus) as fact.
Since all denominations of Christianity still adhere to the Old Testament as fact and use it, these verses are valid in this discussion.
But which part would you like to discuss?
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Wait til he finds out Jesus was Jewish.***
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Nov 6, 2025, 2:57 PM
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