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Ground hog day. Its not our talent. Our OL, RB, and WRs are good enough
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Ground hog day. Its not our talent. Our OL, RB, and WRs are good enough
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Sep 1, 2025, 12:40 PM
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to compete for a Championship. Cade had ALL the responsibility against LSU, with no help by the staff with play calling or adjustments. It was not his best night - that was obvious from the beginning. But nothing changed.
Our OL played fine. For those that say that they get "no push", I don't believe you understand our blocking of angles and leverage. Pass Pro against 7 players on every play is a tall order. AGAIN, we never made it easier for them. This OL is Dabo's best.
Our RB did a remarkable job dragging three guys into the end zone. He looked the part. We never did anything creative in the run game.
I thought our WR crew wasn't great with the slightly off target throws. No complimentary stuff there, but nothing that I saw helps them get into space with the ball.
Our offense has no window dressing, no wrinkles, misdirection, etc. Its an offense that any high school in America could implement in a month. It's the Clemson offense since 2012 ish without the motions or multiple formations.
Watching pretty much any other team this weekend, you could see WAY more production from less talent but more creativity. Our staff believes this scheme can still work without TL or Watson.
Tough to watch this Ground Hog's Day. Go Tigers (especially the offense!)!!
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Re: Ground hog day. Its not our talent. Our OL, RB, and WRs are good enough
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Sep 1, 2025, 12:58 PM
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I get some of that but I think we didn't give LSU's defense enough credit and they handled our OL. Credit needs to be given to LSU for their game plan and being the more physical team. Giving someone credit is not a sign of weakness, it is a sign of reality.
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Orange Blooded [2356]
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Very true, I believe they have an elite defense but to the
Sep 1, 2025, 1:12 PM
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OP's point, how many times did the announcers talk about LSU's creative ways to change looks on offense? How many times did they say that about ours? I know it's just an over simplification by an upset fan( I confess) but it just seems our offense lacks creativity and adjustments.
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The credit I give LSUs defense is that they did what they did from play 1 and
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Sep 1, 2025, 1:45 PM
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kept doing it over and over again. They didn’t need to make a single defensive adjustment because as has been said numerous times, we never adjusted to what they started the game with.
It was clear their plan was to send 5-7 guys on every play regardless of down and distance.
You can’t run the ball straight into that blitz. We tried a few times early tho, I guess just for kicks and giggles, but we obviously didn’t once modify the running play calls and instead chose to just give up. I don’t get it Garrett?
And then as we proceeded to pass the ball for 70% of the game, we ran mostly the same longer developing plays that allowed the blitz (can’t block 7 with 5) to harass Cade. Granted Cade looked like a sophomore while panicking and rushing out of the pocket, but the bigger issue is we did nothing to force them to back off.
Screens. Bubble passes. Pitches to the back around the edge. Run a stretch play. Get them to back off the blitz!
Unfortunately Riley’s only plan was to have a hot receiver whereas it was Cade’s vision was poor on Saturday and he either didn’t see them or when he did he often tried forced the ball into coverage and even double coverage.
So yeah, Cade had a rough night mentally as was feared beforehand, and then perhaps more importantly Mr. Riley had no viable plan to help him with the playcalls. Dabo has made this comment as well, saying only “‘we didn’t do much to help him”. “We” is Garrett Riley.
So yeah, hats off to LSU for having a plan and sticking to it… because we didn’t force them to have to coach on the fly. The LSU DC was probably chuckling at us calling plays and allowing him to basically change nothing the entire game.
Cade better he this head on straight. This was a concern coming in, i.e., inconsistency, and it reared its ugly head in game 1.
Riley better do some studying of how you counterattack an all out blitz.
Troy is outmanned and likely won’t be able to cover our WRs. We need to run the ball tho, as this is a REQUIRED complement to the passing game. Straight air raid lite is not going to take us to elite status. Never has for anyone.
GT, FSU, Louisville, SMU, and USuC. These are teams with enough talent to attack us just like LSU did. What are we going to do about it?
I don’t know but after watching Riley call the same plays as if they weren’t attacking us with 7 guys, well, I truly wonder about Mr. Riley’s true wealth of knowledge. Nice air raid lite for sure. It can beat the heck out of lesser talent, but what is he gonna do with the next team that attacks and bumrushes the OL with equal or better talent?
Better do some googling I guess.
I don’t want to hear, “hats off to their defense” again. If we lose because they beat us even after adjusting, then hats off. But if we play into their game plan without adjustments- well maybe that will mean leave your hat on the table on the way out, Mr. Riley.
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Re: The credit I give LSUs defense is that they did what they did from play 1 and
Sep 1, 2025, 2:33 PM
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I don’t get having a crapton of analysts on staff if they can’t give you suggestions at the end of quarters. Boil down the suggestions from the staff, slip him two or three, and implement! It ain’t that hard…
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Re: Ground hog day. Its not our talent. Our OL, RB, and WRs are good enough
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Sep 1, 2025, 1:23 PM
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And that's right in his peripheral vision as well. He should know that TE is gonna roll out. Idk...Cade might just be a bust as much as I hate to say it. If you can't do this as a senior then idk when you'll ever be able to.
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Re: Ground hog day. Its not our talent. Our OL, RB, and WRs are good enough
Sep 1, 2025, 2:39 PM
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How can Cade be a bust when he is the Heisman front runner ??
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Re: Ground hog day. Its not our talent. Our OL, RB, and WRs are good enough
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Sep 1, 2025, 1:20 PM
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Sorry. I’m not good at this. I was trying to say that Cade will improve dramatically with experience.
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Would be good to believe but I'd beg the
Sep 1, 2025, 1:54 PM
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question , how much experience does he need? He's already been a starter for quite a long time. I think he just has trouble slowing the game down where his like TL and DW just seemed to naturally have.
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I'm not seeing it
Sep 1, 2025, 1:36 PM
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OL is not good enough. RB position is very weak atm, but the OL issues are obviously exacerbating that. We might get better here as the year goes on and the young backs get more experience and more reps, but we arent anywhere near championship caliber at that position right now.
And for all of the talent and hype of the WR corp, I wasn't seeing much separation Saturday night. Most throws were to receivers with LSU DBs blanketed on them. Made a few nice contested catches, but we are still struggling to get guys running free - either through scheme or just speed/talent.
This offense has a long ways to go. Cade isn't spectacular, but I dont think any position performed well on offense, including Riley.
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Re: I'm not seeing it
Sep 1, 2025, 5:26 PM
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OL is not good enough. RB position is very weak atm, but the OL issues are obviously exacerbating that. We might get better here as the year goes on and the young backs get more experience and more reps, but we arent anywhere near championship caliber at that position right now.
And for all of the talent and hype of the WR corp, I wasn't seeing much separation Saturday night. Most throws were to receivers with LSU DBs blanketed on them. Made a few nice contested catches, but we are still struggling to get guys running free - either through scheme or just speed/talent.
This offense has a long ways to go. Cade isn't spectacular, but I dont think any position performed well on offense, including Riley.
Cade threw to the blanketed receiver instead of the guy who was wide freaking open. If DW4 or TL or Charlie or even KB2 was our QB1 on Saturday…we would have won the game by 20+ points.
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Re: Ground hog day. Its not our talent. Our OL, RB, and WRs are good enough
Sep 1, 2025, 1:53 PM
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Correct me if I’m wrong. We didn’t run the ball a single time in the 4th quarter. How do we expect to win with no running game?
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Absolutely agree***
Sep 1, 2025, 2:29 PM
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Re: Ground hog day. Its not our talent. Our OL, RB, and WRs are good enough
Sep 1, 2025, 2:33 PM
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Disagree about RB. We don’t have anyone remotely close to LSU’s #29
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