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Loss means nothing, probably best team we play all year.hopefully the staff
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Loss means nothing, probably best team we play all year.hopefully the staff

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Aug 31, 2025, 7:17 PM
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Learned valuable lessons last night and we improve week to week

We still got a ten win team and playoff spot is there for the taking

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Aug 31, 2025, 7:20 PM
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GT and FSU will be tough

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GT, FSU. Louisville, SMU, and USuC are all challenging in ways.***

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Aug 31, 2025, 9:38 PM
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Aug 31, 2025, 9:45 PM [ in reply to Re: Loss means nothing, probably best team we play all year.hopefully the staff ]
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GT did not look that good to me. FSU did.

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GT plays tough football and will try us. Their QB is a talented gamer and makes

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Aug 31, 2025, 10:06 PM
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things happen.

GT will be ranked in two weeks and you know their staff will have them ready to punch us in the face and test us.

If we don’t man up then GT could very well beat us.

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Aug 31, 2025, 7:22 PM
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As long as we can stop Sellers I believe we good now and LSU is definitely the top team on the schedule. FSU may give us a good game as will maybe GT,SMU and Louisville but I think we pull from them as the game goes on. Hopefully we can meet LSU in the playoffs and redeem ourselves.

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Aug 31, 2025, 7:39 PM
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I do not see a 10 win season from this team. Offense is not that good when pressured. Our line is less than great.

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Aug 31, 2025, 9:33 PM
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It is this kind of attitude that is sinking the program. It is just a half step away from the losses counted as moral victories in the Bowden era.

The ACC is dying and Clemson needs to be a competitive option for realignment. Losing repeatedly to mid-tier and lower tier SEC teams at home does not help.

Where is the pride in defending our home field? Hello?! Wasn't 'who has the 'real' death valley on the table last night? Pretty sure it was and pretty sure we got punked!

It is never OK to lose. Period. No conditions, no exclusions, no exceptions. Winning should be the expectation everytime you take the field. It should define the way you practice, the way you game plan, and everything else you do to prepare for the game. It's the 'eye of the tiger'.

Look around! Read the CDS comments from the presser tonight. Reflect on everything else around the program. It's just like this OP, it's lost the will to win. There is no desire to chase the precision, accuracy, acumen to secure a NC. They're just going through the motions of a system and process that used to be a way to win but has jumped the shark. The innovation that brought us 2016 and 2018 is long gone.

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Woooow. You exaggerate much?

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Aug 31, 2025, 9:39 PM
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Dabo, the staff, and the players don’t desire to win?? That’s crazy talk man.

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Aug 31, 2025, 9:44 PM
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They obviously don't want to lose, and i don't think that's necessarily what he meant. This team lacks swagger, confidence and toughness. They didn't look inspired last night nor did they play with intensity or urgency. Go back and watch our elite teams from the teens and how they played and acted compared to this team and teams of late.

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Re: Woooow. You exaggerate much?

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Aug 31, 2025, 10:02 PM
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I agree with the loss of confidence and swagger with the team. It's just not there. DJ had none. They look like they're thinking too hard most of the time.

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Dabo teams are soft unless there is a ruthless coordinator present.

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Sep 1, 2025, 9:57 AM
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When Chad Morris arrived, he talked about needing to instill toughness. Our team was transformed when he instilled his philosophy. Venables did the same.

Since Venables left, we have gotten soft again.

Don’t get me wrong, our guys work their tails off and play hard. But when the chips are down, I don’t feel that they have that extra level of toughness that you need in those moments. It’s not their fault, it is something they should be taught to have - and they aren’t getting it.

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Sep 1, 2025, 7:41 AM [ in reply to Woooow. You exaggerate much? ]
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You didn't read. They desire to win. The post clearly states that they have lost the will to fulfill that desire. The other posts did a great job detailing examples to support the argument.

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Aug 31, 2025, 9:47 PM [ in reply to Re: Loss means nothing, probably best team we play all year.hopefully the staff ]
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The acc has actually held its own this weekend very well … fsu dominated bama, we went toe to toe with lsu in a game we could have won in a top 10 matchup, Miami is on the verge of putting ND away… tech who is middle of the pack of the ACC at best just have scar all they could handle for 50 min just let it get out of hand late… and scar has all this hype and a top 15 team… fsu won’t jump in the top 10 but we should have 4 in the top 12-14 I would imagine.

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Aug 31, 2025, 10:36 PM [ in reply to Re: Loss means nothing, probably best team we play all year.hopefully the staff ]
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acc dying? lol GT, while no powerhouse played well yesterday, took down a big12 team... fsu manhandled sec icon alabama... nancy state beat a decent ecu team, miami is looking great against the domers... nd needs to either be IN or out of the conference, they play a largely acc schedule. cal beat oregon state, and virginia stomped the coastal coots.

Had our OL showed up last night, the game would have been very different against a fellow elite team.

You talk like you don't expect the other team to put up maximum effort.

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Sep 1, 2025, 7:52 AM
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It has nothing to do with playing record. The ACC's demise is already signed and sealed in a TV deal that provides significantly less money than it does to other conferences. Did you forget about that? Eventually those missing millions will add up and it will be time to go where the payout is competitive.

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Sep 1, 2025, 11:44 AM [ in reply to Re: Loss means nothing, probably best team we play all year.hopefully the staff ]
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We haven’t lost to mid and low tier sec teams. LSU is the best team or second best in the SEC. SC was in the top half of the SEC last year.

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Aug 31, 2025, 9:41 PM
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"Learned a valuable lesson last night"

These are all lessons that should've been learned last year...and the year before that....and the year before that....

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I hit a boiling point last night. Watching us do NOTHING to adjust to the LSU


Aug 31, 2025, 9:46 PM
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blitz has me concerned. I’m not sure Riley is going to learn anything new. Dabo is basically calling him out for lacking a commitment to run and a lack of adjusting, but I’m not sure how you tie that to the previous 4 years. Everything else we saw last night can and will likely improve.

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Re: I hit a boiling point last night. Watching us do NOTHING to adjust to the LSU

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Aug 31, 2025, 9:58 PM
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Are you delusional guy? I don't mean to insult you, truly I don't. But if you cannot understand how this is tied to the last four years and keep telling yourself this will improve when in the last four years it has stayed completely stagnant, then I don't think you have opened your eyes to the reality of where this program is at currently.

But sure, I'll give you this, we will probably look better against ACC competition. So then everyone will get the false sense that we are improving and coming together to be an elite team because we are beating up on inferior talent. Once we face more elite competition it will look just like it has the last few seasons.

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You must not reading many sports articles

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Aug 31, 2025, 9:41 PM
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Clemson is getting roasted.

Can't beat the SEC. 0-4 and counting. 3-8 last 11 meeting.

Clemson is nothing special just got lucky with 2 great QBs. (I disagree but it's going around)

Espn is already calling memorial stadium fake death valley.

Clemson can't beat the big teams.

And more. This is all I'm seeing all over social media. Not saying they are right, but when you come up short every single time you face a top program people will let you know. Yes things will get better but beating Syracuse by 90 will not regain the nation's respect.

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We have GT, FSU, Louisville, SMU, and USuC that will present challenges.


Aug 31, 2025, 9:59 PM
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Win them and we play another good opponent in the ACCCG. Not sure why you chose to focus only on Syracuse? This team can be very good. The defense will be elite by the end of the season and the biggest internal challenge we have is whether or not Riley can learn how to adjust. Dabo basically called him out saying we didn’t run enough and we didn’t do enough to help the offense against an all night 5-7 man blitz. That’s a direct indictment of the playcaller in charge. Thats the biggest question in our program.

Biggest issues since 2021:

2021 - DJU
2022 - DJU
2023 - a young undeveloped Cade K.
2024 - defense and lack of offensive adjustments
2025 - (so far) lack of offensive adjustments

These are the reasons we haven’t been elite since 2020. Even still we were one win from a 4 team playoff bid in 2023 and we made the 12 team field in 2024. If our defense was sound in 2024 we advance out of Texas.

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lol. Worry about lady coot tennis ball.***


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Sadly, it sounds a lot like that word used to describe us in the past.

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Sep 1, 2025, 10:01 AM [ in reply to You must not reading many sports articles ]
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Aug 31, 2025, 9:42 PM
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The WAY we lost means something. Way more holes to address than I would have ever thought for a team that returned the most experience in the country.

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Aug 31, 2025, 10:00 PM
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We returned a lot of players but those players just aren’t that good. It’s a direct reflection of our recruiting classes. Need better players. But that won’t happen so get used to what you’re seeing

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What holes exactly ?


Aug 31, 2025, 10:03 PM [ in reply to Re: Loss means nothing, probably best team we play all year.hopefully the staff ]
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The QB who regressed into his sophomore season in reads and coolness under pressure, or the lack of the OC to counter rhe 5-7 man blitz all night? The OL didn’t do well, but too they were outnumbered all night. The OV did nothing to help.

Those holes?

Cade can and will returner to form. Riley I’m just not so sure as of now.

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Re: What holes exactly ?


Aug 31, 2025, 10:17 PM
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We are absolutely lost with the run and the game plan looks freelanced. Very chaotic and reactive. And the usual suspect of the lack of effective in game adjustments, in addition to those you mentioned.


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Aug 31, 2025, 9:43 PM
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Nottre DAme lost to Northern Illimous last year and end up playing for the National Title. No telling what happens.

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Aug 31, 2025, 9:50 PM
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Harder to do if you have no running game. ND had one of the best backs in the country. Time will tell…

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Aug 31, 2025, 9:57 PM
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Exactly. Luckily that was his first start ever and Gideon Davidosn may get going and figure it out vs Troy. Then we have to pray we get by Gtech. Then we can get rolling.

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Aug 31, 2025, 9:50 PM [ in reply to Re: Loss means nothing, probably best team we play all year.hopefully the staff ]
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This is a great point and reminder.

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Aug 31, 2025, 9:52 PM
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It means everything. I get you're being optimistic, but these lessons should have been learned way before this game. This was supposed to be the year this team finally put it all together. Instead they came out looking uninspired, unconfident, and played with no intensity or swagger.

This team has no identity or any of the intangibles required to do what the teams in the teens did. We will go on to beat most ACC teams and look good doing it, so then everyone will say look how much we have improved. Then when we play another high level team we will have a similar result to last night.

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Aug 31, 2025, 10:07 PM
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That you Dabo?

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Aug 31, 2025, 10:11 PM
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Of course it’s the best team you will face, you have no other ranked teams you will even play besides SMU and SC.

Winning 10 games could be a breeze if everything goes well for you. But you will likely lose at least 2 more games this year.

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Sep 1, 2025, 11:53 AM
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I think you’re wrong. I believe FSU, Louisville and Georgia tech could all be ranked when we play them. Along with SMU and SC. That would be 6 total ranked opponents.

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Aug 31, 2025, 10:26 PM
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A loss never means nothing. For one, Win the Opener is literally a stated goal. What an uncompetitive take.

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Sep 1, 2025, 7:43 AM
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Yep 👍🫡👍

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Why do we have to learn lessons every year in game 1?***


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Sep 1, 2025, 8:07 AM
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Looser mentality

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Sep 1, 2025, 9:11 AM
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That's the problem though, isn't it. We can win Q10 games a season because our primary competition doesn't have quite a much on field talent. So we are just mailing it in now? When was the last time we played like were ready for our first game? Maybe the O line wasn't as bad as it looked because our coaches called no run plays? Maybe Cade isn't so average but the coaches were too busy trying to hit the home run? Didn't matter, the O wasn't ready to play and that falls on Dabo and Reilly.

It was embarrassing.

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Is a 10 win season and auto bid to the playoffs good enough?

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Sep 1, 2025, 9:14 AM
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Given the lofty predictions for this season, including what some said are three top 10 NFL draft picks for 2026, I’d say no - especially given how much money and resources we devote to the football program.

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Sep 1, 2025, 11:41 AM
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Why after 15 years does Dabo have to learn from a loss instead of preparing his team before the game ? This is the same old narrative for
Last several years it is old and tired now . Dabo is not a good coach and maybe not even a good CO in this new world of portal and NIL. Results so far don’t look good for him .

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Sep 1, 2025, 11:50 AM
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Our fans sound like Furman or the Citadel after they lose to the one P4 opponent on their schedule. Well this should help us when we play our Southern conference schedule. (in our case the ACC). We should be winning these non-con p4 games and our fans should accept no less. Tired of the excuses for Dabo. Time for him to adapt with the money he is being paid.

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