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TNET: Clemson looking to build continuity on O-line
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Oct 10, 2023, 1:00 PM
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Re: TNET: Clemson looking to build continuity on O-line
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Oct 10, 2023, 1:57 PM
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I just don’t get it. Coming out of fall camp it was said that 10 to 11 guys on the offensive could start at any time. Now which is it? The offensive line just can’t seem to block and stay on the block plus can’t seem to push anyone out the way. Are they that weak?
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Re: TNET: Clemson looking to build continuity on O-line
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Oct 10, 2023, 2:08 PM
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These guys are talented, young and inexperienced, but are playing at a high level. Even better next year!
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Re: TNET: Clemson looking to build continuity on O-line
Oct 10, 2023, 2:28 PM
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To answer the question are they weak. Yes,they are weak. Strength and conditioning are a problem for injuries and ALL positions all over the field. Go Tigers! Fight!
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Just simply not tough and mean enough. Oline is
Oct 10, 2023, 4:36 PM
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A lot about ATTITUDE!
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Re: TNET: Clemson looking to build continuity on O-line
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Oct 10, 2023, 5:11 PM
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Agreed. A lot of the players on offense are going to finally be ready for a great year in 2024. Meanwhile, it occurs to me why so many of us on Tigernet are extra grouchy 6 games into this season: Admit it: Many of us (certainly me) just assumed that from the get-go this season, we’d see an offense very different (and more exciting and successful) under Garrett Riley than what we had with Brandon Streeter.
But with an offense that still has not jelled, we are in a state of shock. And the most pessimistic of us worry that we could lose at least 3 more games this season, giving us the worst regular-season record we have had in, what, more than a decade? And this after hiring the Broyles Award winner for Top Assistant Coach of the Year (Riley) and being ranked 9th in the preseason AP poll? Florida State (whom we should have beaten) is now ranked 4th; UNC is ranked 12th; and Duke is ranked 17th. Meanwhile, we have vanished.
What was it the fans used to say in Brooklyn about the Dodgers: “Wait’ll next year!”
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Re: TNET: Clemson looking to build continuity on O-line
Oct 11, 2023, 11:16 AM
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Our offense has developed over the past 3 years to where our biggest need for improvement are at QB; WR is the best since the end of the 2020 season, but still needs to get better.
QB position does not necessarily have a young player with great HS stats to be a ready-to-be-a-star as a college QB as we were blessed with from the D.Watson and T.Lawrence years.
CK2 clearly needs more time to develop and master the QB position. He very well might develop into a Kenny Picket or Russell Wilson type player. Neither of these guys were super duper starting with their FR years. Both developed nicely and were winners as upperclass QBs.
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Re: TNET: Clemson looking to build continuity on O-line
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Oct 10, 2023, 2:27 PM
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Our O-line has been an issue for several years now. We need to address that on the coaching level. Same with the development of our Wide Receivers. Those are the two glaring that have been plaguing us since Higgins left for the NFL.
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Re: TNET: Clemson looking to build continuity on O-line
Oct 11, 2023, 10:02 AM
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I agree...coaching seems to be an issue at certain positions. But we also need to change our playbook. I really thought we would get to see something besides wide receiver screens (95% unsuccessful) and really short out-routes in the passing game. Heck,let's go deep!! Even if we don't get the completion, there's a good chance we get the interference penalty. It will also loosen up the defense for the run game.
Like most, I was really looking forward to a much-improved offense this year. But, I really don't see any major difference in our playbook or play-calling. One only needs to look at the success that DJU is having at Oregon State to see that our offensive philosophy needs a major change! No point in hiring a great offensive coordinator if you're gonna tie him down to the same-old laid-back approach. Let's get aggressive!! Go Tigers!!!
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Re: TNET: Clemson looking to build continuity on O-line
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Oct 10, 2023, 8:26 PM
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Don't really care about the " Building continuity " talk, I'd just settle for them being able to get a push and stop allowing defensive penetration on numerous 3rd & 1 situations
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Re: TNET: Clemson looking to build continuity on O-line
Oct 10, 2023, 8:46 PM
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This should have been the strategy since 1923, oh and lose the pink!
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Re: TNET: Clemson looking to build continuity on O-line
Oct 11, 2023, 11:17 AM
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Pink is for breast cancer awareness. We wear pink armbands and such one game per year.
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Looking to build continuity?
Oct 11, 2023, 8:38 AM
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This goes beyond the online. Before Austin, we had Caldwell - and in 10 seasons he put 6 players in the NFL.
Our Oline needs an oline coach, not a Dabo yes-man from his player-coffers.
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Re: Looking to build continuity?
Oct 11, 2023, 8:45 AM
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What yall gonna say when the Oline starts playing better.. If the O isn't looking better after a bye week against Miami I'll start worrying..
Go Tigers!!
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Re: Looking to build continuity?
Oct 11, 2023, 11:07 AM
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The O-Line of 2023 looks the best it has been since following the 2019 season.
In 2020 we had such luminaries on the O-Line as Mason Trotter playing meaningful minutes.
Two of our current OL studs were at that point very young: Will Putnam = true sophomore. Walker Parks true FR.
One of our current OL key backups, Mitchell Mayes, was a true FR.
RS sophomore Jordan McFadden, true JR Jackson Carman, RS junior Matt Bockhorst, Fifth year SR walk on Cade Stewart, and Will Putnam were starters, with M.Trotter and the very young Walker Parks being key backups.
For 2020 season, Jackson Carman was a star at LT. Bockhorst was our second best O-Lineman; he was a good player at RG. McFadden was still developing, although he was good. Same with Putnam. C.Stewart made the best use out of his limited abilities. Parks did the best he could from his not-yet-developed body.
For 2021, due to no one who was really ready to play Center, we took Bockhorst (very good at guard) and moved him to center (this didn’t work). We then tried M.Trotter at Center; he was not physically able up to this job. Eventually we elevated Hunter Rayburn, an after thought on the OL depth chart, to center. Putnam was good at guard, Parks as true SO was good at RT, McFadden was very good at LT. RG and Center were a mess.
This year, we have excellent players at LT, LG (Marcus Tate will play in NFL), C (Putnam still has a chance at NFL as a center, he ‘s got to play up to his ability on a consistent basis), Parks was rounding into form as an excellent RG (but then he got hurt), and FINALLY Blake Miller has stated playing up to the level of his natural talent. Our biggest problem has finding consistency among the RG candidates who have replaced Parks. We have the talented depth to fix this problem.
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Re: TNET: Clemson looking to build continuity on O-line
Oct 11, 2023, 12:57 PM
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Until this happens our offense is going nowhere!
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Re: TNET: Clemson looking to build continuity on O-line
Oct 11, 2023, 1:06 PM
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I never played OL back when I did play football, so I know I'm no expert on the positions. I watch every game and overall I believe our OL is serviceable, but not great. My reasoning is simple - Cade doesn't get sacked a lot and at times the run game flashes. However, when was the last time we had an OL go in the first round? Which OL currently on the team will be a Day 1-2 pick? I don't know if we're missing on scouting/recruiting, or is it coaching/development? Either way, without better OL play our offense will struggle to be great.
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