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Can we talk Deshaun a second?

Aug 19, 2022, 8:52 AM

I think this kind of applies here since I don't want to get all over the Mange with it and it's too serious for the Lunge. I choose here because I draw some parallels to this case and the Kavanaugh one.

I've had a lot of problems with this case. I still do. I know people instantly write Deshaun off as guilty because of the volume of accusations, and that's where I really have a problem. In short, what's the cut off number of accusations for our society to automatically determine someone is guilty without a trial or evidence? 20? 14? 9?

Deshaun MIGHT be guilty--none of us ####### know. But if he's not, this is travesty and dangerous for our society.

A lot of facts from this case make me dabble into the CharlestonTom/SOLOs level of conspiracy thinking:
-As soon as Deshaun becomes one of the top paid QBs in the NFL and then demands a trade from the Texans, the accusations start to come out.
-All women lawyer up with this sleezy Houston attorney--this is unusual for them all to have the same lawyer.
-He's good friends with the Texans owner, something both he and the lawyer lie about publicly.
-He lies about turning cases over to the Houston PD. They confirm it's a lie.
-Prosecutors take 11 cases to the grand jury. They're all thrown out. If a grand jury won't let a case advance, it means the prosecution has failed miserably in providing evidence.
-Deshaun gets an even bigger contract with the Browns... then more accusations come out.
-Texans owner is a Dirt ######. I mean, someone has to say it.

I draw this back to Kavanaugh. I posted about him during that ordeal, and I said that even though I didn't really care for the guy, I didn't want to see a man's reputation destroyed over an accusation with no evidence. In a situation like his, for the good of America, we MUST err on the side of the accused.

I know this is a bad look for Deshaun. Twenty four accusations makes you believe SOMETHING has to be there. But see... that's the problem. That gets us back to my earlier question: What is the cut-off number where we just automatically assume guilt? Because that's not how our justice system is supposed to work.

Most of the time, when a woman accuses someone of any kind of sexual assault, she's telling the truth. But most of the time isn't good enough to automatically assume guilt without evidence. I point back to the case in Virginia where Rolling Stone got their faces sued off by a fraternity because a woman fabricated a rape story. It happens.

I've tried not to be tainted with orange-colored glasses over the Deshaun situation. If it were anybody else, I've asked myself if I would have the same reaction, and I'm not really sure the answer. But I still hold that something has stunk about this from the beginning, and it still stinks.

I had a friend yesterday say Deshaun should lose a year for every woman he raped. And that highlights the public's ignorance on this case; Deshaun hasn't been accused of ###### anyone. People look at the headlines, listen to soundbites of hype, and pass judgment automatically.

That, to me, is disturbing for everyone, famous or not.

And I'm still not taking those framed Sports Illustrateds off my wall...

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Look, I've been on the train for years this was an invention of Tony Buzbee and Cal McNair, the CEO-but-not-owner of the Houston Texans.

Buzbee's a total scumbag. He made his money on the Deepstar Horizon disaster, and is a high-profile ambulance chaser who once ran for mayor of Houston and got caught making fake videos of his opponent. The dude is a liar and a scumbag.

Cal McNair took the Texans over after his dad died, and he's a clown who was getting a rep as the man who was running the Texans into the ground. People were definitely starting to talk. And here's the rub - while he was the CEO, he's not the owner. His mom Janice inherited the team when her late husband Bob - Cal's dad - died...and mom could fire him if he did a bad enough job of it. And articles like this were starting to emerge:

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/jerome-solomon/article/Solomon-Texans-deplorable-state-begins-with-16506521.php

Solomon: Texans’ deplorable state begins with Cal McNair

The players were, without question, terrible in Sunday’s 40-0 shellacking at Buffalo....

In the midst of this swoon, McNair got his pants pulled all the way down, and panic-hired a new coach without first consulting with Deshaun as he had promised to do. Deshaun had secured the Tom Brady promise and wanted a say in the direction of the offense. Once that promise was broken, it was apparently the last straw for Deshaun, who demanded to be traded and refused to play for McNair or Houston again.

Oh, and big surprise: Cal McNair lives right across the street from Tony Buzbee, and their families hang out together.

Maybe it's just coincidence. Or maybe McNair, aware he was the author of an epic disaster that would relegate Houston to the laughingstock of the NFL and potentially get him fired even by his own mom, decided to either apply pressure to Deshaun, get revenge for his comeuppetance and put the employee in his place...or maybe deflect blame for the whole mess onto Deshaun and away from himself. Or all three. And maybe Buzbee decided to turn Deshaun's well-known love of the honeys into something...more.

Buzbee's always been good at creating spectacle, and making much of a muchness without any ability to deliver, well, anything, has always been his M.O. Just throw mud until the mark settles. Deshaun has refused to admit guilt or settle even when it was to his advantage to do so. And then when you consider that Ashely Solis is the face of the accusers...well, you decide. I mean, this kind of struck me as a high-school-rendition-of-Death of a Salesman-level bad, as far as acting jobs went. I mean, yeesh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbZlLBTO1B4

Can we talk Deshaun a second?

I blame Mia Khalifa

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This plus, what the heck

i kind of agree...but you also have to weigh...

i kinda agree with your kinda agreement

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that last part ain't happening

what i assume happened

To me it seems like just another case of cleatchasters

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Yes, women are no different than men in their ability...

as a cis gendered white male, you don't get a say

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my only problem I see is the tv pundits flat out sayin

Re: my only problem I see is the tv pundits flat out sayin

Watch the Manti Teo doc. The biggest takeaway is how POS the

Re: Watch the Manti Teo doc. The biggest takeaway is how POS the

the 2nd episode is where it gets crazy***

if the media pundits say anything differently, they

Re: my only problem I see is the tv pundits flat out sayin

GMAFB... a sanctimonious scammer broadcasting from Vegas

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He's a sick pervert, I like it***

Well, he sure comes in handy

Conspiracy Theorist !!!... ;~)***

I got into a huge thing on the mange about this yesterday.

I'll trade with him right now.***

Life is full of trade-offs.***

The most glaring issue to me is that over 20 women

Lotta good responses, no need to reply to them all

Like most controversy, two things can be true at once:

I'm trying to figure out when it became a crime to ask for a

im going to push back on that thought

Re: Like most controversy, two things can be true at once:

When there is ever a doubt, I choose money.

not guilty

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