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Last time A&M won a national title 1939, last conference title 1998
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Sorry but A&M isn’t the job it’s made out to be, despite its big money. It’s actually comparable to SMU, both have big money donors but both have been middle of the road programs throughout their history.
Texas oil money doesn’t guarantee success in college football. And besides there are only two states that have more than one program that have been powerhouses. That’s Alabama with Bama and Auburn, and Florida with the Gators, Miami, and FSU. Even as big as Texas and California is, the Longhorns and Trojans have dominated those states and have never lost their grip even through down cycles.
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TCU made the CFP NC last season
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Nov 15, 2023, 4:39 AM
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though they probably shouldn't have. Texas hasn't made the playoffs. All the P5 California schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, and Stanford) have been mediocre in the playoff era.
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Re: TCU made the CFP NC last season
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Nov 15, 2023, 7:06 AM
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As much as I dislike the little cooters, I wish they could have a respectable football program to put SC on the map with AL and FL. While we have won 3 natties, countless ACC championships, and more bowl games than they have ever been to.... they have only one conf championship, one SEC east division, and their first bowl win EVER came in 1995 in the Carquest Bowl when Brad Scott was their head coach.
Pick it up chickens....
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Re: TCU made the CFP NC last season
Nov 15, 2023, 7:08 AM
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Coot
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Where is TCU this season and where is Texas. Im talking bout consistency.
Nov 15, 2023, 8:43 AM
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not single season success
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That aTm yell-squad would have to give CDS a serious pause to think about
Nov 15, 2023, 7:15 AM
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…how long can any coach protect his players from that sideshow during the game?
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Re: Last time A&M won a national title 1939, last conference title 1998
Nov 15, 2023, 7:33 AM
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I think with the right coach at aTm, they could be a playoff contender each year.
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Just watch that Johnny football documentary on Netflix
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Nov 15, 2023, 7:47 AM
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You will learn all you need to about the culture that pervades every aspect of that school and program
Their donors are a bunch of total idiots who happened to be born on land with a crap ton of oil under it
They will do anything ( lie cheat or steal ) to beat Texas
The way they treat their players there is sickening - they are the reason the NIL and transfer portal exist
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Re: Just watch that Johnny football documentary on Netflix
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Nov 15, 2023, 8:35 AM
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You will learn all you need to about the culture that pervades every aspect of that school and program
Their donors are a bunch of total idiots who happened to be born on land with a crap ton of oil under it
They will do anything ( lie cheat or steal ) to beat Texas
The way they treat their players there is sickening - they are the reason the NIL and transfer portal exist
You based that all on the Johnny Football documentary? Man, that's quite the reach. I watched the same documentary and didn't come away with any of that. Seems you might have some misplaced anger.
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Re: Just watch that Johnny football documentary on Netflix
Nov 19, 2023, 1:35 PM
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What documentary were you watching?
Summlin and Klingsbury didn't give a crap about that kid. He had to go to the NFL - the NFL! to find anyone that cared about his wellbeing apart from football - the NFL!
And the boosters / administration foster and encourage that environment - football above all else.
And they went and hired Jimbo Fisher to put their dumb money where their dumb mouths are!
So, I'll forgive you because you must have fallen asleep 10 minutes into that documentary
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Re: Last time A&M won a national title 1939, last conference title 1998
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Nov 15, 2023, 8:32 AM
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Sorry, but you're completely off on that hoss, and the comparison to SMU is asinine, as one has 20 conference championships at the P5 level, while the other has 5. Sure, they haven't had a conference title since 98, but let's not act like we didn't go through a similar drought before hiring the right coach. A&M would be contender with the right coach. They recruit just fine, and always have, and even more so with NIL. Also, Texas has not dominated Texas in a very long time, and hasn't consistently done it since Bob Stoops got to Oklahoma (notice how Mack Brown only had 2 conference championships in his time at Texas, whereas Stoops had 10 conference championships). So in actuality, the state of Texas is more than capable of supporting 2 dominant teams, just one of those teams doesn't always reside within the state of Texas.
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Re: Last time A&M won a national title 1939, last conference title 1998
Nov 15, 2023, 8:39 AM
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Correct Txtiger!! Texas and ATM domination of the state of Texas football ceased when they stopped playing each other yearly, took their golden footballs and went home. Neither school has been consistently dominated since. OK, LSU, Bama, OKST, FSU, et.al., including Clemson, get top talent out of Texas these days. That was never the case when UT & ATM played each other.
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Re: Uh The Longhorns are the best team out of Texas this season***
Nov 15, 2023, 8:59 AM
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Ok, and your point? Last year it was TCU, so Texas is not dominating the state, and A&M has had a better record than the longhorns, while playing in a tougher conference, in 6 of the 11 years since they split up. It's nice that the longhorns are finally showing a pulse, but they're not the juggernaut you're claiming, and haven't been since the 60's as evidenced by that 1 national title in 50 years and playing second fiddle to OU in their heyday under Mack. The right coach at A&M will have them as contenders.
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Re: You do know that Oklahoma is a state itself
Nov 15, 2023, 9:14 AM
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You do know that Oklahoma, just like SC, does not produce enough D1 talent, let alone elite D1 talent, to field a good-great football team. Texas recruiting is their lifeblood, so it is very tied in with the success of the Texas schools, and was my point in mentioning OU in the first place.
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Re: I was talking about schools in Texas, not who has more
Nov 15, 2023, 9:04 AM
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And what I'm explaining, is your reasoning is off. Where do you think a majority of that players on the OU roster come from? Not from Oklahoma. Just like most of our roster isn't from SC because neither of those states have the talent to sustain a dominant P5 roster. The state of Texas has enough talent to have at least 2 dominant teams, and those are going to be 2 of the 3 out of Texas, A&M, and OU. I was also pointing out, that at no time since the 1960's, has Texas been dominant. They put up a lot of wins under Mack, but there's a reason he was known as coach February.
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Re: Last time A&M won a national title 1939, last conference title 1998
Nov 15, 2023, 10:46 AM
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Not really off. A&M has "12" 10-win seasons in HISTORY. We are just coming off 11 in a row. They also only have one in the past 20 years or so. So the point about A&M money buying them NOTHING is exactly correct.
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Re: Last time A&M won a national title 1939, last conference title 1998
Nov 15, 2023, 8:48 AM
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It's just like the old saying, "too many cooks spoil the broth". Until the Board, AD, Boosters, and others stay out of the HCs way and let him run the program, "efficiency and quality" will not be achieved.
Basic business
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Its the best job in college football for a coach that can build a program
Nov 15, 2023, 10:31 AM
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all the ingredients are there in abundance.
Huge fanbase, huge money, top tier recruiting base.
If they ever find someone with Dabo's attitude and ability they will dominate.
Also, I recommend going there for a game, it's a great experience.
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Re: Its the best job in college football for a coach that can build a program
Nov 15, 2023, 11:48 AM
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I live in San Antonio, so I think I have a pretty good handle on the situation. UT stuff is everywhere - especially this year. A&M stuff, not so much. To me, nationally, A&M is still living off Johnny Football and 2020 covid year. Take away the 2 years Johnny was the starter and the covid year, and A&M is just an also ran. Since 2003, excluding those 3 years, A&M has a record of 125-99. That’s a winning percentage of 55.8%. Meh. Even if you add in the 3 good years, their record is still only 154-108. That’s still only a 58.8% winning percentage. Yes they have money. Yes they have a huge stadium. Their accomplishments aren’t that great.
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