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Letterman [281]
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Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 16, 2023, 10:21 PM
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Anyone know if that's something that improves with gaining weight. Love the intangibles he brings but his lack of arm strength gives him much less room for error.
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 16, 2023, 10:23 PM
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Yeah it killed us during UNC game didnt it. CK is fine.
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Letterman [290]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 16, 2023, 11:52 PM
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Did you not watch the Orange Bowl? He heaves up prayers on the long ball. Teams will figure it out and they'll turn into jump ball INT's.
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Rock Defender [72]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 17, 2023, 7:21 AM
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And I'd much rather see that then what we got before him. Just standing there like a deer in headlights until you're sacked at best, or fumble at worst.
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Rival Killer [2698]
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Yea - I'd rather have a 40 yard int like a punt, than pick 6***
Jan 17, 2023, 8:41 AM
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Paw Warrior [4872]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
Jan 17, 2023, 9:03 AM
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In the bowl game, Klubnik did start to remind me of Cole Stoudt: 1 second in the pocket, roll right, throw back across the field. Kid needs to learn to stay at home for another beat or two, because there were open receivers that he abandoned.
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CU Medallion [20956]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 17, 2023, 11:27 AM
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It’s almost like he was a true freshman and got zero protection. Y’all act like Trevor/Deshaun were perfect from the jump the kid got all of two games with a lot of playing time, the game will slow down for him.
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Orange Blooded [3508]
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This ^^^^^ 100%***
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Jan 17, 2023, 11:36 AM
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 16, 2023, 10:24 PM
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He’s was above average for a freshman. He’ll get stronger. Looking forward to his leadership and enthusiasm over the next couple of years.
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CU Medallion [20956]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 16, 2023, 10:26 PM
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It’s impossible to build up your muscles to have more arm strength duh, but it’s almost like Cade has pinpoint accuracy to make up for what he make “lack” in arm strength. So far he hasn’t had issues making the throws he needs to ?♂️?♂️
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Game Changer [1989]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 16, 2023, 10:35 PM
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I don’t think this is true (building muscle for greater arm strength is impossible) because why would anyone bench press or do curls etc…. Also, rotator cuff exercises can benefit arm strength immensely.
No, I am not a doctor or kinesiologist, but I did stay at a holiday inn last night.
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CU Medallion [20956]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 16, 2023, 10:46 PM
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Ummmmm sarcasm ?
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Game Changer [1989]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 16, 2023, 10:50 PM
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Never try to confuse a drunk man.
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Tiger Spirit [9478]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 17, 2023, 5:55 AM
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Thanlks for your medical wisom "can't build arm strength", Dr. Spurrier. I'm also having a rectal problem, would you take a look?
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CU Medallion [20956]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
Jan 17, 2023, 11:27 AM
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Oh my lord I was being sarcastic ???
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Rival Killer [2833]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 17, 2023, 11:17 AM
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In school there were ways to increase arm strength. But it’s terrible for your elbow. Like long tossing with a baseball or penny ball. But Cade also has plenty of arm strength. He throw a ball 55-60 yards in the air against unc. He may need to work on trajectory of the ball but like you said he has been fine. I read a report from David hood in a pregame that Cade was zipping all of his throws. Arm strength definitely isn’t a concern. People make mountains out of mole hills.
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 16, 2023, 10:28 PM
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No doubt about it, can’t wait to see him have a full year kid is special
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Dynasty Maker [3488]
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We could have used one of those in the
Jan 16, 2023, 11:13 PM
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Orange Bowl. That was purty
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Clemson Icon [26511]
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That remains one of the most entertaining
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Jan 17, 2023, 3:21 AM
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plays I can recall, as I horse-laughed at Turner's wobbles trying to get into the end zone.
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I have found if I watch Poorn and eat Cheetos
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Jan 16, 2023, 10:28 PM
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I put on weight and get arm strength
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Letterman [281]
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Re: I have found if I watch Poorn and eat Cheetos
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Jan 16, 2023, 10:28 PM
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Lol
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Re: I have found if I watch Poorn and eat Cheetos
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Jan 16, 2023, 10:40 PM
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Glad I was between sips ?
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 16, 2023, 10:32 PM
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I herd he can throw a egg and nock the beek off a chickin from 50 yds away.
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110%er [9905]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 16, 2023, 10:37 PM
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Good nuff for this Tiger fan! Go Tigers!
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Clemson Sports Icon [54565]
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Too bad he didn't get to try and do that
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Jan 16, 2023, 11:00 PM
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Against the chickens. Would have been fun to see.
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National Champion [7557]
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Also would have been fun to win...
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Jan 17, 2023, 12:28 AM
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that game, which is exactly what would have happened if CK had been playing QB in the 4th quarter against the coots.
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Orange Elite [5430]
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He can throw a football....
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Jan 16, 2023, 10:38 PM
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over that mountain...and coach put him in
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Paw Warrior [4898]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 16, 2023, 11:04 PM
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He definitely needs to improve arm strength. Some of his deeper balls have a bit too much arch. That will improve the stronger he gets
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Recruit [97]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 16, 2023, 11:09 PM
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Riley thinks his arm is strong enough. Riley knows Klubnik’s abilities really well and has bet on his arm strength and more.
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CU Medallion [19258]
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One of my favorite techniques as a high school QB
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Jan 16, 2023, 11:15 PM
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was practicing with the carbon steel football. More of a shot put than a spiral -- but really built up the old arm strength. But Cade will be good even without this subject matter expert technique.
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Clemson Icon [27125]
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Re: One of my favorite techniques as a high school QB
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Jan 17, 2023, 7:23 AM
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I’ll bet the hard part was in the catching them…
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Rival Killer [3053]
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Marginally
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Jan 16, 2023, 11:32 PM
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Arm strength can be improved but he's not going to get DJ or Trevor's velocity (they are freaks).
That said, what he has is enough. Even with the moon balls he's pitching, with experience, those are going to be pretty home run balls with hopefully the WR on the end of it is taking it to the house or making a highlight play similar to what Cole Turner did in the past two games.
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Re: Marginally
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Jan 16, 2023, 11:46 PM
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I see no problem with him throwing the ball. Just needs more experience.
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Re: Marginally***
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Jan 17, 2023, 12:27 AM
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He won’t have TLs arm but can match DWs. Question is, can be make the decisions DW did?
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Orange Phenom [14535]
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Re: Marginally
Jan 17, 2023, 8:27 AM
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Good post glenjamin. The "moonball" is my biggest concern. Moonball is not a 50/50 ball attempt. Seems to put too much air under it on the long ball which seems to have it come up short at times. Just my two cents.
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 16, 2023, 11:50 PM
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What? He has pretty good arm strength
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National Champion [7557]
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Enjoy that one point win...
Jan 17, 2023, 12:25 AM
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because Klubnik and Co. will be there in November to collect rent in Cootlumbia and show you he has the arm strength to fry chicken.
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Yes, it will improve some as he gets stronger.
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Jan 17, 2023, 12:28 AM
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I don’t think his arm strength is a problem though. It’s more about trajectory (he currently throws a higher deep ball than we’d ideally like him to).
A lot of it has to do with mechanics, which can certainly be improved with good coaching.
I’m not worried about Cade.
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 17, 2023, 1:12 AM
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He doesn't have the most conventional grip either. He doesn't grip the laces like most QB's which takes a bit off his throws. He does throw a pretty ball but I hope Riley gets him to trust gripping the laces so he can sling it with a little more oomph occasionally.
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Dynasty Maker [3451]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
Jan 17, 2023, 9:04 AM
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Where’d you get that from? On plays like the bubble screen, coaches tell you to get it out of your hand as fast as possible. You don’t take time to find the laces. On longer developing plays I’m sure he grips the laces.
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
Jan 17, 2023, 11:29 AM
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Him being comfortable throwing without laces is one of his good qualities, your not going to be able to get to the laces every snap. He’s been taugh and is comfortable throwing it how he’s needed to.
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 17, 2023, 1:32 AM
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Don’t remember any of the reviews from the Elite 11 that he won say anything about him having a lack of arm strength. As far as his deep ball having too much air under it, that’s not a sign of a weak arm and can be fixed with changing his release point. I’m actually glad he puts some touch on the ball and doesn’t throw a 90 mph fastball on some of those short passes like DJ did which were generally too hot to handle. The kid is going to be fine and his mobility is going to be a difference maker.
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 17, 2023, 5:28 AM
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After reading all these posts on here re: Cade's lack of arm strength, he throws the long pass too high and he doesn't grip the laces, I am now convinced more than ever that Tnet is comprised of football illiterates who know little about football and nothing about throwing a football. CK2 is virtually identical to DW4 in every way, including arm strength. People should not voice opinions about things they have never done or know nothing about. They make themselves look ridiculous with this constant nitpicking.
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
Jan 17, 2023, 6:28 AM
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I'm very excited about next year with Cade and Riley. Would like to put the DJU days behind us and get back to the playoffs. I like how the defense is looking with the new guys and TD, XT, Ruke, and the others deciding to comeback for another run. GO TIGERS!!!
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Rival Killer [2755]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
Jan 17, 2023, 6:33 AM
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Move along, nothing to see here.
GO TIGERS!!!!!
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 17, 2023, 7:17 AM
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in his defense a few of the long throws he had lineman in his face and couldn't step into the throw.
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I'm more interested in timing, instincts, and touch for our
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Jan 17, 2023, 8:25 AM
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QB. We've had arm strength and it doesn't really get you much if you don't have the other 3. Maybe in the NFL you have to have elite arm strength but in college you need to have the other 3.
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Re: I'm more interested in timing, instincts, and touch for our
Jan 17, 2023, 9:02 AM
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I only know two things that are pretty much impossible, you can't drink yourself sober and you cant borrow your way out of debt. Heard it from a friend.
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CU Guru [1598]
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Jan 17, 2023, 9:03 AM
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247 High School scouting report on Cade:
"Good height with a lean, athletic, somewhat narrow build. Mechanics have noticeably improved with reps and experience. A natural at the position. Competitive but calm and poised. One of the most accurate passers in the class whose ball placement and touch stand out. Good pocket awareness with functional athleticism to extend plays when necessary. Good athlete when he gets loose in the open field. Increasingly impressive improvisational ability as an off-schedule playmaker. Varies velocities and touch deftly. Can make all the throws, whether over-the-middle, intermediate bullets, or field-stretching deep balls. Outstanding production vs. Texas Class 6A competition for state championship-caliber team. Impresses in live game action and elite camp settings. Competed in track and field (400 meters, triple jump, long jump) earlier in high school. Occasionally will take unnecessary chances, but owns an exceptional INT rate over a full two seasons starting. Undoubtedly one of the top 2022 quarterbacks in the country. Projects as a multi-year impact starter at the high-major level with NFL Draft high-round potential."
Nuff said!
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Orange Blooded [2566]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
Jan 17, 2023, 10:58 AM
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Joe Montana says hello.
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
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Jan 17, 2023, 3:27 PM
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I have seen nothing that would make me question his arm strength.
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Orange Beast [6162]
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Re: Klubnik arm strength
Jan 17, 2023, 3:59 PM
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No idea why we are talking about the arm strength of a guy we all saw heave it 65 yards in a game. I doubt DJ or TL ever had a pass cover more ground than that in the air while at Clemson.
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