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CU Medallion [19364]
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K Gunn appears to be mentally & psychologically wrecked
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Jan 4, 2024, 2:17 PM
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Will Robert Gunn be under full scholarship in 2024 with Nolan Hauser arriving to take over kicking responsibilities?
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His scholarship is guaranteed for 4 years
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Jan 4, 2024, 2:18 PM
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but he could choose to give it up and transfer.
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Re: His scholarship is guaranteed for 4 years
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Jan 4, 2024, 2:20 PM
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Scholarships are renewed yearly and can be pulled at anytime.
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Ring of Honor [22971]
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Not at P5 schools. They all have guaranteed 4-year football scholarships
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Jan 4, 2024, 2:21 PM
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that can't be taken away for performance-related reasons.
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Re: Not at P5 schools. They all have guaranteed 4-year football scholarships
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Jan 4, 2024, 2:24 PM
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This is true on the pulling for performance but can be pulled for a multitude of other reasons related to academics, quitting the team or University policy violations.
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Ring of Honor [22971]
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Right, but there's no reason to think that Gunn would have his pulled
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Jan 4, 2024, 2:25 PM
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for any of those reasons you mentioned.
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Re: Right, but there's no reason to think that Gunn would have his pulled
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Jan 4, 2024, 2:27 PM
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I agree with you and don't believe Clemson would stoop this low, but you can find any reason to violate a kid based on a violation of university policy. Probably every student violates a policy at some point. The student policies, which there are hundreds of them can be tedious.
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Re: Not at P5 schools. They all have guaranteed 4-year football scholarships
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Jan 4, 2024, 2:48 PM
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He signed a 4 year National Letter of Intent which guarantees his scholarship for 4 years
It cannot be revoked for athletic performance.
It can be pulled for academic reasons or for detrimental conduct. But that needs to be enforces equally without prejudice.
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Re: Not at P5 schools. They all have guaranteed 4-year football scholarships
Jan 4, 2024, 2:37 PM
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They don't all have guaranteed 4 year scholarships. P5 schools signed off that IF a guaranteed 4 year scholarship is offered it cannot be revoked for on-field performance, but can be for other reasons. This only applies to players that received a 4yr scholarship when they signed their NLI, but very few schools offer such scholarships even though in 2012 the NCAA allowed it. The reason being, schools want the ability to drop a player who underperforms. I don't know of any Clemson player on a 4 year guaranteed ride, but I also don't know if/where such information would be published. A basic Google search in my limited time at work didn't show it.
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Re: His scholarship is guaranteed for 4 years
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Jan 4, 2024, 2:22 PM
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SCHOLARSHIPS ARE A ONE YEAR THING. GUNN WAS HURT A GOOD PART OF THE YEAR. IT HAD TO EFFECT HIS FG'S
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Ring of Honor [22971]
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Football scholarships are not a 1-year thing at any Power 5 school
Jan 4, 2024, 2:24 PM
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Coaches at Power 5 schools can tell you that you'll never see the field and you should transfer, but they can't just pull your scholarship because you aren't good enough at football.
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link?***
Jan 4, 2024, 2:32 PM
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Re: Football scholarships are not a 1-year thing at any Power 5 school
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Jan 4, 2024, 2:33 PM
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Man. That’s a real dinger to deroberts claim to be some sort of super insider. All P5 conferences have done guaranteed scholarships in all sports since 2015.
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Re: His scholarship is guaranteed for 4 years
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Jan 4, 2024, 2:42 PM
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Well, well, you learn something new every day. I had no idea the rules changed. If kids get guaranteed 4 year schollies then there should be consequences for them jumping ship to go to the portal.
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Athletic scholarships are absolutely NOT guaranteed for 4 years...
Jan 4, 2024, 3:47 PM
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They are renewed by the schools on an annual basis.
There are some coaches, like Dabo, who will often honor scholarships for four years, but they most certainly aren't guaranteed.
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Every P5 school has guaranteed them for 4 years since 2015***
Jan 4, 2024, 3:52 PM
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Orange Immortal [67583]
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They are still subject to an annual renewal.***
Jan 4, 2024, 4:43 PM
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Re: His scholarship is guaranteed for 4 years
Jan 4, 2024, 5:20 PM
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You sure about that? How is that possible when players can leave whenever they want?
No shot this is accurate. They are yearly
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I'm sure he will be back on schollie and he did a good job on kickoffs.
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Jan 4, 2024, 2:20 PM
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Hopefully Hauser will be an excellent kicker that can take over fg kicking. Fingers crossed.
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Game Day Hero [4512]
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Re: K Gunn appears to be mentally & psychologically wrecked
Jan 4, 2024, 2:21 PM
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I'm sure that question will be decided during the Spring
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Re: K Gunn appears to be mentally & psychologically wrecked
Jan 4, 2024, 2:21 PM
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Competition always helps!
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Re: K Gunn appears to be mentally & psychologically wrecked
Jan 4, 2024, 2:21 PM
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Competition always helps!
NC stole our backup kicker and beat the coots!
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Orange Beast [6180]
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Re: K Gunn appears to be mentally & psychologically wrecked
Jan 4, 2024, 2:23 PM
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I wonder what happened to that kid? I have watched him kick in practice and he is a remarkable talent. Sure would like to know what ruined him for game days.
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Re: K Gunn appears to be mentally & psychologically wrecked
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Jan 4, 2024, 2:30 PM
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Yips?
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I'm glad none of y'all are coaches***
Jan 4, 2024, 2:31 PM
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Re: I'm glad none of y'all are coaches***
Jan 4, 2024, 2:41 PM
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There are no Clemson Football kicker coaches.
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Orange Blooded [2468]
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No team has one***
Jan 4, 2024, 3:28 PM
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Orange Blooded [2468]
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They have special teams coaches which is different
Jan 4, 2024, 3:31 PM
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But I was mainly talking about handling players in general. Handling their psyche, their lack of confidence, etc. None of these poasters have a clue on how to do that.
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Ring of Honor [23707]
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Wasn't he just a freshman this year?
Jan 4, 2024, 2:32 PM
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And you're writing him off. I guess that's the new portal mentality.
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CU Medallion [19364]
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Re: Wasn't he just a freshman this year?
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Jan 4, 2024, 2:38 PM
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And you're writing him off. I guess that's the new portal mentality.
It's up to Gunn. He fell apart this year. And Swinney has brought in the best freshman K in the country to take his place. IMHO last year Liam Boyd looked better than Gunn.
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Where do you get that he's "mentally and psychologically" wrecked?
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Jan 4, 2024, 3:05 PM
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I don't think he's even attempted a field goal since before the FSU game, so he hasn't had any opportunity - or not much of one, anyway - to "redeem" himself from the first couple of games.
Being a kicker is probably 40% psychological and the rest form and technique, which gets down to all sorts of minutia that the average player doesn't have to worry about. A kicker has to have a strong psyche to excel. Maybe he doesn't have that. Maybe he does. May be that's it's just too soon to tell.
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Re: K Gunn appears to be mentally & psychologically wrecked
Jan 4, 2024, 3:08 PM
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I wouldn’t worry about the 4 year scholly. After Gunn gets beat out for the starter’s job in the spring, he’ll hit the portal.
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Re: K Gunn appears to be mentally & psychologically wrecked
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Jan 4, 2024, 3:18 PM
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Soc, do you have a mind reading booth at County Fairs? Unless you are close relative of Robert Gunn you have no idea what he thinks. By the way, none of us have idea how Nolan Hauser will do until he does it.
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Re: K Gunn appears to be mentally & psychologically wrecked
Jan 4, 2024, 3:35 PM
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I do have a mind reading booth at county fairs Valley Boy ... job well done. But in this case, I do not care what Gunn thinks. I'm pulling for him as the Clemson kicker and looking for him not to be the most ineffective kicker in the conference. Just make the play.
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Come on, man. He was a freshman who wasn't ready for the pressure.
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Jan 4, 2024, 3:26 PM
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It doesn't mean he's "done". He's got the skill. Let's just let him work it out and hope he can contribute moving forward.
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Clemson Conqueror [11815]
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Give the dude a break. Have you ever tried kicking a field goal?
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Jan 4, 2024, 3:29 PM
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I think anybody that has step foot on a football field with the cross bars have attempted a field goal and know it’s not easy. I think I’d be pretty automatic on extra points myself. But that is just me thinking that on a practice field. Line me up for a 30 yarder for $5000 in Death Valley at halftime and I know I’ve got the leg for it but odds are I’m gonna shank it.
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Re: K Gunn appears to be mentally & psychologically wrecked
Jan 4, 2024, 5:27 PM
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From what I heard from someone that had classes with him he had a lot of growing up to do. They stated he seemed very immature. May explain where his head is.
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CU Medallion [18415]
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Dude. That's some pretty heavy wordage to throw out there about a kid
Jan 4, 2024, 5:51 PM
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playing ball here. Do you have a lick of insight or inside info or is it just his missed kicks early season? He's been showing up every single day for practice and sticking KO's in the end zone game after game regularly since getting benched. Wrecked in his brain and psyche? C'mon, guy. We can do better.
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