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Scout Team [157]
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Clemson, FSU to Big 12
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Re: Clemson, FSU to Big 12
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May 2, 2012, 9:17 AM
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Dreaming is fun.
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Scout Team [157]
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just remember you heard it here first...***
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Re: just remember you heard it here first...***
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May 2, 2012, 9:37 AM
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Back it up with something.
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Scout Team [157]
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cant...id blow my source and lose all my ins later on
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May 2, 2012, 10:20 AM
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but its happening
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CU Guru [1053]
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^^^ Source = Honus "The Dude" Sneed
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May 2, 2012, 11:01 AM
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We've all read eerinsider.com, too!
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Re: ^^^ Source = Honus "The Dude" Sneed
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We've been telling people this since January. Some Big 12 contacts have been confirming this to me for months. People laughed in January, now peoples ears are perked up. The ACC isn't going to have a seat at the table after June's BCS meeting.
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Re: ^^^ Source = Honus "The Dude" Sneed
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chuck at it again huh. has he gotten anything right yet. if so, what.
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CU Guru [1210]
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It amazes me how many are so opposed to this move
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May 8, 2012, 6:10 PM
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Why on earth do you want to stay in this weak a@@ conference. If we want to be big time in football then this is the move to make. The big 12 adding us,fsu and wv could give the sec a run. If we want to play big boy football we have to leave this high school league.
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Re: It amazes me how many are so opposed to this move
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Oh don't get me wrong. I want out and out fast. I just was asking for some proof, if he had any.
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Re: It amazes me how many are so opposed to this move
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Indeed. There are so many ACC homers on this board it makes me want to puke. Bottom line is we won't have a ticker to the big dance if we stay.
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Trade UNC and Duke for Texas?
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May 2, 2012, 9:25 AM
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Still not sure about that.
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I'm not sure about that, either...
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May 2, 2012, 10:16 AM
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The grass on the other side is always greener, but maybe that's where the dogs are shi++ing. Texas may be (and probably is) worse than anything we have in the ACC. Moving to the Big XII could be jumping out of the frying pan into the fire. Maybe it would work out, but I'm not so gung ho about it as some people. The Big XII will always be unstable as long as UT is there, and UT runs that conference. Just my opinion.
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CU Guru [1431]
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^^^ Very smart post. (NM)***
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May 2, 2012, 10:30 AM
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Legend [17458]
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Thanks...
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May 2, 2012, 10:44 AM
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I don't always borrow my rhetoric from Soundgarden, but sometimes it just works.
Nice username, btw. Sounds like you definitely own guns 
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Re: Thanks...
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May 2, 2012, 10:50 AM
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Nah, just a surfboard...
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Some killer curlers in Utah !***
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Legend [15749]
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I can see us going. We could go to the Baylor regional.
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May 2, 2012, 9:26 AM
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But FSU will certainly be hosting a regional, so I can't see them going to a Big 12 campus.
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Well played and I
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May 2, 2012, 9:29 AM
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couldn't "bear" us going to Baylor. 
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LOL. No way do we join a conference where the closest
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May 2, 2012, 9:34 AM
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away game other than FSU is more than a 1,000 miles.
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Re: LOL. No way do we join a conference where the closest
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you are forgetting WV
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Orange Blooded [4640]
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Factor in current/future travel to FSU, Miami, Pitt, BC and
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May 2, 2012, 9:50 AM
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'Cuse...it is not much more since they will have to come to us also. USCuCk is still close, as well as other local non-conference games.
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Legend [15749]
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There is one, maybe two schools in the ACC farther than the
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May 2, 2012, 11:00 AM
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closest Big 12 school (aside from WV).
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CU Medallion [73569]
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Does that mean Venables will once again avg
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May 2, 2012, 9:35 AM
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22pts per game again? ugh. At least our offense will play against horrible D's tho.
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Point for Strongbad!***
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I remember when I got in the paint cabinet for the first tine
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May 2, 2012, 9:47 AM
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Time . Hope you are right though
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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That would be a terrible move
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May 2, 2012, 9:47 AM
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There's a reason that schools like Nebraska and A&M wanted out.
I hate dealing with UNCheat and Dook in basketball and the questionable officiating. But in bball, everyone still gets a fair shake if/when they make the NCAA Tournament. In football, we don't really have to worry about those clowns.
If we went to the B12, we would have to deal with Texas. That's a force that no other school wants to deal with because of the influence they have on their conference. As much as I hate the ACC, I'd rather stay for now. However, if the BCS ever has an extended football playoff (more than just 4 teams), then I'd reconsider.
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Re: Re: LOL. No way do we join a conference where the closest
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And to add to that we would bring 1 or 2 others so we would have a few more closer have A big 12 east and west deal and you would only have 2 long away games
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All-In [27366]
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And Obama's gonna be president of the John Birch Society
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May 2, 2012, 9:57 AM
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in December.
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Orange Blooded [2989]
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Why would we trade what we dislike for Texas - OK/OkState
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May 8, 2012, 5:50 PM
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halfway across the US, in the middle of nowhere?
You think Nebraska & Texas A&M left for any reasons in particular?
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Re: Why would we trade what we dislike for Texas - OK/OkState
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No one seems to be able to address that issue...if teams from the big 12 have jumped ship, what makes us think its such a sweet deal. The ONLY reason we should consider the move is if the ACC stays mediocre in the football aspect and we move to playoff, I don't want us to be left behind.
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Orange Blooded [2989]
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Agreed, but most of this is frustration & internet paranoia
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May 8, 2012, 6:17 PM
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I don't think a major conference with FSU, Clemson, Miami, & VT is ever going to get left behind.
Nor one that has UNC / Duke in basketball.
Think about it.
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Re: Agreed, but most of this is frustration & internet paranoia
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When you posted those names and I looked at them all aligned I think to myself "how in the heck have we come to this point?" Schools in the ACC still have a chance and as much as it pains me, I pull for Clemson first but for the sake of our future I just want one d@mn team in the ACC to win a NC!!
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Re: Agreed, but most of this is frustration & internet paranoia
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May 8, 2012, 7:30 PM
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Also people are blinded by this past season in the Big XII.
Baylor/Ok St./Iowa St./Kansas/K-State have never been good at football. They are having a good run now, but what happens when they come back down to earth?
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When they come back down to Earth, they will still be better
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than 10 of the 14 teams in the ACC...
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Re: When they come back down to Earth, they will still be better
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Still? There are already 8 ACC teams with better overall winning percentages than those 4.
5 Oklahoma........0.7153.....Big 12
6 Texas...........0.7143.....Big 12
17 Miami (FL)......0.6317.....ACC
22 Virginia Tech...0.6094.....ACC
24 West Virginia...0.6014.....Big 12
28 Georgia Tech....0.5956.....ACC
33 Clemson.........0.5912.....ACC
36 Boston College..0.5839.....ACC
52 Texas Tech......0.5619.....Big 12
54 North Carolina..0.5596.....ACC
67 Texas Christian.0.5322.....Big 12
69 Virginia........0.5292.....ACC
71 Maryland........0.5278.....ACC
80 NC State........0.5074.....ACC
83 Oklahoma State..0.5045.....Big 12
86 Kansas..........0.5017.....Big 12
87 Baylor..........0.5004.....Big 12
95 Duke............0.4856.....ACC
104 Iowa State......0.4566.....Big 12
113 Kansas State....0.4389.....Big 12
121 Wake Forest.....0.411......ACC
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Nice but where is FSU?***
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May 8, 2012, 7:49 PM
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Re: Nice but where is FSU?***
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FSU #13 with a .6641 winning percentage.
So that makes 9 teams. Add Pitt and Syracuse and the number becomes 11 of 14.
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Re: You think Duke is a better program than KSU? Nice try...***
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in the 1930's they were
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Re: Nitpicking I see
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That is why K-State loves Synder.
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Re: Nitpicking I see
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I was joking with that comment...but K-state has had more success in recent years than Duke.
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And Duke had ONE good year under some dude named
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May 8, 2012, 11:27 PM
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Spurrier...I'll take KSU's resume over Duke's...
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CU Guru [1895]
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Anyway the point is
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May 8, 2012, 8:45 PM
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The Big XII is in no way head and shoulders above the ACC like some here believe. The ACC's problem is that it has not had the top level NC contender over the past 10 or so years.
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Re: Anyway the point is
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So...The Big 12's BCS record of 9-10 is not above the ACC's 2-13 BCS record?
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CU Guru [1895]
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Where did I say anything about Texas and Oklahoma.***
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Re: Where did I say anything about Texas and Oklahoma.***
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Oklahoma State, Kansas, and Nebraska(when they were a member) won BCS games other than OU and Texas.
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Legend [16158]
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So, Kansas has hallf as many BCS wins as our ENTIRE
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Conference? And it came against our conference champion...Another nit to pick...
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Re: Anyway the point is
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Yeap...The ACC has to have a NC championship soon to survive falling further into conference obscurity.
Call me old fashioned (even though I'm not old) I think the teams in the ACC still have great tradition and history. The foundation for a rise once again IS there. A NC or good bowl showing vs. SEC, Big 10 or 12 would do a lot for our image.
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Re: Anyway the point is
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I think that the thing is, the ACC did not get in this shape overnight and it will take some time to fix it. The national media seems to fall in love with FSU every year, it would help if the Noles have a great year. To me it will take us and the Noles winning some big games. We can start with AU and we have to avoid the 2-3 bad games that we seem to have every year. We need to regain the fear factor by spanking the Coots in our house and winning a BCS bowl.
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hahahahaha***
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Merrick places bet or just talks chit?
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Chittalk.
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Re: Clemson, FSU to Big 12
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we can sure dream!! our salvation!!
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Re: Clemson, FSU to Big 12
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All TCU fans would welcome you guys to the Big 12. Still have friends talk about all the fun they had.
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Big twelve what? Big Twelve-pack?***
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Re: Clemson, FSU to Big 12
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You are crazy. Next...
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Re: Clemson, FSU to Big 12
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Big twelve is controlled by University of Texas. That is why Texas A&M left. Clemson will not leave the ACC. How many fans will travel west? I live in Austin Texas and Clemson needs to stay in the ACC.
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