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Re: Josh Pate on Clemson fans
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He is not wrong. I actually agree with his take. Tbe difference in our
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Re: Josh Pate on Clemson fans
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Sorry, the difference in our program is our inability to write large checks for the top blue chippers each cycle. People lash out when tbe truth is spoken on tbis website. Clemson could win at a high level going fieward, but the level of recruiting is gonna make it true uphill sledding.
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Tiger Titan [50638]
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It is not an inability but an unwillingness.
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Feb 18, 2025, 7:53 PM
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We are having top 25 recruiting classes in basketball because our coach is willing to embrace NIL. We are having success in the transfer portal for the same reason.
And that is despite our historical lack of success in basketball, at a school that doesn’t prioritize hoops like many of our competitors do.
If Brad can do it, Dabo can too. If Dabo is smart, he will learn from Brad and follow his example.
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Bless your heart
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Feb 18, 2025, 8:25 PM
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it must have been pure agony year after disappointing year watching the train Wreck of Clemson basketball until last year. Undercutting our football coach has been your only solace. Pretty sad.
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Tiger Titan [50638]
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Basketball at Clemson hasn't been a train wreck in quite some time.
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I'd say over 20 years, when Shyatt was our coach.
Saying that Dabo could learn some things from Brad about portal and NIL utilization isn't "undercutting" Dabo, it's the truth.
Do you actually think that Dabo cannot be questioned? Because that's how it sounds.
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Oculus Spirit [42270]
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Dabo working with Brad on his vocabulary:
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Feb 18, 2025, 8:37 PM
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Word of the day “Championship”. Used in a sentence: You have to win a Championship to be a Champion.
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Rival Killer [2708]
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How dumb do you have to be to think that Dabo
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Feb 18, 2025, 8:52 PM
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should listen to Brad about winning championships. I've got lint in my pocket smarter than that
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Team Captain [476]
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Not quite the same thing. I would guess there is less NIL money for Clemson
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basketball than there is for football but it has to go to less players as well. I'm glad the basketball team is doing well and I hope that continues into the future. Getting 2 or 3 high school recruits and filling yearly gaps with 2 or 3 transfers can be a good way to ensure continuity while filling holes in scoring, or defense, or rebounding or whatever. The average football recruiting class is supposedly 25 players with many more variables to address than in basketball. While Brad deserves credit for what he has been able to put on the court for the last 3 years (I'm including 2 years ago because we should have been in the dance in my opinion) Dabo has many more spots to fill with more competition for limited elite players. It's not an unwillingness to use the portal, it's the difficulty of finding players who would improve the team and fit the program. The only player close to elite on the bb team is Chase and he has developed that over six years. The others are very good college players, that may play in Europe, who have blended together very well, in my opinion. Go Tigers!
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Re: It is not an inability but an unwillingness.
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Stupid #### like this shows you just hate Dabo. The football team has 22 starters. All of which expect to be paid. The basketball team has 5 starters and only needs 3 to 4 solid backups. So, at the most 10 players being paid. Apples to oranges and you know this. You’re a clown and a troll. I love our basketball team AND our football team.
Looooser
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Re: It is not an inability but an unwillingness.
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For the most part- our 3 deep in football could get money elsewhere if we don’t pay them. I know from a pretty reliable source that one of WR who barely saw the field last year for 50k excuse other schools were offering him more to leave.
It’s more like we have to pay 66 players NIL in football and probably 10 in basketball.
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Suggesting that Dabo learn a few things from Brad is hating him?!?
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Feb 19, 2025, 9:26 AM
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Wow.
Yes, football has more players. It also has a larger pool of potential players from which to choose, and more money to go around to pay those players.
Why all the excuses for Dabo? Other college football coaches are making this work. There is no reason he can't as well, other than stubbornness.
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Orange Blooded [2258]
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Re: Suggesting that Dabo learn a few things from Brad is hating him?!?
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Feb 19, 2025, 10:02 AM
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Other schools are making this work because they are utilizing more funds towards their football program and they also have BOOSTERs that put in millions of dollars and former players are funding as well. How many Clemson former players are putting money back into the school? Everyone is saying open the check book, but how much money is in there? How much money realistically do we have to fund these rosters. Also these youtube guys are talking #### like they know how much money is in the school and we are just being negligent. Is this true? I doubt it. Dabo has always wanted HIS guys. The guys he recruit for his culture. Going in and getting a day one starter could destroy the team if he isn't the type you want. Its a ###### if you do ###### if you don't situation. We would win and be like FSU or we could lose and end up like FSU. Which one do you want?
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Tiger Titan [50638]
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That is quite the false dichotomy you created there.
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Feb 19, 2025, 10:42 AM
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There are plenty of guys who are great players, good citizens, and capable students who we could add to our roster and not harm team chemistry. I know, because we recruit them from the high school every year.
The notion that these players are not also available in the transfer portal is ludicrous.
It is also ludicrous that such players are unattainable for a program like Clemson. We have an alumni base that gives at one of the highest rates in the country, who also support the football program well. There is clearly plenty of money available to pay coaches top salaries and build outstanding facilities. All of that money didn't come from TV contracts, ticket sales, and merchandise sales.
This idea that we have a poor alumni base that just can't keep up with the "big programs" is stupid. It's not true, and it is used as an excuse when we don't get a recruit or don't use the portal. Please stop.
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Orange Elite [5499]
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Not one team has become elite via the portal. The elite teams
Feb 20, 2025, 2:47 PM
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haven’t really changed since NIL. That and Clemson does extremely well with NIL, but we choose to use it for retention, not for taking a scattered approach at signing guys who quit their last team.
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Re: Suggesting that Dabo learn a few things from Brad is hating him?!?
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Dabo is making it work. Still winning the conference and making the playoffs as often as any other team out there. Most rational people would consider that success. Trolls will say the coach’s salary should dictate the team’s final ranking every year.
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Tiger Titan [50638]
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Perhaps we have different expectations for the program.
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For all of the money we spend on our program, most notably having one of the highest paid coaching staffs in college football, I believe our sights should be set a little higher than simply winning the ACC. We have tremendous advantages over other teams in the conference, so we should beat most of them every year.
The level at which we support the program suggests that we should be competing nationally. But lately, we aren't. For example:
-We are 0-5 in our last 5 games against top 5 teams.
-We are 7-7 in our last 14 games against top 25 teams.
-Our recruiting classes per 247Sports have been less highly ranked, from 5th in 2021, to 10th in 2022, 11th in 2023, to 11th in 2024, to 26th in 2025.
While it is great to make the new 12 team playoff, we only got in because we won the (weak) ACC. We were not a top 12 team at the end of the season and would not have gotten in otherwise. Moreover, once we got to the playoffs, we lost to our opponent by 14 points.
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Re: Perhaps we have different expectations for the program.
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I think we have a different view of a lot of things. And from my point of view, that is a very good thing.
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Orange Elite [5499]
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Wow. Youre really getting a lot out of one successful basketball season.
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If we don’t meet or surpass an elite 8 season, then this year is a failure, right? We spend a ton of money, we have great facilities and have for some time, we pay our coaches well, and the favs support a good product.
Your logic says we need to make the elite 8 or it’s a failure.
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Orange Elite [5499]
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Dabo is one of the best in the business by far.
Feb 19, 2025, 3:35 PM
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2021 and 2022: mediocre QB with DJ
2023: developing Cade Klubnick
2024: defense- the only showing of a “poor” hire.
We are 6th in the country on power conferences winning over the years above.
Dabo is perhaps the most accomplished active coach. He doesn’t need “excuses”.
When Brad accomplishes half of what Dabo has, let us know. How many championships does Brad have, for one?
Your divisive Dabo trolling is not factually based.
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Re: Suggesting that Dabo learn a few things from Brad is hating him?!?
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JK, You been Rip Van Winkle? We have two Nattys, 9 Conference championships, and great player retention. All thanks to Dabo. His limited use of the portal now is correct. Look at the big winner.
What did they lose 38 million in their atheletic Department? You don't question Dabo, you excoriate him. If you ain't got a legitimate comment or something nice to say, go play on the Coot Board. Most of us IMO are sick of your DDS, and negativity.
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Re: It is not an inability but an unwillingness.
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That’s completely idiotic. Dabo keeps winning ACC championships when Brad can only dream of it. I couldn’t let that one go…
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Tiger Titan [50638]
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How many of the other teams in our conference have our commitment to football
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and support it accordingly administratively, financially, and as a fan base?
The answer is zero.
Florida State is close, but not quite on our level in those metrics.
The other schools are way behind.
We have a lot of advantages in football. We should be one of the best teams in our conference every year. Our issue is getting back to being a factor nationally, which we haven't been since 2020.
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I didn't realize the size of both the...
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football & the basketball program's respective rosters are relatively equal....who new?..people, don't believe your lying eyes..85=15
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Orange Elite [5499]
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1. We choose to focus more on retention. 2. ACC basketball sucks.
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How many trolls will you be putting out today? Does it give you a sense of satisfaction to troll like a little child?
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Orange Elite [5499]
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Top 25 classes? Do what now?
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2024: 45th
2023: 70th
2022: 53rd
2021: 47th
2020: 22nd (PJ Hall was great. Lynn Kidd and Omax Prosper never did anything)
That’s an average of 47th over five years, and that’s helped with the 2020 class which two of three players didn’t want to play for Brad.
So what are you talking about?
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Facts will only confuse him...
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or simply be dismissed an anti-Brownell rhetoric. He's like the Alphabet Gang (i.e., LGBTQA etc., etc., etc.). No tolerance for dissenting views.
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Re: It is not an inability but an unwillingness.
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It is very easy to see where your heart lies. You have fooled many, but not me.
When you “praise” Dabo or our program it is a simple “Go Tigers! Great job!”
When you criticize the football program, it is usually a chapter or two of worthless/baseless arguments.
Not sure how you fool so many, but, effort shows passion. You have none for anything besides basketball. I wish you had the same for the university.
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Re: It is not an inability but an unwillingness.
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JK, Are you the Second coming of Rip Van Winkle? Get some facts, Dabo has 9 conference Championships two Nattys, and 9 wins for 14 straight seasons. What he is doing in the portal now is exactly correct. Who else has a better retention rate then Dabo? He does not need to learn anything from Brad, but maybe Dabo is rubbing off on Brad, he seems to be winning more lately, and I love it.
Remember his retention rate is better then getting a great recruit, because it keeps a good player in the system who already has knowledge.
Abd you do not criticize Dabo, you excoriate him. You DDS is gettg old. IMO
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Re: It is not an inability but an unwillingness.
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sorry, the first post just showed up also, no clue what happened, must be operator head space. LOL
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writing big checks hasn't been the real issue.....
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the willingness to do so is the encumbrance. This is now changing......
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Re: Josh Pate on Clemson fans
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He did a good job. I think for us it's just going to come down to QB in 2026. I think we are more talented than some think.
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Agreed. Getting the right QB in as the starter in 2026 is key.***
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Re: Agreed. Getting the right QB in as the starter in 2026 is key.***
Feb 19, 2025, 6:11 PM
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Have you already ruled CV out ?
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No, I havent.
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How on earth did you get that from my post?!?
All I said was that we need to get the starter right. I don’t know who it will be, if it is someone already on our team or not.
But it better be a really good one.
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Re: No, I havent.
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You said “ getting the right QB in as the starter in 2026 is the key”. To most people, the word “in” would indicate he is not already here. But as usual you play word games to try to weasel out of something you obviously said.
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Who?***
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He picked the lowest of the low hanging fruit to razz us with and doubling down
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still on his lazy take on Clemson recruiting with that segment. Thanks for sharing.
We haven't been dominant on the field the past four years, but heading into that stretch the recruiting numbers had us looking much better off, and rankings he is banking on as being our key to championships. The graphic he showed of the 'obvious problems' was a 5-year average ranking of 12.8 heading into 2025, which is 0.5 off of our 2016 title squad's, maybe better if you subscribe to the 5-year plan.
He did spout doom and gloom in his original segment that started this, which he shared, and if he had done better homework then he would have a truer take.
This sounded like cheap fun he was having at the fringe expense. Still has to fill air time for college football show programming as it's crypt style dead season right now. With moss. And creaky sounds.
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aw . he learned to pronounce Dabo Swinneys name
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moral victories
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Re: aw . he learned to pronounce Dabo Swinneys name
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Now if only he can improve on not saying Clemzzin time after time. He must be a Yankee. First I’ve seen of him. Doesn’t seem like he finishes up properly in the dressing room either..
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Re: aw . he learned to pronounce Dabo Swinneys name
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Not a Yankee. Actually just a good ole boy from southern ga... and a fertile recruiting ground for us. He's always been respectable and likes Clemson. I for one am glad his show grew up. As it's kept us in the news in our most traditional fertile recruiting ground.
Not too long ago, before streaming, you listened to football talk shows on the radio. But you, like so many on here love to launch accusations at anyone who doesn't blindly agree with your point of view. Fortunately as a 75 year Clemson fan, T-Net isn't representative of Clemson.
potatoes and gravy®
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No it's not! It's pronounced CLEM-SON!
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Aa a 74 year old alum, I know how to pronounce it!
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Re: Josh Pate on Clemson fans
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I actually like Josh Pate. I may be in the minority. I don't always agree with him but he has no allegiance to a conference and does a good job. He was always very complementary of Clemson when we were on our run, but in recent years has fallen into taking the low hanging fruit when it comes to criticism. I do feel like deep down he is an admirer of the program but will take the clicks with the easy "Dabo doesn't use the portal etc." narrative. I would be pressed to find a more objective talking head though.
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I have no problem with him but why does it seem like these internet personalities mostly respond to Clemson fans? They act like is crazy that Clemson fans will defend their coach.
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Clemson fans as a whole are more on the sensitive side.
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I am sure you've seen how butthurt people here get when Finebaum says something less than flattering about Dabo. They act like he killed a baby or something.
We need thicker skin as a fan base.
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Re: Clemson fans as a whole are more on the sensitive side.
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Now that may be the most ironic and hypocritical post in the history of the interwebs. 😂😂😂
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It isn't ironic, but it is funny.
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You see how mad people get at me, and the names I am called, because I don't participate in the Dabo cult.
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Re: It isn't ironic, but it is funny.
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Says the guy who just used the word stupid to describe someone else’s opinion earlier in this thread. Like I said, ironic and hypocritical.
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Orange Elite [5199]
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Ive always enjoyed listening to him and
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I don’t disagree with anything he necessarily said about us. This upcoming year is our best chance to get in the playoffs and make some noise.
We haven’t been elite the last four or five years. We’ve been good to great but not elite.
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I don’t know if Josh Pate is right or wrong.
I have never listened to any of Josh Pate’s videos.
I guess I just don’t see any reason to listen to Josh Pate.
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Re: Josh Pate on Clemson fans
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Feb 19, 2025, 7:34 AM
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Ùnfortunately he is not wrong....we need to step it up in NIL and the recruiting trail. This class was pretty average although I do think there are some special players in it, but not according to the rankings.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101843]
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If you don't like what he says then ignore him, not being facetious here.
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Feb 19, 2025, 8:41 AM
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Stop watching the guy and for heaven's sake stop linking his videos on Tnet. Posting links only produces more audience for him.
The guy talks for a living. Half of his food is gathered by those who believe what he says and the other half by people like you who spread his rhetoric to make people hate him.
It's the same with ESPiN. They pump the SEC and Clemson fans watch to build up hate for what they say.
STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS!
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110%er [3813]
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Re: If you don't like what he says then ignore him, not being facetious here.
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Feb 19, 2025, 9:39 AM
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^^^
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Re: Josh Pate on Clemson fans
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Feb 19, 2025, 8:58 AM
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Agree!
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All-TigerNet [5942]
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Re: Josh Pate on Clemson fans
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Feb 19, 2025, 9:20 AM
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Josh Pate. The next hooker in line to realize criticizing Clemson fans is great for clicks.
I'm not going to give him the value of watching his video but I will say based on the comments that Clemson fans do need to rally and contribute to the NIL fund. Especially with this huge deficit in conference earnings. And I hope Dabo gets involved with the call for us all to come together.
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110%er [3813]
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Re: Josh Pate on Clemson fans
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Feb 19, 2025, 9:38 AM
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He's fishing for engagement. Clicks = revenue, so don't even bother. It's the same playbook Finebaum has been using for years and for some reason, Clemson fans continue to take the bait.
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Clemson Icon [24198]
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I love Clemson and our fans are the best in some ways.... but we are babies
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Feb 19, 2025, 10:06 AM
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when it comes to criticism. He didn't say anything wrong and so many of us freak out.
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Clemson Conqueror [11723]
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Re: I love Clemson and our fans are the best in some ways.... but we are babies
Feb 19, 2025, 11:23 AM
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This is used against us time and time again.
During slow sports news time...say something negative about Clemson, Bama or OSU and you'll get all the clicks to your site that you could want.
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Head Coach [904]
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Re: I love Clemson and our fans are the best in some ways.... but we are babies
Feb 19, 2025, 12:05 PM
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Yeah JP is just pointing to objective trends in recruiting. It is not some kind of hateful anti-Clemson position to merely point that out!
He has never struck me an as an actual anti-Dabo SEC shill like Finebaum etc
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Ultimate Tiger [33356]
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Re: Josh Pate on Clemson fans
Feb 19, 2025, 10:46 AM
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Yea. We need more players that are given 5 star ratings coming out of HS like DJU and a bunch of those 5* receivers we had in those higher ranked recruiting classes that are being used for comparison. 😂😂😂
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Re: Josh Pate on Clemson fans
Feb 19, 2025, 12:00 PM
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Unfortunately Pate is speaking the truth. Dabos recruiting classes have fallen off in talent and last years class was average at best(ranked mid 30s with a lot of 3 stars). Those r the facts!
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Ultimate Tiger [33356]
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Re: Josh Pate on Clemson fans
Feb 19, 2025, 6:16 PM
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If we go back and re-rank recruits like DJU and some of the receivers that came in about that time and were all 5* guys that didn’t live up to their hype, would we still be down?
High school ratings are overrated.
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Re: Josh Pate on Clemson fans
Feb 20, 2025, 3:27 PM
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... and some of the receivers that came in about that time and were all 5* guys that didn’t live up to their hype...
High school ratings are overrated.
Which 5-star receivers were those?
(remember Ngata, Ladson, both Williams', both Collins', and Randall were all 4-star guys.)
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Orange Elite [5499]
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Our class has a higher star rating than yours. We are just short on numbers
Feb 24, 2025, 6:19 PM
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because our retention is one of the best in the country.
Meanwhile, your team lost something like 40 players so so naturally you have to sign yet another big class seeking any modicum of success. Maybe you’ll get 9 wins and lose to another scrub team in a bowl? Is that really what has you so chipper, coot?
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Top TigerNet [29721]
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Couldnt possibly care less about Josh Pate***
Feb 19, 2025, 1:25 PM
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Game Changer [1732]
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Re: Josh Pate on Clemson fans
Feb 19, 2025, 10:46 PM
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Fair take. I think he’s usually pretty straight up. Doesn’t mean that outlook can’t change.
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