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Asst Coach [884]
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Everyone complaining about Dabos pay
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Dec 5, 2024, 1:40 PM
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Should go look at James Franklin’s Wikipedia page…
1 Big Ten Championship
6-6 bowl record
10 years at Penn State
$10m annual salary
Feel free to also go look at Norvell, Ryan Day’s, Lincoln Riley’s, Mark Stoops, and Lane Kiffin’s.
Dabo has almost more Conference championships than all of them COMBINED.
He’s also got two Natty’s.
He’s not perfect, but dang it he is a great coach and has done a ton to put us back on the map.
Let’s get more hardware.
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All-In [10914]
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Re: Everyone complaining about Dabos pay
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Dec 5, 2024, 1:41 PM
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People are just jealous.
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Orange Immortal [64542]
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Re: Everyone complaining about Dabos pay
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Dec 5, 2024, 1:44 PM
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People just want more Nattys.
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All-In [10914]
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Re: Everyone complaining about Dabos pay
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Dec 5, 2024, 1:47 PM
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True. So do I. Sadly, there is only 1 per year available and we have the NIL to deal with, plus other great programs and coaches to contend with.
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Dynasty Maker [3562]
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People want us to succeed
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Dec 5, 2024, 4:43 PM
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They want high performance from staff. They want us to be competitive in all phases of the game, recruiting, NIL, Portal, etc. If we do those things, then we can compete with the top 4-6.
What most see is that we are beginning to slip. Whether that's reality or not is one's interpretation. But a top 6 program shouldn't have lost to UL, the Coots and last years' losses.
Without doing NIL and the Portal, then we have to be near perfect in every game. And that's impossible. We haven't been close since Lawrence left.
Some say we've recruited in the Portal, but how serious were we. You hear CDS's speeches to the team and talking points and I don't see much effort.
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Asst Coach [884]
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Re: People want us to succeed
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Dec 5, 2024, 5:39 PM
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Even in the years we've won it all you probably can't say we were truly elite on special teams.
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Who is "THEY" you're representing? I don't want those things at all, unless they come with a program that graduates it's players and develops better Men. Maybe try inserting "I want...." into that post. You'll see that the posts reads a bit differently. It becomes petulant. It's also the real truth. You speak for no one but yourself. "They want.." Lolol
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Re: People want us to succeed
Dec 6, 2024, 8:51 PM
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Well said my Tiger friend! “They need to move to Columbia “😂😂😂😂😂😂
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MVP [533]
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We are slipping and sliding letting negative people on our boards! Did you play pee wee football when you were in 3 rd or 4th grade No, you played soccer 😂😂😂😂😂
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Clemson Icon [27473]
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Athletic Dir [1175]
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Re: Everyone complaining about Dabos pay
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Dec 6, 2024, 1:10 PM
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Unrealistically sometimes we expect more without realizing what actually has to be done to achieve that. Coach Swinney has done a great job and considering he’s working with less right now I’d say he’s still doing a pretty masterful job. It’s totally insane to talk about this man in the same context, we’ve talked about previous coaches that could not get it done here. So let’s just pull together and trust the man has a plan because so far the only thing I see wrong is he gives an overly rose colored perception and that’s just because he’s a very positive person not because he’s trying to lie to us I think. Go Tigers Beat SMU.
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Re: Everyone complaining about Dabos pay
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Dec 5, 2024, 1:53 PM
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Good stats here. Id love a 5 year ahead glance at the college footbal landscape and see how all of this NIL and pay for play has panned out. But for right now, I still say I appreciate Dabo and all he has done for us. Hopefully we add another trophy to the case on Saturday night.
GO TIGERS!!
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Re: Everyone complaining about Dabos pay
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Dec 5, 2024, 2:18 PM
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I feel pretty sure that most complaints for Dabo come after BV and Elliott left and Dabo made several very questionable hires within that actually didn't have enough experience to coach at the same positions on a top HS team...
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Asst Coach [884]
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Re: Everyone complaining about Dabos pay
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Dec 5, 2024, 2:55 PM
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I think some of those are well merited.
Streeter is a weird one bc when he came to town we started really winning.
I think the biggest difference for our team is NIL/Portal Exits.
Think of what the defense might be like if we keep a guy like Mukuba…
That being said, I don’t wholeheartedly disagree with your sentiment.
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Hall of Famer [8208]
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Dec 5, 2024, 2:36 PM
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You don’t fire a coach like Dabo and expect karma to be on your side
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Dabo earned his pay. He went to 4 national title games and won 2. He is one of two active HC's that have won a title. That being said, I also won't shame people for demanding a higher standard. I am also frustrated by Dabo's lack of use of the portal. And I am also frustrated by his approach of most NIL dollars going to retain current players, rather than play the game everyone else is. Especially when he says we have the money, and that lack of money is not the problem. Two things can be true at once. It can be true that Dabo has earned his pay, while also being true that he needs to change his philosophy some about NIL and the portal to justify his pay. I do believe he has finally come around to the way things are, and we will see some positive changes this offseason.
PS, Goodwin is not worth his salary. And Riley has shown flashes, but needs to prove he is worth his.
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110%er [3866]
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I smell chicken Dookie with this poster. Hugely.
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Dec 6, 2024, 10:35 AM
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Go back home dirtpecker.
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Game Changer [1600]
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Re: Everyone complaining about Dabos pay
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Dec 5, 2024, 3:25 PM
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With exception of Norvell - all coached in better conferences. Our BOT got ego-wired and wanted to make Dabo even or close to Saban. Others have followed. It’s all out of whack and everyone of those guys have established foundations to turn around and give money away. They know it’s crazy.
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Solid Orange [1378]
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What's crazy is the money floated to the non revenue sports..
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Dec 5, 2024, 4:06 PM
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off the back of the football program. For example, D Staley's salary..she makes nearly half of what CDS does and their WBB is in the red annually.
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Clemson Sports Icon [55354]
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Re: What's crazy is the money floated to the non revenue sports..
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Dec 6, 2024, 12:23 PM
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But percentage wise, she probably makes less than poppie... because they have that extra money.
We don't have that much and I certainly don't understand why so many on here seem to resent our other programs.
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Our fanbase has turned into Alabama. THEY were grousing about Saban, and HE
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Dec 5, 2024, 4:12 PM
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was winning a NATTY about every other year on average, once he got going. Sooner or later, they will get their wish, either Dabo leaves because he gets fed up with the noise, or some misguided bigwigs run him off like they did Danny. Then, we will go back to being LESS than mediocre, and they will moan about that, too. But, they will have reaped what they sowed.
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Re: Our fanbase has turned into Alabama. THEY were grousing about Saban, and HE
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Dec 6, 2024, 3:05 AM
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Alabama didn’t fall far until this year. Sabin didn’t want to deal with NIL and the transfer portal.
And I can’t believe that anyone wants Dabo fired. That’s kinda crazy, but it shouldn’t be a surprise that we expected our success to continue at the same level.
It appears as though the coaches don’t have the the same fire in our recruiting as we did, and we aren’t as prepared for the games.
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Re: Our fanbase has turned into Alabama. THEY were grousing about Saban, and HE
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Dec 6, 2024, 3:06 AM
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Spellcheck doesn’t like Saban
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Orange Blooded [2440]
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Dec 5, 2024, 4:16 PM
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We have been paying dabo elite money and only getting decent results for the last 5 years. Something has to give.
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Tiger Spirit [9873]
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Now why you gotta go making sense 'round here like that?
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Dec 5, 2024, 4:24 PM
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You know that kinda talk just doesn't fly on T-net!!
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Valley Protector [1417]
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Re: Everyone complaining about Dabos pay
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They are all way overpaid. Society has its priorities mixed up.
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Ring of Honor [22008]
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He's worth every penny from what he has accomplished prior.
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Dec 5, 2024, 4:48 PM
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And now he has the opportunity to prove that he's still an $11 million coach.
Cheering for him!
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Top TigerNet [32615]
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i think both are outrageous and partly lead to the state we are in today
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Dec 5, 2024, 4:51 PM
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all the revenue from these sports goes to 2 places.
1) right back to the students.. in facilities, travel, stipends, clothes, room and board..etc.
2) the coaches and admin salaries.
It's a lot easier to defend the amateur sports model with #1 than #2.
How can you say this is amateur sports when the coaches are making twice what their professional counterparts make?
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Asst Coach [884]
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Re: i think both are outrageous and partly lead to the state we are in today
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Dec 5, 2024, 5:41 PM
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Totally agree.
College Football is a massive business being run by a NFP (NCAA)...
Similar to a certain pro football league...
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1st Rounder [603]
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Re: Everyone complaining about Dabos pay
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I think a lot of people miss it. Most (close to all) fans very much respect what Dabo has done. But fans are also allowed to expect more than last 4 years. That’s fair too. WISH he would just adapt or retire. But way more adapt. Just do it. It does seem like ego sometimes. Not always.
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Orange Blooded [2440]
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Standout [246]
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I think Dabo has been very prudent about it. As long as the college football landscape has been/ is fluid, he has just stayed the course playing a steady long game. Fluid from the standpoint of NIL, conference realignment, transfer portal, pay for play. As Saban/NorvellRiley learned trying to manage a moving target is hit or miss. Once the rules become clear, or at least less muddy Dabo will play by them and Clemson will be very successful. Many people have underestimated Dabo to their detriment. That is what I believe feel free to disagree.
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Rival Killer [2902]
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It's not the pay that's the issue. It's the diminishing ROI.
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Dec 6, 2024, 7:48 AM
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Apparently, there's no ROI bus.
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Orange Immortal [62040]
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None of that makes any difference to people who just don't like Dabo.***
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James Franklin is overpaid.
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Dec 6, 2024, 10:12 AM
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Which doesn't mean that Dabo also isn't.
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Orange Elite [5343]
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How that guy is still employed amazes me
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Dec 6, 2024, 10:14 AM
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Penn St could do much better
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Hall of Famer [8104]
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Dado has accomplished more than any active head coach. My main beef is after all this success , he is now putting inexperienced coaches in critical roles, and the effects are showing up on the field. Shouldn’t a top five paid staff have top five assistant coaches? I applaud Dani’s strategy of recruiting from within and grow the coaches up, but if it leads to losing to the gamecocks every other year, we need a new strategy
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Clemson Icon [24684]
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I'd like to be the #3 ranked team in country
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Dec 6, 2024, 10:18 AM
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Dabo has been fantastic for Clemson. But past 3 years Penn State has been a better team while Clemson has dipped from their lofty pedestal.
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Rival Killer [2640]
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Not to mention, look at applications to Clemson and the number of out-of-state
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Dec 6, 2024, 10:31 AM
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kids paying full fare.
He's underpaid.
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I complain about college FB HC pay period bc they get way to much money for coaching kids fresh out of HS to play a sport.
They get paid more than a President and he has to run a country. Without doing any type of research, I'm going to say that college FB coaches are probably the 2nd or 3d highest paid people in the work force...
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Re: Everyone complaining about Dabos pay
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Dec 6, 2024, 1:19 PM
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Pretty wise career moves for the few that have it in them I guess.
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Game Changer [1942]
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Re: Everyone complaining about Dabos pay
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Dec 6, 2024, 1:48 PM
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Dabo has earned every penny he makes … the ppl saying other wise are simply put idiots. Do most of us think he should maybe make better hires around him , absolutely. He did it with Luke let’s just see what happens this off season. I wouldn’t be surprised if a couple changes are made… Dabo isn’t dumb but he’s never and never will be the guy to talk about it or down guys on the staff during the season … especially trying to prepare his team to win a championship and get into the CFP.
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Rival Killer [2902]
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Mike Gundy's mullet says hello******
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110%er [3819]
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Dec 6, 2024, 3:22 PM
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$50K for making the ACC CG
If we win tomorrow night
$200K for winning the ACC CG
$150K for making the playoffs
Y'all going to lose your mind if we place in the top 4 next year (ACC Champs) and his contract get automatically renegotiated. LOL
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Re: Everyone complaining about Dabos pay
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Dec 6, 2024, 6:06 PM
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Uneducated people who have no clue how much money a big time football team brings to a school are the only ones that complain about what a coach makes so just tune them out.
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Hall of Famer [8774]
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Dec 6, 2024, 7:59 PM
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Amen! Most fans have no idea what a top 5 Coach brings in $ and TV time to a school. If we did not have DABO our school would be a run of the mill college most likely ranked 6-8 in the ACC.
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