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Oculus Spirit [40675]
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It’s crazy to see how passionate Rick Barnes is about Basketball.
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Feb 28, 2023, 10:34 PM
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Could you imagine if we could have someone like that coach at Clemson?
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Make hast and quit T-net YOU COOT!!!***
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Feb 28, 2023, 10:35 PM
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Ultimate Tiger [33089]
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But he's right.***
Mar 1, 2023, 10:50 AM
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Paw Master [16128]
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We did...14 years ago***
Feb 28, 2023, 10:42 PM
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Oculus Spirit [40675]
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Thank you.***
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Feb 28, 2023, 10:44 PM
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Re: It’s crazy to see how passionate Rick Barnes is about Basketball.
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Feb 28, 2023, 10:58 PM
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Oculus Spirit [40675]
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Maybe not I’m not sure. But one of my favorite memories was
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Feb 28, 2023, 11:05 PM
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Him going toe to toe with Dean.
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Tiger Titan [47592]
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That was great!
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Mar 1, 2023, 1:51 PM
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It reminds me a lot of Brad going toe to toe with Roy Williams.
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Re: That was great!
Mar 1, 2023, 2:23 PM
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110%er [6166]
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Rick Barnes was ambitious. But he seemed to believe that
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Mar 1, 2023, 9:37 AM
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… his ambitions could not be achieved at Clemson. He had confidence in himself, but lacked confidence in Clemson.
He used Clemson as a stepping stone to what he saw as a better opportunity.
Rick Barnes is an prime illustration of what Clemson basketball is capable of in the right person’s hands … and sadly … why the right person is so rare and hard to find, much less hold on to.
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CU Guru [1501]
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Where'd you get that from?***
Mar 1, 2023, 9:38 AM
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110%er [6166]
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Experience and observation.
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Mar 1, 2023, 10:17 AM
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Where am I mistaken?
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Oculus Spirit [40675]
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Yeah I’m not seeing anything I disagree with there.
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Mar 1, 2023, 10:28 AM
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Doesn’t mean it always has to be but that is how it’s been and certainly the way it was then.
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110%er [6166]
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We all believed we were seeing a “Changing of the Guard”
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Mar 1, 2023, 10:59 AM
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I was a relatively young man back then and I had seen a lot of Clemson basketball through the years.
When Rick Barnes showed up, everything about the program was suddenly different … more exciting … more hopeful.
He took over a group labeled the worst in ACC history and won 18 games. He stood up to Dean Smith. He was instrumental in making Coach K quit for a season. He had us on the cusp of greatness with a ranking of #2 in the nation. He beat the Tar Heels in the ACC tourney in Greensboro. He took us deep into the NCAAs. He had us on our way!!
And then he quit …
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CU Guru [1501]
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Not sure where you "observed" this:
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Mar 1, 2023, 11:51 AM
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"...his ambitions could not be achieved at Clemson. He had confidence in himself, but lacked confidence in Clemson".
That's not why Barnes moved lb.
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CU Guru [1523]
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Behind the scenes shenanigans that you actually observed?
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Mar 1, 2023, 12:17 PM
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Do please share with us your first-hand knowledge.
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CU Guru [1501]
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I'm sorry, you talking to me?***
Mar 1, 2023, 1:40 PM
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110%er [6166]
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As will they all, if and when it is offered …
Mar 1, 2023, 11:46 AM
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That’s the problem in a nutshell.
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Game Day Hero [4437]
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Re: Rick Barnes was ambitious. But he seemed to believe that
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Mar 1, 2023, 11:59 AM
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He tried and tried.
Do you know how many times he went head to head with UNC/Duke/Wake/Maryland for top talent?
and lost every single one?
We'd be after a player and it would come down to Clemson/UNC or Clemson/Maryland and every time the player chose "not Clemson."
He saw the writing on the wall and left.
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Re: A losing record in the ACC and a losing record in the NCAA
Mar 1, 2023, 1:59 PM
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Ring of Honor [23485]
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That was when the ACC was tougher. Only 9 teams.
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Mar 1, 2023, 1:59 PM
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Had to play elite UNC, Duke every year twice. NC State, Maryland Virginia, Wake Forest were usually national contenders. Georgia Tech and FSU were the most winnable. That's 16 conference games. No gimmies ever. Brutal road schedule. Nowhere NEAR as many winnable games as these days. The ACC tournament in Greensboro was like the friggin thunderdome. Just overwhelming.
That 97 team was better than any team since by far. More hustle, more inside power, better point guard play, better ball movement, WAY better defense.
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Re: He was even on Tiger Pregame Show on home football Saturdays
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Mar 1, 2023, 10:45 AM
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Ultimate Tiger [33089]
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The dude was ENGAGED with Clemson & the people of Clemson
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Mar 1, 2023, 10:55 AM
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. . . . NOTHING like our current doorknob.
Football games, concerts, events . . . he was a part of what was going on - like Dabo at softball games & baseball games and float building on Bowman, etc.
He was legit at trying to BUILD the enthusiasm - and it worked.
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Re: The dude was ENGAGED with Clemson & the people of Clemson
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Mar 1, 2023, 11:00 AM
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Buying pizza for students camping out for games. That’s right, we were CAMPING OUT FOR GAMES for basketball. Proves which is the chicken and which is the egg for fan support
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Ultimate Tiger [33089]
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YES ! ! ! ! 1000 TU's to this. This is what really
Mar 1, 2023, 11:05 AM
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happened - in Clemson - around basketball . . . . with a LEADER that was hungry & motivated & understanding of the BIG PICTURE about building a BIG BOY program.
It is CRAZY to think that the passion exhibited towards WINNING programs at Clemson - namely football - wouldn't be shown in the same way towards WINNING basketball and WINNING baseball . . . on a smaller scale due to the size of the venues.
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Ring of Honor [23485]
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That 1997 team was my favorite Clemson team (any sport)
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Mar 1, 2023, 11:36 AM
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of all time. The personality of that whole squad was amazing.
My dad called Tom Wideman the garbage man. Always doing the dirty work with no glamour. Harold Jamison was a beast. His dunks were like the Hulk. Terrell McIntyre was the type of guy you go to war with. Dependable and scrappy. Harrison Buckner was the stallion. He could play on any ACC squad. Merl Code was the veteran. Iker Iturbe was solid muscle and a nice short jumper. Tony Christie was our Steve Kerr, though his 3% was better than his FT% half the time.
They all had that underdog mentality and Barnes orchestrated it into something amazing. I loved that team.
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That was my FR year. Went out with my buddies after drinking on Fri
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Mar 1, 2023, 12:51 PM
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night and set up my tent at 3am waiting for the NC St game that Sat. Kept my tent up during the game, and afterward, more started to follow. I was like the eighth tent in line, and by Sun night there were at least 2000-3000 students hanging out and partying on the LJ lawn.
It was a spectacle as we camped into Mon morning waiting ticket handout for the epic Tim Duncan #2 Clemson vs #2 WF game that would be played later in the week
There were kegs everywhere. We emptied a barrel trash can and lit a fire to stay warm. Fireworks and streakers. People rappelling down the side of the building. It was an absolute circus.
And yes, RB showed up with pizza. It was one of my favorite college experiences. I made a choice to drop my computer science class early Mon morning, deeming that weekend far more important than the webpage I’d learn to build a couple semesters later
I LOVED that team
I LOVED Clemson basketball
Clemson came back down like 6-8 pts in the final minute to beat Duke that year too
Super fun home game
I don’t need Clemson bball to be a top program… I do want it to feel exciting and I do expect to be a contender in the conference every handful of years. They are reasonable expectations.
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Re: That was my FR year. Went out with my buddies after drinking on Fri
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Mar 1, 2023, 1:54 PM
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Thanks for sharing your story. Your enthusiasm is contagious. You better seek out medical professionals. Go Tigers!😉
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I remember eating in Harcombe and Tom Wideman
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Mar 1, 2023, 1:56 PM
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took out his dental implant and proudly showed everyone that he was toothless like a hockey player. He always hustled and his teams were fun to watch.
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Ring of Honor [23485]
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Basketball in the 90's was a vastly superior game than now.
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Mar 1, 2023, 2:01 PM
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And no, I don't say that about football, baseball or hockey.
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There is a Moody Blues song in there somewhere.***
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