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New Story: Brad Brownell "comfortable" he will be retained at season's end
Mar 13, 2017, 3:51 PM
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Brad Brownell "comfortable" he will be retained at season's end
Clemson’s 17-15 season earned the Tigers a No. 2 in the National Invitational Tournament brackets that were announced Sunday afternoon. It wasn’t what head coach Brad Brownell wanted, it wasn’t what the players wanted, and it wasn’t what the fans wanted but head coach Brad Brownell told TigerNet Monday that the program is on solid footing. Full Story » |
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Re: New Story: Brad Brownell "comfortable" he will be retained at season's end
Mar 13, 2017, 3:52 PM
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And CM Shack rejoices.
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and Todd whines***
Mar 13, 2017, 4:04 PM
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truth bothers some people more than others***
Mar 13, 2017, 4:09 PM
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Re: truth bothers some people more than others***
Mar 13, 2017, 4:12 PM
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Yep you seem to be struggling with the truth that he is a lame duck coach who is now finishing up his 6th season in a row not in the NCAAT.
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Paw Master [17729]
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how am I struggling? Can you provide specific examples?***
Mar 13, 2017, 4:13 PM
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Re: New Story: Brad Brownell "comfortable" he will be retained at season's end
Mar 13, 2017, 3:54 PM
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I'd be comfortable too if I knew that I'd either have a job or a $3.5M paycheck coming my way.
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"Good place"???? Zero Big Dance invites in 6 years???
Mar 13, 2017, 3:56 PM
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Not my definition of "good".
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Re: "Good place"???? Zero Big Dance invites in 6 years???
Mar 13, 2017, 3:57 PM
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Not mine either! Brad you are a Tommy Bowden excuse machine.
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Re: New Story: Brad Brownell "comfortable" he will be retained at season's end
Mar 13, 2017, 3:56 PM
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If this program is healthy,I don't want to see a sick program.
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Re: New Story: Brad Brownell "comfortable" he will be retained at season's end
Mar 13, 2017, 4:02 PM
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Texas went 11-22 (4-14) and they do not get to do anything in the post-season.
There is a sick program, we are fine, you people need to OD on some chill pills.
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Re: New Story: Brad Brownell "comfortable" he will be retained at season's end
Mar 13, 2017, 4:07 PM
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If you call mediocrity fine , then Brownell is your man. Most Tiger fans hate mediocrity. Ask Tommy Bowden. This is a stagnant program. It won't be this year but Brownell will be gone if he believes that 17 wins or less a year is good enough to keep his job.
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Re: New Story: Brad Brownell "comfortable" he will be retained at season's end
Mar 13, 2017, 4:33 PM
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If 17 wins and an NIT is all we can expect, why did we just spend 60million on the facility. We have been fed mediocrity so long in men's and women's BB that we accept it . Close is not good enough after 6 years on the men's side, and a 10 game improvement on the women's side is still another losing season!
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You do know that the new facilities aren't supposed to make us instantly good, right?
Mar 13, 2017, 7:47 PM
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Their main impact will be with recruiting, and the 2018 class will be the first who has actually seen the facilities in person. The 2017 class got to see the drawings, and it is Brad's best class.
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Re: New Story: Brad Brownell "comfortable" he will be retained at season's end
Mar 13, 2017, 4:47 PM
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I didn't say you said it..I was saying "we" as a fan base. There is that possibility, but there is an equal possibility that we get our basketball version of Dabo.
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Re: New Story: Brad Brownell "comfortable" he will be retained at season's end
Mar 13, 2017, 5:03 PM
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My response was to Tiger Michael, I generally would agree we could get our basketball version of Dabo. However, with our tradition in basketball I would say the odds favor the status quo not changing or regressing when it comes to this.
FWIW I am of the opinion he gets one more year, he is bringing in a solid recruiting class (probably his best) and we will also be able to see if that uptick continues as we see the full effect of the renovations, and I also feel the core we bring back next year will be stronger (Mitchell, Reed, Thomas) and we can build around that. Again, just looking at it level headed and my opinion.
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Delusion of grandeur... Tommy Bowden 2.0***
Mar 13, 2017, 3:59 PM
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Re: Delusion of grandeur... Tommy Bowden 2.0***
Mar 13, 2017, 4:01 PM
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Yep! The problem is that Drad and the Brownell loyalists are buying it.
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Re: Delusion of grandeur... Tommy Bowden 2.0***
Mar 13, 2017, 4:02 PM
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Or, maybe some people are more level headed and do not let their emotions control them.
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It's been 7 years pal, it's not going to work
Mar 13, 2017, 4:04 PM
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Time for a change
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Re: It's been 7 years pal, it's not going to work
Mar 13, 2017, 4:32 PM
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Ok, pal, but change isn't happening no matter how much you whine.
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You're doin' a heckuva job, Brownie!***
Mar 13, 2017, 4:00 PM
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I liked Bowden too, and was against his firing. I was wrong!***
Mar 13, 2017, 4:00 PM
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Lost to Va Tech twice by one point ... Va Tech in! - CU out!
Mar 13, 2017, 4:03 PM
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Yes to be sure, close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades ... BUT we were literally that close to having Va Tech's spot in The Dance with them heading for the NIT.
We lost 11 games by six points or less.
We were so very close to a great season.
But sadly, we are NOT tossing horseshoes nor hand grenades.
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Yes!!!! I don't want this to ever end.
Mar 13, 2017, 4:04 PM
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Also, Brad brings up a great point. College basketball has become all about "March Madness". It was so much better before March Madness. We all remember those days don't we.
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Honestly, I can barely remember what it was like to have a
Mar 13, 2017, 4:16 PM
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team even participating in March Madness. Thanks Brad!
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Try and find a way to forget about March Madness completely****
Mar 13, 2017, 4:20 PM
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We are in the NIT this year. You didn't hear? This is huge****
Mar 13, 2017, 4:26 PM
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Just like the top recruits...I'm not buying what Brownell
Mar 13, 2017, 4:10 PM
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is selling.
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Re: Just like the top recruits...I'm not buying what Brownell
Mar 13, 2017, 4:12 PM
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Me either! Does he actually believe his own spin? Why can't our ad see the truth?
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I think he is blinded by 3.5 million dollars.*****
Mar 13, 2017, 4:14 PM
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If that's the reason then it's a poor excuse.***
Mar 13, 2017, 4:23 PM
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What's 3.5 million among friends?*****
Mar 13, 2017, 4:33 PM
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Not even one toe in******
Mar 13, 2017, 4:17 PM
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I'm a fan, I buy what Clemson is selling***
Mar 13, 2017, 4:25 PM
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In BBall?***
Mar 13, 2017, 4:42 PM
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"Selling" is not a phrase I would associate with Coach
Mar 13, 2017, 5:00 PM
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Brownell. No enthusiasm. No charisma. No je ne sais quoi.
The contrast between him and Dabo is striking.
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Re: Tickets***
Mar 13, 2017, 6:41 PM
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You have to be trolling now...
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Brad and the administration are both blind***
Mar 13, 2017, 4:11 PM
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but the "fans" have 20/20 vision***
Mar 13, 2017, 4:19 PM
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Re: but the "fans" have 20/20 vision***
Mar 13, 2017, 4:22 PM
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Why is fans in quotes?
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Paw Master [17729]
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sarcasm Todd, look it up
Mar 13, 2017, 4:24 PM
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hth
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Re: sarcasm Todd, look it up
Mar 13, 2017, 4:26 PM
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Ah so you dont think the people being critical are fans.
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Paw Master [17729]
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not REAL fans...Only alums can be REAL fans Todd, you
Mar 13, 2017, 4:29 PM
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know that...hth
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Re: not REAL fans...Only alums can be REAL fans Todd, you
Mar 13, 2017, 4:31 PM
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Lol I think its hilarious that you tell me to look up sarcasm and at the same time think I was being remotely serious with that post.
Hell I even went as far as to say I no longer go to games with my dad since he wasnt an Alum.
I dont think I could get any thicker with the sarcasm than that.
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and yet you needed me to explain the quotation marks...Weird***
Mar 13, 2017, 6:09 PM
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Re: and yet you needed me to explain the quotation marks...Weird***
Mar 13, 2017, 6:42 PM
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I didn't need them explained I just wanted to hear you say that people who aren't happy with CBB aren't fans.
Bc that is pathetic
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Re: not REAL fans...Only alums can be REAL fans Todd, you
Mar 13, 2017, 4:32 PM
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Thank god there are some of us "not real fans" if it werent for us "not real fans" then Dabo wouldnt be our HC and neither would Coach Lee.
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Re: not REAL fans...Only alums can be REAL fans Todd, you
Mar 13, 2017, 4:40 PM
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We agree. We didn't accept mediocrity in football with Bowden. Now we are national champs under Dabo. We got tired of Leggetts excuses. Monte Lee is such a refreshing change. Why can't some fans see Brownell is the same as Bowden or Leggett?
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Re: Brad and the administration are both blind***
Mar 13, 2017, 4:26 PM
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I thought Jack Leggett was arrogant and delusional in the end. Brownell is worse if he believes all he is seeing. Drad wake up and see the truth. Get rid of him.
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Mental Illness....plain and simple.
Mar 13, 2017, 4:27 PM
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Yes, I mean CBB all his Minionsand even we Clemson fans in general that don't demand better.....total insanity.
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Don't let anyone suicidal listen to that press conference.
Mar 13, 2017, 4:39 PM
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He really brings the energy! Dude is a natural salesman.
He just drones on. I started nodding off halfway through.
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Another reason why I don't care for tree hockey***
Mar 13, 2017, 4:44 PM
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It is hilarious seeing you guys have a meltdown about this.***
Mar 13, 2017, 5:02 PM
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It is classic not making the tournament every year.
Mar 13, 2017, 5:21 PM
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So hilarious. Well said!
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Ummm no. they are just venting and playing around.
Mar 13, 2017, 5:40 PM
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I a pretty sure that everyone who posts here doesn't think they are changing what the university does.
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Re: New Story: Brad Brownell "comfortable" he will be retained at season's end
Mar 13, 2017, 5:03 PM
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"It's the second bid to the National Invitation Tournament under Brad Brownell. In 2014, K.J. McDaniels led Clemson to the NIT semifinals in Madison Square Garden, where the Tigers fell to SMU 65-59"
Look where SMU is 2 years later and look where we are....SMH
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Re: New Story: Brad Brownell "comfortable" he will be retained at season's end
Mar 13, 2017, 5:08 PM
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You arent a real fan Anon!
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What about the women's basketball coach?
Mar 13, 2017, 5:12 PM
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I haven't heard any discussion about firing her.
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Deer Brad - you have averaged finishing in 8th place
Mar 13, 2017, 5:17 PM
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in your conference over 6 years. Your highest finish is 4th, with Purnell's players. Since then, your highest finish is 6th. This year, you finished 12th. That is not a good place. You have gone 6 years without an invite to the NCAA. You are 9-26 over the last 3 years in games decided by 6 points or less, including a whole bunch this year. That is not a good place.
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It's hard to imagine things going well with BB at the helm
Mar 13, 2017, 5:46 PM
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at this point. Everyone, including recruits, knows that his job is in jeopardy. For a man that's really struggled recruiting, having an uncertain job status is only going to make that more difficult. Giving him one more year isn't likely to help a great deal unless he vastly outperforms expectations next season. More likely we are going to be in a very similar situation again this time next year with D Rad facing a very similar decision. I think the buyout drops 500k next year to 3 mil but his salary escalates about 100k so the cost to cut ties with Brownell isn't significantly less a year from now. Unless we are just satisfied with this level of performance it doesn't really make a lot of sense to keep him around.
The other issue is that even if he has a bounce back season next year he will be getting to that point with 1-2 years left on his deal where coaches typically get extensions. This is obviously all theoretical, but if he were to have a "good" season next year there's going to be a really difficult decision for D Rad where there's pressure to actually extend Brownell's contract again because it doesn't look good publicly when coaches contracts are running out. The situation could potentially get worse with some kind of fool's gold season next year that gets BB another extension and then the results return to what we've seen the last 5-6 years.
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Re: It's hard to imagine things going well with BB at the helm
Mar 13, 2017, 6:41 PM
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Let me add another possible situation. Somehow this team makes it to New York for the final four of the NIT. Would Drad give Brad another insane extension and buyout like he did a few years ago? I hope he has learned from his mistakes a few years ago and grants no extension to Brownell. I'm sure recruits have read or heard about the uncertainty of Brownells job. Adding one year won't change that uncertainty. Drad do the right thing . Make a change and get rid of this arrogant coach.
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Re: New Story: Brad Brownell "comfortable" he will be retained at season's end
Mar 13, 2017, 6:01 PM
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BBs description of the situation reminds me of Trump's describing the crowd at his inauguration. They are both delusional.
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For the record, I support keeping Brad Brownell.***
Mar 13, 2017, 6:02 PM
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Re: For the record, I support keeping Brad Brownell.***
Mar 13, 2017, 6:10 PM
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Why?
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I hate when reporters ask that question.
Mar 13, 2017, 6:07 PM
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There is no right answer. Fans get into a spiral of anger when coaches are on the hotseat.
Why can't people just have an opinion without getting so angry? It shows a total lack of emotional maturity.
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Brownell "comfortable"
Mar 13, 2017, 6:38 PM
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A supervisor told me many moons ago "never be comfortable" with your accomplishments. Take it to heart, Coach Brownell.
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Re: Brownell "comfortable"
Mar 13, 2017, 6:51 PM
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Drad should make it clear to Brownell that the buyout will not stop him from firing him.
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he certainly sounded comfortable
Mar 13, 2017, 6:56 PM
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In his interview with Walt just now. Not a care in the world
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Why wouldn't he be comfortable?
Mar 13, 2017, 7:02 PM
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He's making millions of dollars doing a mediocre job for years.
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Re: Why wouldn't he be comfortable?
Mar 13, 2017, 7:10 PM
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Truth.
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Re: Why wouldn't he be comfortable?
Mar 13, 2017, 8:15 PM
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I'd love to get paid for doing a bad job like Brownell. He can't lose. If he is fired,he gets millions. What a jerk!
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Re: New Story: Brad Brownell "comfortable" he will be retained at season's end
Mar 13, 2017, 9:21 PM
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Come on fans...lets get behind our guys!!!! They have played hard and lost games by just a few points per game. Sad but true...now lets get the Tiger spirit and support them. Go Tigers!!!!When have we been the type of fans that gives up on our Tigers!!!! Come on fans...grin and lets hear that Tiger roar. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Tigers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Clemson fight Tigers fight fight fight!!!!!!
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coach BB is "in a good place" - Tiger fans not so much
Mar 13, 2017, 10:35 PM
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At least spring football is underway. Clemson basketball is dead to me.
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Re: coach BB is "in a good place" - Tiger fans not so much
Mar 13, 2017, 10:53 PM
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It's slowly dying under Brownell. I hate that. OP for a time proved you can a big winner at Clemson. This mediocrity attitude is sickening. I'm glad we got football and baseball that are winners.
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Re: coach BB is "in a good place" - Tiger fans not so much
Mar 13, 2017, 11:12 PM
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coachmac you have been spamming the board all day... Give it a rest already
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Re: coach BB is "in a good place" - Tiger fans not so much
Mar 13, 2017, 11:24 PM
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Look after all the griping,I know Drad is going to keep him. I can't imagine why because Brownell has done a bad job this season. The NIT game tomorrow night is meaningless except for practice time. Oakland has a decent team but Clemson should win the game. Its time this team lives up to its talent and go to New York. No ACC teams in the bracket! Brownell it's time to prove if you can coach in the big leagues. You should have stayed at UNCW.
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Clemson will keep CBB and continue it's mediocrity because
Mar 13, 2017, 11:25 PM
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DRad approved a big buyout to a coach that NO other college in America has tried to hire away from Clemson.
Dump CBB and hire Pat Kelsey of Winthrop before another smarter big school gets him first.
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Re: Clemson will keep CBB and continue it's mediocrity because
Mar 13, 2017, 11:35 PM
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I agree with you. I saw Winthrops coach mentioned on SI as one of the hottest coaches in the country.
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RANT...
Mar 14, 2017, 12:48 AM
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I'm sorry, I'm a low dollar IPTAY donor for the last 20 years, but seriously, who the FSCK DOES Brad Brownell think he FSCKING is?
Is he a Clemson Grad?
Is he an IPTAY donor?
If he isn't either, then how in the BROWNHell is he comfortable in saying that he should be retained to continue his losing ways? to continue to suck like he has for the last 7 years?
Brownhell should be cast out upon the Shyat heap of smelly history of crap coaches.
If we don't fire him now, we'll just donate more to IPTAY and regret it next year for the same crap result.
Right Dan Radikovich?
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This explains everything...
Mar 14, 2017, 6:56 AM
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CBB is "comfortable" going 17-15. You suck as a coach if you're content with that record and are there just for huge paydays at that point. Brownell needs to go.
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Re: New Story: Brad Brownell "comfortable" he will be retained at season's end
Mar 14, 2017, 10:00 PM
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lollers
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Wonder what he's going to do with that bonus?
Mar 14, 2017, 10:02 PM
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Down payment on a new pool?
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