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Orange Phenom [14561]
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How are we 123rd on special teams?
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Oct 20, 2024, 5:48 PM
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Gunn kicks everything out of the end zone, our punter is average(no blocks), we have no fumbles on kick off or punt returns(Williams is a little above average when he has the opportunity to return a punt), our opposition hasn't returned a kick or a punt to amount to anything and Hauser hasn't missed an extra point or a field goal.
The only negative on special teams at all are two blocked field goals. 123rd really?
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All-In [10293]
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Re: How are we 123rd on special teams?
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Oct 20, 2024, 5:51 PM
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I wondered the same. Our punting yards are below average, FG % is on par, no issues with KOs. I guess we had 2 fgs blocked and we haven't blocked any. We are scoring more TDs so our FG #'s are lower than a lot of teams. But I dont see anything that would put us below avg. Its not like last year when we were 50% on FGs or lower even.
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National Champion [7853]
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I think we were ranked really low before the blocks
Oct 20, 2024, 9:06 PM
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so not sure what they are measuring
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Orange Blooded [2119]
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Re: I think we were ranked really low before the blocks
Oct 21, 2024, 3:02 AM
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Correct.
I think it is the lack of returns??
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Rival Killer [2995]
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All-Time Great [97674]
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Two FGs blocked and why they go against our FG kicker is beyond me.
Oct 21, 2024, 8:19 AM
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He had nothing to do with our O-line's failed blocking.
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Paw Warrior [4719]
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Re: Two FGs blocked and why they go against our FG kicker is beyond me.
Oct 21, 2024, 8:21 AM
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Our o-line on FG's is part of special teams not just the kicker.
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Clemson Sports Icon [56631]
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Yep,it is like that one game this year where the announcer kept saying," Clemson
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Oct 20, 2024, 9:45 PM
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needs to pick up about 10 more yards because Hauser's longest this year is only 38 yards..".....And every time I was like, " You moron...he hasn't tried one longer than 38 yards....".
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Game Day Hero [4451]
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Re: How are we 123rd on special teams?
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Oct 20, 2024, 5:54 PM
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Probably because we pretty much fair catch everything, which is a tactic I approve of, as it is supported by the analytics. They are probably measuring return yardage.
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Orange Phenom [14561]
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Re: How are we 123rd on special teams?
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Oct 20, 2024, 6:36 PM
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Even though he does fair catch a lot, Williams is in top 20 for average yards per return.
Have we had a punt blocked?
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Top TigerNet [29076]
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Re: How are we 123rd on special teams?
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Oct 20, 2024, 5:55 PM
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Two blocked field goals and a blocked extra point. Through 6 games that's gonna land you at the back of the pack.
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Orange Phenom [14561]
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Re: How are we 123rd on special teams?
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Oct 20, 2024, 6:37 PM
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I guess so...
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Re: How are we 123rd on special teams?
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Oct 20, 2024, 6:37 PM
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There's 9 teams worse than us. 🤓
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Oct 20, 2024, 6:49 PM
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Re: Swanson.***
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Oct 20, 2024, 7:21 PM
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He has surprised me this year... last year he was one of our biggest weapons last year flipping the field and pinning teams inside the 20. His punts just don't have it this year.
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Clemson Icon [26999]
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Re: How are we 123rd on special teams?
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Oct 20, 2024, 6:55 PM
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I don’t know what stats are included, but we don’t pin opponents inside the 10 yard line very often. Seems other teams pin us there a lot more than we do. I’m thinking our net yards per punt are relatively low. I didn’t research anything, just going by my observations from games.
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All-In [10293]
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Re: How are we 123rd on special teams?
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Oct 20, 2024, 6:56 PM
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Our punting has to be 123rd but I think the rest is above average.
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Re: How are we 123rd on special teams?
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Oct 20, 2024, 7:59 PM
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As long as the kicking game does not beat you it makes no difference.
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Re: How are we 123rd on special teams?
Oct 20, 2024, 8:18 PM
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Two blocked field goals will do it!
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Orange Elite [5143]
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We suck at punting???
Oct 20, 2024, 9:45 PM
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And we don’t return punts
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Athletic Dir [1199]
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Re: How are we 123rd on special teams?
Oct 21, 2024, 5:29 AM
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Mac Lain even said last week, "VAs punter got handled by Louisville, yet Clemson will make him look like a pro". So something is definitely up with STs.
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Re: How are we 123rd on special teams?
Oct 21, 2024, 5:52 AM
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These rankings keep me up at night.
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Solid Orange [1330]
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Almost every team we've faced has had better net punt yards; we rarely return
Oct 21, 2024, 6:16 AM
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punts; two FGs blocked; and we never attempt a block or a fake. Most of the defense of our ST in this thread is that we haven't screwed up that much. Feels like ST is purely procedural and not a way to gain an advantage for our team. It is a neglected third phase of the game.
Go Tigers!
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Rival Killer [3076]
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Re: Almost every team we've faced has had better net punt yards; we rarely return
Oct 21, 2024, 6:35 AM
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I’ve seen more first downs from blocked punt attempts than blocked punts. Just don’t let them make a first down off of a faked punt!
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Orange Immortal [67483]
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Punting is deplorable and has been for years...
Oct 21, 2024, 7:27 AM
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Literally every team we face has a better punter, and in most case, significantly better. Clemson currently ranks 83rd out of 133 teams in net punting with a net average below 40 yards (38.31). I'm sorry, but that stinks!
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Clemson Conqueror [11337]
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Re: How are we 123rd on special teams?
Oct 21, 2024, 8:36 AM
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I think we were so bad at the start of last season it bled into this year.
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Re: How are we 123rd on special teams?
Oct 21, 2024, 8:37 AM
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Part of it has to be how many big punts we allow I guess
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Dynasty Maker [3222]
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Re: How are we 123rd on special teams?
Oct 21, 2024, 10:26 AM
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As far as our punts being a couple of yards shorter than others, who says a longer punt is better than one that doesn't allow a return? You can outkick your coverage and all that.
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National Champion [7853]
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it's also about in field position also, we rarely punt and if we do, we are
Oct 21, 2024, 3:09 PM
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probably near or in plus territory because we've moved the ball some. You are trying to place the ball inside the 20 not flip a field from your on 20 like a lot of those bad team punters are doing. For Clemson, I usually look at how many we have downed inside the 20 as the key stat. If its a 28 yard punt from the other teams 40 with no return then it's a great punt in my book.
Anybody have our downed inside the 20 stats for this year? Spiers was very good at this.
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We have lost a punt return fumble early in the season***
Oct 21, 2024, 3:18 PM
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