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It may be time to actually play Notre Dame less.
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Jan 31, 2025, 9:05 AM
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Recently, ND’s AD suggested they play Clemson more frequently in football. This is clearly an attempt to increase their slumping viewership. The dip in National Championship ratings proved that ND and Ohio State aren’t the draws they once were, and they are scrambling to change the trend. Does Clemson really need to take the hit by playing less popular programs? I expect OSU to reach out to more popular ACC/SEC schools in an effort to increase ratings as well. Another thing both teams could do is have more exciting entrances, more pageantry, and more exciting storylines. I know one of the things the networks love is broadcasting the busses at Clemson, The Hill and Howard’s Rock. Maybe ND and OSU could create some traditions like these, or maybe have more fireworks or a cannon.
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I think once we get a surplus of sea turtles again, we should
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Jan 31, 2025, 9:19 AM
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Bring back the orange balloons:
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three words
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Jan 31, 2025, 9:33 AM
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midget wrestling
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Re: three words
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Jan 31, 2025, 9:39 AM
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I'm no mathematician but where's the third word?
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Re: three words
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Jan 31, 2025, 11:19 AM
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That added to the comedy you see. Well played actually.
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Dont stop him..
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Jan 31, 2025, 12:47 PM
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he’s on a roll.
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Re: three words
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Jan 31, 2025, 12:47 PM
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They are already halfway there with the Leprechaun!
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Orange Blooded [2258]
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It really feels like we are the Belle of the Ball...***
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Jan 31, 2025, 9:40 AM
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Re: It may be time to actually play Notre Dame less.
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Jan 31, 2025, 9:43 AM
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WT? 🤦♂️-
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Haha
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Jan 31, 2025, 9:45 AM
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Pipe seller was my nickname while paying my way through college.
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Re: Haha
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Jan 31, 2025, 10:21 AM
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I thought that was pipe cleaner.
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Re: It may be time to actually play Notre Dame less.
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Jan 31, 2025, 10:10 AM
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The game was the most watched of the year so what more do you want?
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Re: It may be time to actually play Notre Dame less.
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Jan 31, 2025, 10:20 AM
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Valley coot strikes again 🤣
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Notre Dame vs OSU had 22.1 million viewers
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Jan 31, 2025, 10:21 AM
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the third lowest in the playoff era and a 12% drop from 2024.
To put that into perspective, no Clemson NC game had fewer than 25.1 million, and we’ve had as many as 26.7 million.
It’s just math.
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Re: Notre Dame vs OSU had 22.1 million viewers
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Jan 31, 2025, 10:26 AM
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This^^^^
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Re: Notre Dame vs OSU had 22.1 million viewers
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Jan 31, 2025, 10:50 AM
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You are absolutely correct re. Why ND wants to play Clemson every year. It boosts their slumping tv ratings and they will slump even more when the SEC AND BIG quit scheduling them. ND needs the ratings to get better for their tv contact renewal when it comes up for renewal.
Notre Dame contributes nothing to any conference while using them to boost their tv contract revenue. Screw them. Clemson should NOT play them.
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Re: Notre Dame vs OSU had 22.1 million viewers
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Jan 31, 2025, 11:15 AM
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The last Clemson NC was in 2019. Since then, college football viewership has plummeted. You can't compare apples with oranges. Notre Dame is far more popular than we are. Look at our ratings during the regular season. Notre Dame still has the second largest fanbase in the country. Ohio State is #1. This is just a really stupid take.
That said, I agree with the base premise. There is no advantage to playing ND any more. You either win the ACC, or you have to be ranked high. Risking OOC losses is dumb.
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I don't know why we would play North Dakota at all
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Jan 31, 2025, 10:46 AM
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The Bison are a really good team that would probably give us a better game than many ACC teams. If we beat em oh well you were supposed yo and if we lose is an embarrassment. You're absolutely right there is no upside.
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I agree, ND is not the program it once was
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Jan 31, 2025, 11:07 AM
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which was proven with losses to a directional school in Illinois (no legit football program loses to a school in Illinois, they don’t know ball in that state), and Ohio State who didn’t even qualify for their conference championship game.
As for adding excitement to the experience there, one idea I had was to shoot fireworks from Touchdown Jesus during their entrance and every time they score. I think the TV viewers would really get a kick out of that.
Ohio State needs a complete overhaul. Their favorite tradition is dotting the i in Ohio, which is just the band…it has nothing to do with football. I think they’d be better served by having their football players run out and spell Ohio instead, and then pick a “fan of the game” to dot the i. It would add excitement to people who pay to sit through those crap games in person, and for the TV audience it would create drama every week to see if the football players can spell Ohio correctly or not.
I’m just thinking out loud here.
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Re: I agree, ND is not the program it once was
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Jan 31, 2025, 11:14 AM
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I mean no disrespect, but that is looking at the word through orange colored glasses at two teams that were both significantly better than were last season and the season before that and the season before that.
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So two teams with a total of 0 conference championships in 2024
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Jan 31, 2025, 11:17 AM
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are better than a team that did win its conference championship?
lol, am I on candid camera right now?
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Re: So two teams with a total of 0 conference championships in 2024
Jan 31, 2025, 1:05 PM
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According to your logic Ohio State (who I freaking hate with a passion) was a worse team than Jacksonville State. So Yes...given that both of them made it to the CFP final. One of them convincingly. Or did I miss something? Are you saying winning the Big10 or the ACC is a bigger deal than winning the CFP? If so maybe we should just opt out of the CFP and call the ACC championship good enough, because it the pinnacle of greatness. I mean common, we are all proud of our ACC championship, but what we really brag about is our national titles because that is the one title that actually means something.
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We are discussing playoff teams
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Jan 31, 2025, 1:19 PM
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Not Ohio Valley or Conference USA, or whatever.
Regarding winning the NC, Clemson and SMU had to play an additional playoff game that ND and OSU did not. The asterisk is already there, it’s not coming off.
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Re: I agree, ND is not the program it once was
Jan 31, 2025, 2:19 PM
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And in 22.
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Re: It may be time to actually play Notre Dame less.
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Jan 31, 2025, 11:11 AM
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You know what is F______g scary? SC averages more viewers per game than we do now. It really is a strength of schedule thing....There's likely no fixing that unless the entire ACC gets better.
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I just looked up CFP era playoff game viewership stats
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Jan 31, 2025, 11:16 AM
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and could not find the information you provided. Could you tell me what year that was?
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Re: I just looked up CFP era playoff game viewership stats
Jan 31, 2025, 1:06 PM
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This year....2024. I posted the link on another post, but I am not going to serve as Cliff's Notes for you. Go find it.
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You seem to have trouble staying on topic
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Jan 31, 2025, 1:20 PM
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We are discussing playoff teams. SCU did not make the playoffs in 2024, or any year in the history of college football for that matter. There are 0 data points for them.
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Re: It may be time to actually play Notre Dame less.
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Jan 31, 2025, 11:16 AM
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Instead of playing football by the traditional rules, we could play a banana ball style game. This would certainly up the ratings.
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Our ratings are fine
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Jan 31, 2025, 11:18 AM
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But this is a good idea for ND and OSU.
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Re: Our ratings are fine
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Jan 31, 2025, 11:36 AM
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Notre Dame is like the selfish princess, no matter how much you give the selfish princess, she is dissatisfied, offended and in desperate need of more.
I’m against feeding that bottomless pit of need. I’d banish her to Elba to lord over the mosquitos and crabs.
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Re: It may be time to actually play Notre Dame less.
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Jan 31, 2025, 12:00 PM
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They can join the ACC. No one is stopping them.
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I really think that the more ESPN gets excited about "m-arquee" match-ups
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Jan 31, 2025, 12:17 PM
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of traditional blue bloods with big alumni bases, the more the casual fan shrugs. It feels contrived and forced. Ohio State vs. Notre Dame should have been...by ESPN's line of thinking...ratings gold. But they just overwhelm you with it and on top of that, it fits in nicely with the idea that only ultra-ultra rich programs will be able to fund a team and roster to make it to the championship, which makes the sport less interesting to some.
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Excellent points *****
Jan 31, 2025, 12:22 PM
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Re: It may be time to actually play Notre Dame less.
Jan 31, 2025, 1:17 PM
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I think Ohio State had the 2nd highest average viewers of any team in the regular season. Every playoff round Ohio State had the highest rated game. The NC just didn’t do it for people. I get it.
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Ohio State has been in the championship game 3 times in the playoff era
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Jan 31, 2025, 1:45 PM
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2 of the 3 least viewed championship games in the entire playoff era included Ohio State.
67% of the least viewed games. 67%. Wow.
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Re: Ohio State has been in the championship game 3 times in the playoff era
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Jan 31, 2025, 2:33 PM
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But what about what Kirk Herbstreit said? People want to see name brand blue bloods like those two and Clemson apparently isn’t that.
The score 31-0 sticks out in my terrible memory.
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I agree with the majority of the experts
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Ohio State should not have been allowed in the playoffs during the COVID year. That’s why there is an asterisk beside that year in the record books.
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Re: It may be time to actually play Notre Dame less.
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Re: It may be time to actually play Notre Dame less.
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This is a masterpiece. Excellent work.
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Salient point, Madame.
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Jan 31, 2025, 5:08 PM
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Re: It may be time to actually play Notre Dame less.
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Jan 31, 2025, 5:31 PM
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You make some valid points. But Ocryo St won’t be reaching out to more popular ACC/SEC teams to play more games because they will continue to play the softest non-conference schedule in the country. If they played any decent non conference teams they would never make the playoffs.
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I've thought alot about this.
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My conclusion:
Notra Dame is in Indiana.
And so is Indiana.
And Indiana is a basketball school.
Therefore, Notra Dame is a basketball school.
And as you suggest, football schools that play basketball schools in football tend to lose in the ratings. Ohio State being the latest, most obvious example.
As for creating more of a spectacle at ND or Ohio State games, I have to disagree. Running those 4K cameras back and forth over all those beer-drunk pale clinically depressed people is spectacle enough.
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