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Interesting #s


Sep 20, 2023, 5:15 PM

Since 2018 (when the portal became a thing)

Clemson Freshman/RS Freshman

2018 41
2019 52
2020 52
2021 51
2022 57
2023 62



SR/RS SR

2018 29
2019 14
2020 17
2021 23
2022 19
2023 21

I can't find actual ages of the players at the time of the roster but going by 18,19,20,21 for F,SO,JR,SR as a base line the average age of the roster in 2018 was 19.333.....2023 it's 19.05. This may not seem like a big difference but considering the ages I used from among 120 total players it would take a good many 18 and 19 year olds to shift it 1/3 of a year.

With every player since 2020 having an extra covid year and many of them having taken advantage of it, this is concerning to me. The roster should have gotten older since 2020, no?

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Sep 20, 2023, 5:23 PM

I find that hard to believe. Is it because of the Covid years? 50-60 freshman, even when you include redshirt freshman can’t be right. We recruit max 20-25 a year. Could it be because of all the walk in’s we allow?

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Sep 20, 2023, 5:26 PM

This is where I got the data from.

2023 is

FR 62
SO 31
JR 28
SR 21

http://www.cfbstats.com/2023/team/147/roster.html


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Sep 20, 2023, 5:33 PM

I thought the 85 limit was back in force? So don’t see how this could be possible

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Re: Interesting #s


Sep 20, 2023, 5:48 PM

The list isn’t just scholarship players.

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Sep 20, 2023, 5:43 PM [ in reply to Re: Interesting #s ]

No way we have 142 players.

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Sep 20, 2023, 6:34 PM [ in reply to Re: Interesting #s ]

142 plyers - thought Dabo said we had about 130 prior to start of season.

This doesn't even include the PK we added Sunday!

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Sep 20, 2023, 5:31 PM

Why not do 1st thur 6th players per season. If your labeling is correct (Fr/rS Fresh and SR/RS SR) you’re missing true sophomores, true and rs juniors, and possibly super seniors/graduates (unless their lumped in with RS SRs. That doesn’t make sense you already have a full scholarship roster by the numbers.

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Sep 20, 2023, 5:48 PM

It isn’t just scholarship roster. It’s entire roster. The source doesn’t differentiate.

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Sep 20, 2023, 11:37 PM

The reason may be that in 2018, the portal was used, but not like since 2021.

There are always many teams that are having players constantly transfer out. And Clemson has had their fair share the last few years.

Those scholarship spots that have needed to be filled have only been with high school recruits. Not older transfer players. Because…Dabo doesn’t use the portal.

Those transfers out of Clemson kept adding up and now we are seeing the new wave of freshman recruits that are filling in those spots.

I may be completely wrong.

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I think you're on the money.***


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Sep 21, 2023, 12:10 AM

When you factor in non-scholarship players, the team will never get younger

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This does factor in non-scholarship players and has***


Sep 21, 2023, 1:15 PM



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Re: This does factor in non-scholarship players and has***


Sep 21, 2023, 1:24 PM

I know...that's my point. We have 50 guys who are not on scholarship and those tend to be younger walk-ons. The number of non-scholly players drops as they get older.

The portal has nothing to do with those players. If we want to try to analyze how the portal is affecting team age, limit it to the 85 on scholly.

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Sep 21, 2023, 4:40 PM

interested in your theory now.

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