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I'm Sorry But Its Getting A Bit Out Hand ---
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I don't mind these incoming recruits getting money....but there has to be a limit. I just don't see giving an incoming recruit basically NFL money straight out of high school.... when they haven't proven anything on the college level yet. If they're willing to make their own NIL money....then thats their personal project. But to expect a program to shell out that kind of money when they're already being taken care of when they're coming in is a constant risk of wasting unnecessary funds when nothing has been proven yet. Medical and everything is already taken care of. Cap this thing once and for all.
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They should be paid all they can get. If a college
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Oct 28, 2025, 12:55 PM
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team wants someone pony up. Capitalism at its best!
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Re: They should be paid all they can get. If a college
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Oct 28, 2025, 7:24 PM
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You know what else is part of capitalism? Me opting out and not funding it anymore.
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Tiger Spirit [9407]
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Why cant the NCAA (or some other governing body) stipulate these things?
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Oct 28, 2025, 1:14 PM
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Start a new college football association and say, you can get this amount and nothing more or youre not playing in this league. No one is making you play in our league, its 100% voluntary, so if you want millions to be an unproven mercenary, go play in the NFL-lite league. If that means less talent is in real college football moving forward, who cares. Its a helluva lot better than this current fiasco that isnt really college football anymore anyway.
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Because, apart from the formerly over-reaching "authority" that was the NCAA
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Oct 28, 2025, 1:39 PM
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where else on earth does this happen?
I mean, imagine all engineering firms forming an authoritarian body that states that "you can get this amount and nothing more", and that being an engineer is 100% voluntary.
Now apply it to the accounting profession. Fast food workers. Landscapers. Lawyers. Welders.
That's why.
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Dynasty Maker [3491]
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But that was the one thing the NCAA wasn't really overreaching on . . . .
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Oct 28, 2025, 2:08 PM
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there was nothing wrong with stipulating that to be an amateur in a non-contractual, non-labor context, one must, in fact, BE an amateur. That part of the NCAA's regulation was never the problem. It was entirely sensible and kept the whole thing together.
The overreach was when they said that all sorts of benign economic activity violated this provision (for example, the case of Colorado football player (Jeremy Bloom, I think?)). People saw through that as the mindless, cookie-cutter analysis of a garbage bureaucracy that it was. The NCAA had no nuance and no sense of the spirit of the rule. Everything was treated as zero tolerance. That pushed people over the edge and they simply reacted by pining for all NCAA limits and all amateurism regulations to be exhaustively dumped, lock, stock and barrel, rather than for responsible adults without a PhD in bureaucratic nonsense to continue to run it like doltish automatons. The NCAA had no sense of proportion, and there was no pressure relief valve. So they made their own bed and this is the result.
But the restrictions enforcing amateurism was never the problem.
If anything, a such restrictions put in place now, like everyone wants, will be much harder to legally sustain, since we're a lot closer to it being an actual labor market now than we were then.
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Re: Because, apart from the formerly over-reaching "authority" that was the NCAA
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Oct 28, 2025, 2:26 PM
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where else on earth does this happen?
I mean, imagine all engineering firms forming an authoritarian body that states that "you can get this amount and nothing more", and that being an engineer is 100% voluntary.
Now apply it to the accounting profession. Fast food workers. Landscapers. Lawyers. Welders.
That's why.
Well DonJuan…you just don’t get it…these kids come to college for an education…in exchange for playing football they get: free room and board, free medical, free nutrition, free clothes and free education..so don’t act like they have not received remuneration . There r rules, should be rules..even NFL has structure and rules…this is an out of control freight train that will get corrected sooner or later but don’t relate this to job market in real world..it ain’t..
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We're headed there.
Oct 28, 2025, 8:00 PM
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When we get to the SuperLeague players will become employees, will unionize, and benefits and salary caps will be negotiated.
NFL used to give huge signing bonuses to big time college players (Some in excess of 1M.) The veterans got tired of rookies making more than them so they negotiated a salary cap, including signing bonuses.
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Why do you hate capitalism?
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Athletic Dir [1129]
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Yeah... the NCAA would be wise to regulate payments to players...
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Oct 28, 2025, 2:06 PM
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as to keep the quality of its product. But they have no right to regulate players and their arrangements with outside entities.
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Re: I'm Sorry But Its Getting A Bit Out Hand ---
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Oct 28, 2025, 1:38 PM
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It’s only going to get worse and more expensive because someone out there will always keep raising the bar and paying more.
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Orange Elite [5516]
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Re: I'm Sorry But Its Getting A Bit Out Hand ---
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Oct 28, 2025, 1:51 PM
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Yes, a fool and his money shall soon be parted!
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The NFL gives recruits NFL money every year.
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Oct 28, 2025, 1:47 PM
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Except they're called rookies.
The only difference is NCAA hasn't capped it the way the NFL owners have. Yet. Assuming the NCAA -- toothless Tiger that it has become -- can do anything to slow down the SEC and B1G.
And the probably can't. Meaning the SEC and B1G will set monetary policy, meaning donor bases like Clemson's will struggle to keep up.
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And that's why we are missing on 5* players
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Oct 28, 2025, 1:57 PM
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Watch the highlights from the 2018 season.
Comparing this year's team to that, we are slow and small compared to that team.
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Dynasty Maker [3491]
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Exactly . . . people should just stop . . .
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Oct 28, 2025, 2:00 PM
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... just be unwilling to donate money that is essentially being thrown at kids in the immature hope that that they'll take the bait and maybe perform well, but still really have no obligation, performance, loyalty, or otherwise. It's absurd. If everyone would see the silliness in that and just quit, then this whole thing could die a natural death and we could just allow actual NIL (not pay for play disguised as NIL). But alas, that's wholly unrealistic to expect. People simply aren't mature enough, en masse, to do that. People really DO want to donate money for Universities and collectives to just GIVE AWAY to players to sign up for a brief time.
Furthermore, the legalities of it are hard to reign in. When SCOTUS ruled on the Alston case it pretty much made any end-around dead on arrival. I think the scotus ruling is utter silliness, and it's telling that it was 9-0. The whole thing is predicated on the idea that any transmission of benefits, no matter how voluntary, non-binding, and without legal consideration, constitutes "commerce." As always, the feds did way too much.
NIL, TRUE NIL, is just freedom of contract. But we have far more than that now.
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Re: I'm Sorry But Its Getting A Bit Out Hand ---
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Oct 28, 2025, 2:16 PM
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Money is part of the game so just accept that and enjoy the games.
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Make them employees with three year contracts.***
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