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Im sorry, but Shipleys behavior was inexcusable
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Im sorry, but Shipleys behavior was inexcusable

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Sep 17, 2023, 6:07 AM

1. You can’t be questioning the play on the field

2. You go celebrate with your teammate when he scores

3. Show some respect and don’t yell at your coach

I’m really disappointed in what I saw, and I hope this is a learning experience that will make him a better teammate, leader, and overall person.

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Re: Im sorry, but Shipleys behavior was inexcusable

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Sep 17, 2023, 9:26 AM

Seems Spiller has a history of spats with at least one other player of which may have cost us the UGA game. It wasn't a great look for Shipley but I'm not blindly throwing him under the bus without knowing all the circumstances.

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What was Spillers coaching experience when hired?

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Sep 17, 2023, 4:58 PM

Just curious

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What are you talking about with the UGA game? What spats?


Sep 18, 2023, 12:38 AM [ in reply to Re: Im sorry, but Shipleys behavior was inexcusable ]

Me thinks you’re making things up.

CJ is coaching and getting more out of his room than most any other group on the team.

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False***


Sep 18, 2023, 11:16 AM [ in reply to Re: Im sorry, but Shipleys behavior was inexcusable ]



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Well Spiller earned points with me because thats how you coach

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Sep 18, 2023, 5:30 PM [ in reply to Re: Im sorry, but Shipleys behavior was inexcusable ]

And the player’s job is to listen and do it better next time

He had good blocking on the previous play and failed to score from the 2 yard line

Spiller is 100% right. This team needs to learn the killer instinct and punch the freaking ball in the endzone the first time. And is Shipley can’t do, next man up.

I for one loved seeing us get up under center and getting the #### yard

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Re: Im sorry, but Shipleys behavior was inexcusable

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Sep 17, 2023, 9:53 AM

Acting like a 5 year that didn’t get his way. I don’t care if he was completely justified if he can’t manage his emotions any better than that he needs to sit.

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Re: Im sorry, but Shipleys behavior was inexcusable

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Sep 17, 2023, 4:32 PM

I have a feeling Ship's episode last night might happen more often than we think.
I think the NIL has a lot to do with that

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Blaming NIL for a player acting like a punk? Come on.***

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Sep 17, 2023, 8:29 PM



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So FOS. Always trying to be an a s s.***

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Sep 18, 2023, 11:17 AM



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Not so ridiculous

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Sep 18, 2023, 11:25 AM [ in reply to Blaming NIL for a player acting like a punk? Come on.*** ]

I will say this - I don't think it's generally wise to try to isolate that as the primary problem in any particular instance. But as a more general matter, it doesn't at all stand to reason to assume that attitudes and postures of entitlement and arrogance WON'T be cultivated by NIL, combined with the general ethos of quasi-narcissistic self-absorption encouraged by advertising and social media.

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Yup, the NIL has definitely empowered kids.


Sep 18, 2023, 11:31 AM

Not the case with Shipley though, and one of the best players on our team is far from a “punk”.

Ms Krump does this crap everyday of her life. Just an instigator and troll. Krump won’t ban himself again though.

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Agree and not sorry.***

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Sep 17, 2023, 4:33 PM



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Re: Im sorry, but Shipleys behavior was inexcusable

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Sep 17, 2023, 4:34 PM

I'd rather know the complete details of what happened before I form an opinion.

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Do we know exactly what happened other than what we saw?***


Sep 17, 2023, 4:36 PM



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Re: Im sorry, but Shipleys behavior was inexcusable

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Sep 17, 2023, 7:56 PM

The age of coaching dictatorships and do-as-I-say-or-you-are-benched is over. The players have far more power now and respect is a two-way street. Coaches that don't recognize this are not going to survive.

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Re: Im sorry, but Shipleys behavior was inexcusable

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Sep 17, 2023, 8:04 PM

I disagree on this. In any successful organization you have to have leaders and subordinates. In football the coach is the boss. Period. Can you imagine a military operation where the valuable soldiers thought they could just make their own rules? Or even in business, the workers dont tell their boss what they are going to do. It really doesnt matter what the situation was, he lost his temper on live TV with the guy that determines whether or not he gets to play. Not really a good look for a seasoned player thats supposed to be a leader.

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Re: Im sorry, but Shipleys behavior was inexcusable

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Sep 17, 2023, 8:00 PM

Indicative of Dabo losing control of team?
The signs are common that he has.

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Dabo Losing the team? The signs are there

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Sep 17, 2023, 9:08 PM

Well, you might be right there. Beau Beau letting up 10 yards shy of a TD and stepping on his hot dog, Wiggins jumping into the stands after a big pick 6, Ship screaming at the coaches from the field and then blowing up on the sideline. Kinda hard to figure out who is in charge of this bunch of spoiled brats??

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Sep 17, 2023, 11:22 PM [ in reply to Re: Im sorry, but Shipleys behavior was inexcusable ]

This team definitely does not show the tightness of past teams. A big win could certainly help restore some confidence and belief.

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Please define tightness and cite the evidence that were not tight.


Sep 18, 2023, 11:08 AM

Seems like another contrived way to complain to me.

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Much ado about nothing

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Sep 17, 2023, 8:04 PM

A big nothing burger and all that. Just something to talk about.

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Re: Much ado about nothing

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Sep 17, 2023, 8:34 PM

Yep. Being way overblown by TNet. Need to be focusing on FSU.

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Re: Much ado about nothing


Sep 18, 2023, 5:43 PM

Yep have had to post a little less here recently. Too much drama for myself.

I would enjoy some X’s and O’s talk but coaching experience, the portal and the coaches belief in God as reasonings for not meeting expectations are 3 things that I’m learning to overlook. Craziness. We have missed on a few recruits and stupidity ensues.

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MEG


Always been a hothead. Not news.

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Sep 17, 2023, 9:17 PM

Wont come within a mile of "great." Also not news.

Spiller was a not a hothead and was "great."

I miss Spiller.

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A hothead ? What the eff are you talking about ?


Sep 18, 2023, 11:15 AM

I’ve only ever seen a highly competitive player who plays as hard or harder than anyone on the team. Where have you seen “hothead”?

It’s common to see kids express things to coaches from the field. Ship’s audio just happened to catch what he was expressing. Spiller was ticked at Ship’s effort to will that TD in, so he told him so and yanked him. CJ will pull a less-than-best effort, every time. Nothing wrong with that nor Ship’s on the field reaction.

Now, when he got to the sidelines and openly challenged his coaches decision, that’s where he was wrong and should have acted more responsibly as far as team.

So yeah, Dabo is handling that. No big deal really, but some of you guys looking for ways to demean Ship should be embarrassed of yourselves as Clemson men.

Sorry if that offends.

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Sep 17, 2023, 9:24 PM

From what I have gathered Spiller was onto Ship for not hitting the hole hard enough on that goal line...but Spiller obviously had his eyes closed and missed Putnam and Tate getting blown up....per usual.

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Re: Im sorry, but Shipleys behavior was inexcusable

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Sep 17, 2023, 11:27 PM

You mean the play where Putnam & Tate got a 3 yard push and were in the endzone when shipley got arm tackled?

He had a bad game last night, it happens

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Re: Im sorry, but Shipleys behavior was inexcusable

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Sep 17, 2023, 1:28 PM [ in reply to Re: Im sorry, but Shipleys behavior was inexcusable ]

Lol. Tate wasn't even in the game and Putnam blocked his guy and ended up in the end zone.

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Bingo!***


Sep 18, 2023, 11:18 AM [ in reply to Re: Im sorry, but Shipleys behavior was inexcusable ]



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Posted reply to wrong guy.

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Sep 18, 2023, 11:22 AM

The blocking moved most of the DL backwards and some in the endzone.

Watch the play again. Ships effort literally faded a half yard from punching that in. Guaranteed he won’t lolligag next time he’s in that position.

Great coaching. The sideline antics from Will were uncalled for and non team like. He created distraction which could hurt us in a bigger game.

It’s over. Let’s go Tigers!

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