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TNET: Swinney responds to Dave Doeren's facilities remark: "Buildings don't win"
Aug 5, 2018, 8:01 AM
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Orange Blooded [2507]
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I get the feeling Dabo REALLY doesn't like Doeren
Aug 5, 2018, 8:18 AM
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He seems to get along with or at least respect the other ACC coaches but Dorean has more than once made comments about our integrity and Dabo don't stand for that
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Orange Phenom [14535]
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Re: I get the feeling Dabo REALLY doesn't like Doeren
Aug 5, 2018, 8:21 AM
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Well, that's one thing Dabo and I have in common!
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Re: I get the feeling Dabo REALLY doesn't like Doeren
Aug 5, 2018, 8:51 AM
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As sorry of a representative of Wolfpack football as Dorean is, he is not NEAR the turd Reed was back in the 80's or Holtz in the 70's...but he is getting close
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Clemson Icon [26914]
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Re: I get the feeling Dabo REALLY doesn't like Doeren
Aug 5, 2018, 9:17 AM
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Not much to like about DD. He whines about a laptop instead of addressing really poor fan behavior. He runs right along with his star player patting him on the back as he spits on the opponent’s logo at midfield. And that was just last year. The culture he promotes is 180 degrees opposite of Dabo and the Tigers. This is one team I hope we keep our foot on the pedal and stomp right into the mud. No mercy for this guy.
GO TIGERS!!!! 27 DAYS!!!!!!
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Re: I get the feeling Dabo REALLY doesn't like Doeren
Aug 5, 2018, 1:37 PM
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I think Dabo realizes dd's poor character and he doesn't stand for it. From the towel stealing, to the dirty hits. His players lack morals and resemble what their coach stands for. I personally hope we dominate them with another 41 to 0 win like we did a few years ago. Wolfpack=Coots of the acc. Terrible fans and coach.
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I don't know the man so I souldn't
Aug 5, 2018, 9:11 AM
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judge. But just for fun I will. To me he comes on kinda like a pr!ck.
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I don't have a huge problem with what he said..
Aug 5, 2018, 9:19 AM
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we do have better facilities and they have come close to beating us.
He did compliment our team while kinda sticking up for his players too. That's just what coaches are supposed to do.
Having said all that, I hope we shut his a$$ up this year by dominating them. Go Tigers!
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Re: I don't have a huge problem with what he said..
Aug 5, 2018, 9:22 AM
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I agree. These might be some of the most reasonable comments I’ve heard from this guy. And that’s not saying much.
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Re: I don't have a huge problem with what he said..
Aug 5, 2018, 10:32 AM
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In this instance the writer is trying to create more friction than his own writings warrant. Entirely reasonable observations by a coach that seems to some anyway, hard to like. But here he is on target, and Swinney is responding appropriately, which he almost always does. Let's face, if there was a story there it was weeks ago when the writer gathered it.
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Re: I don't have a huge problem with what he said..
Aug 5, 2018, 3:42 PM
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No doubt. The guy seems pretty dooshy, but in this particular instance, I don’t find his comments at all derogatory towards the Tigers or Coach Swinney.
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Tiger Titan [48670]
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Player's that steal towels aren't
Aug 5, 2018, 9:32 AM
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Winners.
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Rival Killer [2623]
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We’re your huckleberry....
Aug 5, 2018, 9:37 AM
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That’s just our game.
Game circled now “under the radar” Game
Manager coach.
I’d love for our defense to break the 12 sack record against their nfl QB.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102392]
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Glad Dabo's staying grounded
Aug 5, 2018, 9:37 AM
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I remember Tommy Bowden thinking a lot like Doeren. We had to build the WEZ to draw better players, then we would win. Then when we got better players, we fed them the ball all day long (Spiller, etc.). And then Tommy was gone.
Enter Dabo. He didn't care about facilities. He cared about coaching and winning. With WHAT WE HAD, he got us winning more and more games, THEN the facilities followed. Now we have the better facilities, and we feed a walk-on WR (who everyone seems to not respect in coverage) the ball to win the NC.
Dabo gets it. Build a program and culture and the wins will come. With the wins, comes the facilities.
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Re: Glad Dabo's staying grounded
Aug 5, 2018, 10:10 AM
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I also like that Dabo doesn't rest on his laurels. They have made it to the top, but I think he said something like we have to get there again, it's not a given, or something similar. He's always looking forward and saying, yes we have that and that, but we still have to do this and this. I like that about him.
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Re: TNET: Swinney responds to Dave Doeren's facilities remark: "Buildings don't win"
Aug 5, 2018, 9:48 AM
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Doeren’s backhanded compliments are irritating and disappointing. I’d prefer he knock it off with the cutesy garbage and speak his mind, like a man.
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All-TigerNet [5904]
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Dave Doeren is a whiner
Aug 5, 2018, 9:51 AM
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...and if he doesn't get that facilities don't win championships he never will.
I hope NC State hangs on to him for a long time.
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CU Guru [1224]
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Doeren’s building alright...
Aug 5, 2018, 9:58 AM
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Building a reputation of being a whiny, pouting, infantile, dirty play encouraging coach.
What a stain on the conference he is.
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Orange Blooded [2218]
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Laptops win championships....
Aug 5, 2018, 10:01 AM
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Just sayin'.... 
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Orange Blooded [2205]
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Re: Laptops win championships....
Aug 5, 2018, 12:04 PM
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that's why is stay by mine all game long. I'm constantly sending plays to Dabo and telling him what Dave says on TV
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Re: TNET: Swinney responds to Dave Doeren's facilities remark: "Buildings don't win"
Aug 5, 2018, 10:15 AM
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Well, he might not have the facilities, but at least he'll never have to worry about a towel problem.
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Doeren wouldn't know what to do with the facilities
Aug 5, 2018, 10:17 AM
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...even if he had them. I hope we pulverize them this year.
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Solid Orange [1328]
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Re: TNET: Swinney responds to Dave Doeren's facilities remark: "Buildings don't win"
Aug 5, 2018, 10:17 AM
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I don’t disagree with Doreen. About the only thing I credit Tommy Bowden with is beating the facilities drum and putting the wheel in motion to end up with what we have today....football is won by players; players like nice facilities. Facilities don’t win games, but you have to have better than average to compete!
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i don't care what the money line is on that game.......
Aug 5, 2018, 10:35 AM
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i am loading up on us because we are going to beat the living $#!t out of them.
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Game Changer [1723]
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Re: TNET: Swinney responds to Dave Doeren's facilities remark: "Buildings don't win"
Aug 5, 2018, 10:39 AM
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Just for that we are going to curb stomp nc state this year. The last 2 years have been close. However, this year won't.
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Standout [300]
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Re: TNET: Swinney responds to Dave Doeren's facilities remark: "Buildings don't win"
Aug 5, 2018, 10:42 AM
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The Coots of the ACC
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Re: TNET: Swinney responds to Dave Doeren's facilities remark: "Buildings don't win"
Aug 5, 2018, 11:16 AM
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Playing the victim will never win games.
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Re: TNET: Swinney responds to Dave Doeren's facilities remark: "Buildings don't win"
Aug 5, 2018, 11:16 AM
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Playing the victim will never win games.
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Re: TNET: Swinney responds to Dave Doeren's facilities remark: "Buildings don't win"
Aug 5, 2018, 11:17 AM
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Playing the victim will never win games.
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Dirty Dave’s at his best.
Aug 5, 2018, 11:23 AM
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When asked a few years ago what was the highlight of the Clemson loss he says “well, we knocked their tailback out”. That’s class.
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Orange Blooded [3981]
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Re: TNET: Swinney responds to Dave Doeren's facilities remark: "Buildings don't win"
Aug 5, 2018, 11:30 AM
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I didn’t take anything wrong with what Doeren said about the facilities. They are having to build a program with less support financially.
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Re: TNET: Swinney responds to Dave Doeren's facilities remark: "Buildings don't win"
Aug 5, 2018, 11:37 AM
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That butt hole wasn't around when we were sadden bc the ACC schools wouldn't do more with FB and their FB facilities and help in making the ACC a power FB conferense. Iron sharpens Iron, and most ACC schools Iron was to soft to help us out with sharpening our iron. We had to go out of conferense to play tougher schools to help make us tougher, and that is what Dabo brought to Clemson, games with better FB schools and stronger thicker Iron!!!
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Re: TNET: Swinney responds to Dave Doeren's facilities remark: "Buildings don't win"
Aug 5, 2018, 12:15 PM
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I don't care much for Doeren or NC State, but I will say they do give us fits every year.
I like seeing good competition in the ACC. Makes us look good.
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Re: TNET: Swinney responds to Dave Doeren's facilities remark: "Buildings don't win"
Aug 5, 2018, 12:36 PM
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I think we curb stomp them this year, their defense is worse, their offense lost two really good players. They won't have near the horses this year to compete.
that 41-0 beatdown in 2014 will look like a cakewalk this year.
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I'm no Dave Doeren fan.
Aug 5, 2018, 12:54 PM
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He needs to clean up his sideline before he worries about anything else.
One of his staff roughed up Deshaun Watson when he went out on Doeren's sideline.
Last year, another staff person tried to knock our player that intercepted the ball to close out the game for Clemson when he went out of bounds on Doeren's sideline.
Doeren bragged about knocking out our running back.
Their fans act like rabid animals.
There is a culture problem at NC State and it starts at the top.
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Orange Beast [6466]
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Buildings with laptops Dave
Aug 5, 2018, 2:12 PM
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You need buildings AND laptops
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photo pretty well sums it up
Aug 5, 2018, 4:12 PM
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I know photos can be deceiving, but the photo used in this story pretty much sums up the demeanor of the NC State Head Coach. He’s looking away as Coach Swinney is approaching. My elders always taught me to look them in the eye. He likes to chirp a lot. Let’s take care of business and hear him whine some more. #ALLIN
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Re: TNET: Swinney responds to Dave Doeren's facilities remark: "Buildings don't win"
Aug 5, 2018, 4:19 PM
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These comments by DD were fine, nothing to see here... but maybe he needs to be focusing on James Madison so he doesn’t lay an egg like last year’s opener. Man I was hoping the Wolpfack would beat those Shamecocks...
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Re: TNET: Swinney responds to Dave Doeren's facilities remark: "Buildings don't win"
Aug 5, 2018, 6:39 PM
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To me, this would only be news the WEEK of the Wolfpack game.
otherwise, woopie
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Re: TNET: Swinney responds to Dave Doeren's facilities remark: "Buildings don't win"
Aug 5, 2018, 6:44 PM
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13 out of 14. Seems like they've come close to beating us a lot, eh? Right. Dream on Dave. Bring your laptops to the valley and show us how to lose again.
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Re: TNET: Swinney responds to Dave Doeren's facilities remark: "Buildings don't win"
Aug 10, 2018, 11:07 AM
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LMAO, "a play or two away". Sounds like Tommy Bowden.....
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