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Legend [16126]
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Just an FYI...Coots women's BB loses about $10 Million per year...
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Nov 17, 2023, 8:59 AM
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Not the smartest investment but I have coots constantly bringing up girls BB when I'm talking about football as if they are somehow on the same level. Talk about a practice in futility. No one ever accused them of being smart though.
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Heisman Winner [78855]
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How could they possibly lose that much money? They sell out every game,
Nov 17, 2023, 9:02 AM
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and "only" pay Dawn Staley three million a year?
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Paw Master [17246]
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Re: How could they possibly lose that much money? They sell out every game,
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Nov 17, 2023, 9:10 AM
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Because they sell season tickets for $55. The most expensive seats come to less than $500 including donation. And there is basically zero attributable media revenue.
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Asst Coach [885]
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Re: Just an FYI...Coots women's BB loses about $10 Million per year...
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Nov 17, 2023, 9:09 AM
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No one cares—-that is why that place will never be anything
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Freshman [-94]
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Re: Just an FYI...Coots women's BB loses about $10 Million per year...
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Nov 17, 2023, 10:19 AM
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What I have been saying
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Clemson Sports Icon [59560]
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Re: Just an FYI...Coots women's BB loses about $10 Million per year...
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Nov 17, 2023, 9:09 AM
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They promote the only thing they have to promote since their baseball program taken the north bound tracks out of Cootlumbia!!!
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Asst Coach [894]
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Source for $10 Million per year...???
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Nov 17, 2023, 9:12 AM
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When I looked it was “only” close to a $4million loss!
TIA
GO TIGERS!
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Athletic Dir [1167]
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From that article, the close to $10m is total expenses. It doesn't say that
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Nov 17, 2023, 9:40 AM
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is the loss. I think you're confused to what is what. They do have revenues.
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Athletic Dir [1167]
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I surmise they get way more than $10m in exposure and marketing
Nov 17, 2023, 9:30 AM
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value through the success of the program. So if you're right, it's still money very well spent.
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Legend [16126]
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Moreso than football or Men's Basketball???
Nov 17, 2023, 9:32 AM
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Come on man...Its not even on the radar compared to those two sports.
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Athletic Dir [1167]
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You just changed the topic, you stated that it was a bad investment to
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Nov 17, 2023, 9:39 AM
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spend $10m on women's basketball. Taking that in a vacuum, I think it's very evident that they get more than $10m in exposure through their success and visibility. I would argue it's not even close to a bad investment, it's probably a home run. Also, that $10m selected from the article says nothing about the income generated by the basketball team through sponsorships and ticket sales, so insinuating it's a $10m deficit is wrong.
So, are you now asking whether women's basketball gets more value than football in exposure? That's a different topic as a whole.
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Legend [16126]
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You don't have a clue what you're talking about...
Nov 17, 2023, 9:47 AM
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Paying $10 Million dollars for a HoF head coach in either Men's basketball or football would draw 5 maybe 10 times the exposure of WBB. Its not even in the same realm.
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Athletic Dir [1167]
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So they shouldn't invest in women's basketball and be a top program
Nov 17, 2023, 9:50 AM
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in the country and gain exposure through that sport? I'm sorry you feel that way, and am really really happy you don't run the Clemson athletics department with that narrow minded vision.
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Legend [16126]
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I'm glad your opinion doesn't matter.***
Nov 17, 2023, 10:40 AM
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Athletic Dir [1167]
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Perfect, now neither of ours does.***
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Nov 17, 2023, 11:00 AM
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Campus Hero [13855]
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That's not how things actually work though
Nov 17, 2023, 10:03 AM
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They can't just decide to dump Staley and go get Nick Saban or Bill Self instead. They already have Staley and she seems happy to stay there, so they should absolutely keep her! And they aren't paying her 10mil either.
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Re: You don't have a clue what you're talking about...
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Only if they win. Didn't work out for A&M. If we could guarantee a coach was going to win multiple titles and be the pinnacle of the sport, we'd pay whatever we could to get him. But that doesn't exist. Dabo's salary didn't get $10M until he won a NC.
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Orange Elite [5125]
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Re: Moreso than football or Men's Basketball???
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Nov 17, 2023, 10:01 AM
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What does this have to do with football or men’s basketball?
Nothing.
Do they benefit from the money they spend on women’s basketball? You bet your ### they do.
Is the benefit in revenue? Nope. That doesn’t mean there’s no benefit.
HTH
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Game Day Hero [4379]
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Re: Just an FYI...Coots women's BB loses about $10 Million per year...
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Nov 17, 2023, 9:32 AM
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Any sport without media revenue is guaranteed to lose money, right?
I'd expect only football and men's basketball have a chance to be revenue positive and I'm sure they aren't at many schools.
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Orange Elite [5125]
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Re: Just an FYI...Coots women's BB loses about $10 Million per year...
Nov 17, 2023, 9:44 AM
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Only 2 sports make money: football and men’s basketball.
Every other sport loses money so I guess those are bad investments?
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Game Day Hero [4572]
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Nov 17, 2023, 11:22 AM
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They are certainly not good for the bottom line, but do have a place if one could get the cost of travel down. If you are a revenue eating sport instead of a revenue generating sport then you shouldn't be playing teams 750 miles away from home!
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The return on investment in college basketball is not very good...
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Nov 17, 2023, 9:50 AM
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men included, when compared to college football.
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Why do we care about the chickens womans Basketball team?
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Nov 17, 2023, 9:50 AM
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Let’s let them keep it, they really don’t have anything else, it’s really a best case scenario for a rival!
We don’t give them a chance to be good at anything else but we did give them a gift last year just to keep them hoping.
I believe this team is going to beat them soundly this season, like usual!
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Wrong Bored***
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Nov 17, 2023, 10:07 AM
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Game Day Hero [4572]
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Re: Just an FYI...Coots women's BB loses about $10 Million per year...
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Nov 17, 2023, 11:19 AM
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Title Nine forces the funding of sports that are drains on funding and doesn't remotely cover the cost of operation. Any sport that is running in the red should be discontinued or only allowed once funding is secured to be cost neutral, like any business! But that is a real world problem not one where income generating sports are forced to pay for non-generating sports to appease the PC crowd.
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Ring of Honor [22971]
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If it's a business, shouldn't we be paying the players?***
Nov 17, 2023, 11:47 AM
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CU Guru [1585]
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Re: Just an FYI...Coots women's BB loses about $10 Million per year...
Nov 17, 2023, 11:23 AM
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I did not know that.
Any idea how much our WBB team loses annually? Just curious.
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Freshman [-94]
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The woke are not going to like this.
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