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Orange Elite [5595]
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Losing Mukuba was a big deal
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Jan 3, 2025, 10:55 AM
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Dabo’s (and the defensive staff’s) failure to retain him is a real black mark
If you are going to hang your hat on development/retention you simply cannot let guys like him go.
If you are going to spurn the portal, you have zero margin of error with guys like Mukuba.
It’s a shame too (and in fairness to him), that he developed more at Texas than he did in his time at Clemson.
That being said - I still wouldn’t trade any of our top 4 receivers for Beau Collins
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:03 AM
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I believe a better statement would be "losing a motivated Mukuba was a big deal".
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Orange Phenom [14867]
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:15 AM
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Well, he was an All American freshman at Clemson. That's not to say he couldn't be further developed. Also, there's a good chance he just wanted to play close to home.
Of course, I, too, would've loved for him to remain at Clemson.
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:34 AM
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I don’t buy for one minute the “ development” deal. He left for $$$. He would have developed fine at Clemson. His departure was slightly before Dabo accepted he’d have to play the NIL game.
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:36 AM
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I've read that this was largely because he has a wife and child to take care of.
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
Jan 7, 2025, 8:50 AM
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He does not have Autism and he is not large
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He literally posted standing on business when
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Jan 3, 2025, 12:59 PM
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He left. Interpret what you want out of that, but I took it as he got a lot of money to go to Texas
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:15 AM
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Mukuba's issues were more to do with his injury history. As a result, other players stepped up, and we developed Barnes. While it would have been great to have a healthy, and motivated Mukuba, are you going to argue that he's played better than Barnes did this year? They both had extremely similar years, numbers wise. That's what needs to be looked at in this situation, because that's who he was losing playing time to.
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Facts***
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:20 AM
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Orange Elite [5595]
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Mukuba played better than Barnes and Ill argue that any day
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:22 AM
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Mukuba’s got more talent and he played inspired football this year
If you disagree, it’s because you got a big honking set of orange colored glasses on
Mukuba made great strides this year. I’m happy for him too. As Dabo says (and I take him at his word) Mukuba did everything Clemson asked from him
I like a player that says “but they didn’t ask enough”
That’s the guy you want on your team
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Re: Mukuba played better than Barnes and Ill argue that any day
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:31 AM
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Here's the numbers hombre. Feel free arguing that position all you want as people argue dumb positions all the time, but you still refused to acknowledge he had injury issues.
Tackles-63, Solo-38, Ast-25, Sacks-0, FF-1, Int-5.
Tackles-61, Solo-36, Ast-25, Sacks-0, FF-0, Int-4.
Those are awfully similar numbers, especially comparing a Sophomore to a Senior, but sure, it's all because of orange colored glasses.
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Orange Immortal [60965]
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Re: Mukuba played better than Barnes and Ill argue that any day
Jan 3, 2025, 3:25 PM
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Regardless of anything you say to defend a Texass player to Tiger fans on a Tiger sport board. I'll post Khalil Barnes (A Tiger player) stats here again on a Clemson board!!!
2023 Freshman All-American who became the first Clemson player in the Dabo Swinney era to record multiple forced fumbles and multiple interceptions in a freshman season … enters 2024 credited with 41 tackles (5.0 for loss), six pass breakups, a team-high three interceptions, three forced fumbles, a sack and a fumble recovery (which he returned 42 yards for a touchdown) in 499 snaps over 13 games (seven starts) … was one of three players in the country (and the only freshman) with at least three interceptions, three or more forced fumbles and one sack in 2023.
IMO, I'll take a home grown talent that Barnes has been since he walked on the field at Death Valley any and every time they become eligible to play college FB. To even be clearer, Barnes is a Tiger player that is still with our team making plays and showing exceptional talent at his playing position, he is not that Mukuba guy that ran away from equal competition at Clemson.
When speaking about Khalil Barnes or Andrew Mukuba at the same time, Barnes is the player that we should be praising over the one from another country that doesn't understand the true meaning of commitment, and when the going gets tough he runs off to play for another team that didn't have another talented Safety that would force him to watch the game from the sidelines the way that Khalil Barnes did to Andrew Mukuba when he was at Clemson.
My blood has run orange ever since I just turned 10 years old 63 years and just over 1 month ago, and that's the color they will drain out of my old dead body right before I'm carried to my final resting place, Go Tigers, and Go Tiger Nation!!!
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Re: Mukuba played better than Barnes and Ill argue that any day
Jan 7, 2025, 8:09 AM
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I told you with actual stats, that are #### near identical, so there's that. I get you want to go with PFF because it confirms your priors, it's not the only metric. Next, lets add in the fact that has already been mentioned, that you are comparing a Sophomore to a Senior, and while Barnes, according to PFF, suffered some regression in his Sophomore campaign, he still put up a season nearly identical to Mukuba. Would you like to take a look at what Mukuba did in his Sophomore season? Here, take a look:
Tackles-53, Solo-31, Assisted-22, Sacks-0, FF-0, FR-0, Ints.-1
Now, let's do his Junior year, shall we:
Tackles-42, Solo-28, Assisted-14, Sacks-0, FF-0, FR-1, Ints.-0
Now, let's just compare both players. We'll do full careers even though for one, that's 4 seasons, and for the other, it's only 2.
Mukuba:
Tackles-205, Solo-127, Assisted-78, Sacks-1, FF-1, FR-1, Ints.-6
Barnes:
Tackles-99, Solo-69, Assisted-30, Sacks-1, FF-3, FR-1, Ints.-7
So yes, I'll argue that not only is Barnes better than Mukuba now, he's better than Mukuba was as a Freshman, as a Sophomore, and will end up being a better player when it's all said and done.
Facts don't care about your feelings.
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Orange Phenom [14228]
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There's alot more to playing safety than tackling numbers
Jan 7, 2025, 8:20 AM
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Anyone that starts is going to get a decent number of tackled.
I don't think PFF is perfect by any means, but they are at least attempting to evaluate their actual performance on every single play. Blown coverages don't show up in tackling stats. Landing a thumping hit that knocks the ball loose might show up as one pass defensed, at best, but can be much more than that. There's just so much that doesn't get captured in such a basic stat like tackles.
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Re: There's alot more to playing safety than tackling numbers
Jan 7, 2025, 8:29 AM
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That's why I showed the Int stats as well, which would indicate coverage skills. If we want to add in PBU's, through their first 2 seasons, they were identical, with 6 in their freshman campaigns, and 3 in their sophomore campaigns.
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Re: It aint even close
Jan 7, 2025, 9:03 AM
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And maybe you should go have a good cry in the corner as this appears to have hurt you deeply.
Correct. It shouldn't be an argument. I'll take the guy who's produced more at a younger age with a higher ceiling.
Since you're such a PFF fan, do you happen to know what Mukuba's PFF grade was after his Sophomore season? I'll help you, it was a 50.2.
You can act like letting Mukuba walk was a big deal, but no, it wasn't.
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Orange Elite [5595]
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Ok Doc, get out of your time machine and step into present day
Jan 7, 2025, 12:08 PM
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This current season 2024
Mukuba > Barnes
Can we agree?
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Orange Elite [5595]
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Thats another good point
Jan 7, 2025, 12:10 PM
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It pains me to admit it, but mukuba played better competition this year and the comparison isn’t close
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Mukuba played better than Barnes and Ill argue that any day
Jan 3, 2025, 11:37 AM
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That makes zero sense. Didn’t ask “enough” ? I guess Clemson didn’t ask enough from :
D Lawrence
C Wilkins
AJ Terrell
T Higgins etc …..
Be a leader - push yourself- be the man. He left for $$$$ .
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Orange Elite [5306]
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Re: Mukuba played better than Barnes and Ill argue that any day
Jan 7, 2025, 8:22 AM
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You can say that again..and again....and again. 😉
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Mukuba played better than Barnes and Ill argue that any day
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:37 AM
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That makes zero sense. Didn’t ask “enough” ? I guess Clemson didn’t ask enough from :
D Lawrence
C Wilkins
AJ Terrell
T Higgins etc …..
Be a leader - push yourself- be the man. He left for $$$$ .
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Re: Mukuba played better than Barnes and Ill argue that any day
Jan 3, 2025, 2:51 PM
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Those guys played when Clemson had better supporting coaches to develop players, many of whom have moved on / retired. Mukuba repeatedly said he wasn’t being pushed enough developmentally. Hopefully this will be fixed with Dabo’s imminent staff changes
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This years Mukuba was not who was at Clemson
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:39 AM
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People see him do good now but they forget the fans were holding the door for him because of his bad play. He stayed hurt his entire sophomore season and then was playing scared his junior year and would not hit anyone. He was the poster child for arm tackles. That’s why he got beat out by Barnes and left.
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Re: Mukuba played better than Barnes and Ill argue that any day
Jan 3, 2025, 2:32 PM
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I haven't and I'm not going to search for any of Mukuba stats at a Texass board, but I did check on Barnes stats at his roster name on our board. IMO Khalil Barnes is more than good enough to play his position for any team in the country regardless of what Mukuba's stats are at Texass!!!
Freshman All-American who became the first Clemson player in the Dabo Swinney era to record multiple forced fumbles and multiple interceptions in a freshman season … enters 2024 credited with 41 tackles (5.0 for loss), six pass breakups, a team-high three interceptions, three forced fumbles, a sack and a fumble recovery (which he returned 42 yards for a touchdown) in 499 snaps over 13 games where 7 of those starts for our Tigers...
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Legend [7082]
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that's just sour grapes - Mukuba was and is a very good player
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:59 AM
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sucks we didn't keep him
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:18 AM
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Mukuba has repeatedly been positive about the program
overall but has also remained consistent in saying he didn’t feel like he was being challenged/developed enough at Clemson, which is totally unacceptable on our end. Definitely agree with OP losing him is a black mark on our staff
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:19 AM
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Do we think Barrett Carter developed?
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:34 AM
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Barrett Carter was a tremendous disappointment in his senior season. He wasn't used properly either, thanks to Wes. I cannot express how glad I am that he's outta here as DC. He hurt Woodaz, Sammy Brown, Peter Woods, and shall I go on? He (Goodwin) wasted a lot of defensive talent at Clemson.
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What do you mean he wasnt used properly?
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:57 AM
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He was used properly and played to the best of his ability. He was what he was. Stop trying to scapegoat Wes because Carter was what he was. We’re moving on for crying out loud, let it go.
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CU Medallion [19663]
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I'm glad Carter came back for a Sr. year as I'm sure he made a difference
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Jan 3, 2025, 12:13 PM
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enough in some of our tighter games to push us on the right side. Having said that, this guy would tweet up a storm of support and rah rah during the week for his mates but come gameday we just didn't see that same type of leadership on the field. Maybe it's a confidence issue for him but our D could have really used his weekday mentality out there on Saturdays, and I just didn't see it.
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It was one guy who wanted to go home. Lets not exaggerate things.
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:19 AM
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That’s way too much drama dude.
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Orange Elite [5595]
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Thats a load of crap
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:25 AM
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The guy wants to be a first round NFL draft pick
You make him out to be some home sick puppy. Don’t recall him saying that he missed his mommy.
It’s a moot point, but he’d still be playing for Clemson if BV hadn’t left
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Re: Thats a load of crap
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:32 AM
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You have no idea if he would've stayed.
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110%er [3854]
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Again, youre WILDLY exaggerating.
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And making it up as you go, as in speculation.
Makuba said he didn’t feel challenged enough and he was returning home along with a pile of cash. Those are the facts.
That, and it was one guy. The only starter we’ve ever lost in the portal, and he was undoubtedly being pushed by Barnes. It was one guy. You made a mountain out of a mole hill.
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Dynasty Maker [3262]
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
Jan 3, 2025, 11:20 AM
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He didn't want to play for wes...pretty obvious and maybe more effort should have been made for retention.
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:20 AM
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Yes, we should have kept him in a cage in the basement until game day and then let him out… smh
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Orange Elite [5595]
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Maybe a DC thats laced em up before
Jan 3, 2025, 11:29 AM
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Would have made him think twice?
In retrospect, a DC that’s never called a play or never played a down of football was a bad idea
I admit, I was 110% on the Goodwin train and I bought into the hype hook line and sinker
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When you practiced against DJU and that Clemson WR room
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:24 AM
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while being coached by Mickey Conn...
development equals 0
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agree saw posts about collins last night
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:25 AM
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but reality is we didnt miss him at wr this season. we did miss mukuba though
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:31 AM
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How would you suggest they not let a kid go that wants to leave? Tie them up? Of course he developed more because he had more experience. Stands to reason that a guy is going to be better as a senior than he is as a freshman. Would hope that you get better at your job as the years pass.
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
Jan 3, 2025, 11:35 AM
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Dabo’s (and the defensive staff’s) failure to retain him is a real black mark
If you are going to hang your hat on development/retention you simply cannot let guys like him go.
If you are going to spurn the portal, you have zero margin of error with guys like Mukuba.
It’s a shame too (and in fairness to him), that he developed more at Texas than he did in his time at Clemson.
That being said - I still wouldn’t trade any of our top 4 receivers for Beau Collins
Should have just payed the man. Total shift this year. NIL came through big for us this year. It is clear Dabo has the NIL way more organized, and funded this year. Miller should get a deal any day now. The retention was crazy
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:36 AM
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Not really, we could not afford both he and Mickens. I thought the latter held down the fort. Makuba had a nice play to seal the game against ASU, but again, we could nto afford both when Texas came in with a wad of drought. The staff made the right call here.
Makuba
Total Tackles: 49(0 for loss)
Interceptions: 4
Pass Breakups: 6
Forced Fumbles: 1
Mickens
Total Tackles: 85 (6.0 for loss)
Interceptions: 2
Pass Breakups: 7
Forced Fumbles 0
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
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Jan 3, 2025, 11:39 AM
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I've seen several folks here saying that he had a small child back in Texas where he is from. Which would make sense since he now sports "SR" on his jersey.
Not sure if its true but I have to imagine that was a pretty big factor
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
Jan 3, 2025, 11:43 AM
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Look at it from Mukaba's standpoint and what Texas has done the last 2 years compared to what we did.
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
Jan 3, 2025, 11:50 AM
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I think he wanted to return to his home state of Texas.
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every team is going to have to get used to this trend. ITs not the same as it
Jan 3, 2025, 11:58 AM
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used to be. We will lose players in the future that we just lose. Sometimes for no good reason.
All teams in the NCAA will go through this. Can we fill those holes is the new challenge. Kids are easily swayed and when there are no hurdles or penalties for transferring then it'll continue.
I'll be surprised if we return all those receivers next season. Transfer POrtal opens back up in April. Alot of phone calls and emails will be flying around this off season regardless of what you think or what the rules are. If somebody offers me 2 million to leave my job to go another, i'm out too.
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
Jan 3, 2025, 12:04 PM
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Nobody knows the real reasons of why most kids leave, he could have wanted more money that than Dabo could have afforded to give him, it happens, and we move on!!!
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Happy for Mukuba that he was able to step it up like he did in his
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Jan 3, 2025, 12:20 PM
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free agent / draft season. Not having to compete as much for reps and snaps with equally talented underclassmen here certainly seemed to help drive up his stock.
He's got a young family to provide for, he got to play a season at home, and he is in the CFP still. Not sure if him staying here would have had any impact on our season's fortunes or not considering who we had in his stead, so he benefitted there also.
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
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Jan 3, 2025, 12:22 PM
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Where do you think he lear how to play like he has? He didn't become good overnight by Texas coaches.
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
Jan 3, 2025, 2:36 PM
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Player development is not linear as like learning to parallel park, it happens when it happens. I also believe he played hurt his last year at Clemson. There is no way to know if he would not make a similar jump in performance after his 4th year and having recovered his health had he stayed at CU.
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Bo Collins too***
Jan 3, 2025, 2:47 PM
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
Jan 3, 2025, 2:58 PM
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I don’t see it that way. Mukuba was homesick. He developed quite well earning Freshman All American, ACC defensive rookie of the year, All-ACC second team, and third team amongst safeties who are NFL starters that finished above him in All-ACC voting. About the only stat that has really boomed is his amount of interceptions while at Texas. He had one in three years at Clemson and five so far at Texas.
Would have been great to have kept him at Clemson but it’s hard when a former refugee gets homesick for Austin and Texas comes calling.
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
Jan 3, 2025, 3:03 PM
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I don't think it would've mattered with the current coaching staff on defense aside from Eason and Rumph. We would've had the same Mukuba we had before he left
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Paw Master [16501]
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
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Jan 7, 2025, 8:43 AM
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Move on already. It has to be miserable dwelling in the past over something you have no idea what really went down. He left, next man up!
How much did Clemson offer him to stay? Did he or his GF/wife want to take the baby to be closer to family? Give us the scoop on what is none of our business.
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Game Changer [1970]
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
Jan 7, 2025, 9:34 AM
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100% agree
The country club/Sunday School approach in the football offices has not been good for player development. Clemson has been soft
Guys like Mukuba came to Clemson to be coached by Venables and he left and has Wes Goodwin as a replacement
I hope the rumor is true about Batson being encouraged to retire. Need a new mind in the weight room. The explosion is missing with Clemson. Need someone who isn’t still using the same workouts from the 90’s who just loads up as heavy of weights as possible on squat and bench
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Game Day Hero [4236]
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HE LEFT FOR $$$ AND GOING BACK TO TEXAS***
Jan 7, 2025, 9:40 AM
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Varsity [103]
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Re: Losing Mukuba was a big deal
Jan 7, 2025, 11:17 AM
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I think losing Makuba might have been the wake up call that set into motion the changes that we saw be so successful at player retention this year.
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