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Will Heldt and Tristan Smith
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These are the type of moves that we have desperately needed the last few years.
With what this team returns next year + these impact players from the portal, I am as optimistic about our ability to truly compete for a national title as I have been since those Deshaun and Trevor years.
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Welcome back
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Dec 19, 2024, 5:02 PM
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Let’s see if your spot on the bandwagon is still available.
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Re: Welcome back
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Dec 19, 2024, 5:03 PM
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"bandwagon" lol
Nice troll.
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Paw Master [17093]
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Now he's not just gatekeeping Tigernet, he's moved on to the entire fanbase...
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Some ego on that guy huh?
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Re: Now he's not just gatekeeping Tigernet, he's moved on to the entire fanbase...
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I find it funny tbh.
FM and JK are my favorite posters.
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Paw Master [17093]
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They are essentially the same troll, just different sports***
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National Champion [7453]
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Re: They are essentially the same troll, just different sports***
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Only if this individual is a level IV Schizophrenic..
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Dec 19, 2024, 8:36 PM
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as their respective personalities may both be considered annoying that is where the similarities stop. 1 invokes murderous thoughts, the other has not.(Not my thoughts, of course)Placing them in the same group led to the mistaken identity & the hypothesis:
that JK and FM are the same individual)...these are mistakes borne out of the limitations of binary thought.
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Re: Welcome back
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I can say with confidence and firsthand knowledge, that Leon is not a bandwagon fan lol.
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TigerNet Legend [146392]
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He is a bandwagon Dabo fan
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Today he is optimistic about the program under Dabo, yesterday Dabo was done and should retire. Call it what you want.
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National Champion [7453]
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Re: He is a bandwagon Dabo fan
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Dec 19, 2024, 5:20 PM
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Lol
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Ring of Honor [22004]
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Being objective means not always liking the current situation.
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Dec 19, 2024, 5:21 PM
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Being objective is a good thing, I think.
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Paw Master [17093]
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Not when you're talking to a cultist***
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TigerNet Legend [146392]
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I dont think you know the definition of objective
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if you define this as objective…. “It’s time for Dabo to retire. He is done.” Or maybe your objective is broken if you are going to tout your optimism for a program under a coach a few weeks after saying he’s done?
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The sole definition of objectivity is the antithesis of "feelings".
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Dec 19, 2024, 8:39 PM
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hth Stanley
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Re: The sole definition of objectivity is the antithesis of "feelings".
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Re: He is a bandwagon Dabo fan
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Dec 19, 2024, 5:22 PM
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To be fair, we didn’t have the Purdue guy yesterday…
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Commissioner [1241]
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Re: He is a bandwagon Dabo fan
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Dec 19, 2024, 5:25 PM
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Like I said, as the person who took him to his first Clemson game.. I can speak with confidence in saying he’s not a bandwagon fan lol.
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TigerNet Legend [146392]
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You are clearly biased
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Dec 19, 2024, 5:27 PM
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Thank goodness I can be objective.
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Re: You are clearly biased
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Yeah that’s definitely what you are lmfao.
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Correct
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Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
adjective
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(of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.
But I do appreciate you getting him started on the right track.
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Commissioner [1241]
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Re: Correct
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I’ve never seen one of your posts/comments not be impacted by personal opinion/belief.
You hit that one on the head.
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It is fun to watch
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FM scramble trying to validate himself for his ego.
😂
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Re: It is fun to watch
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Gatekeeping a message board/fandom is so weird lol.
Like it’s never that serious. 😂
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Its like the 12th weirdest thing Ive done today.
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Don’t get too excited.
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Re: Its like the 12th weirdest thing Ive done today.
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That’s a good one lol. 😂
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Valley Protector [1401]
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Some of us don't need to be reminded of the warped, depraved blood rituals..
Dec 19, 2024, 8:11 PM
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you picked up from that filthy African tribe of canibals. These sadistic..barbarous rituals you practice and perform dailyas a devoted worshiper, of the pagan demigod of: forced sexual encounters(bluebeam) reveal that you...you sir...are under the thumb of the Adversary!
Thou has awakened the vengeance of our Lord; into the light I command thee, for all to see,
tremble before thee..before the wrath of God..you insolent Sunshine Pumper!
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When are you going to start? I want to write that date down***
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Re: He is a bandwagon Dabo fan
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Like a lot of us, he just wanted Dabo to do exactly what he just did with these 2 transfers. All any of us want is to see Clemson just get better and continue to be elite.
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What positions have we needed replacement players***
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Re: What positions have we needed replacement players***
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Start with OL. Why do you think we made 3 offers in 2023?
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Game Changer [2068]
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A better way to ask it -
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Dec 19, 2024, 6:15 PM
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Which players are you specifically wanting to replace?
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CU Medallion [20701]
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Re: A better way to ask it -
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Wrong way to look at it. If your culture is a meritocracy then you want a depth of quality players who compete for the right to be the starter, and you want them to fight like they have to earn their jobs from one game to the next. While every transfer may want to start, not every one of them does. If they are good, they may still get more playing time than where they came from. We see starters transferring, so playing time for them is not the main goal, and in some cases, neither is money. Some are just looking for a higher profile program that will help them get ready for the next level.
As my previous response stated, we were light on the OL, both in terms of quality and quantity, and we wanted to upgrade the talent. For me, that is how you use the portal and once you get past all the guys who are in it for the money, there is still considerable value in the portal if you do a good job on talent identification. Look at HS and how many 2 and 3 star players we developed into great players. Boulware and Renfrow say Hi, to name two. The portal is no different; it is just a matter of finding those diamonds in the rough and competing to get them on board when the needs arise and there are gaps to be filled.
I've always believed in selective and targeted, and not the FSU or CO approach. I think Brad has used it to his advantage in basketball. While somewhat apples and oranges compared to football, the premise is still valid.
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Game Changer [2068]
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TLDR. Sorry.
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Dec 19, 2024, 6:32 PM
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Kids typically transfer out of a school where they weren’t starting so they can start at another school.
Transfer kids move to transfer - not be depth.
With that clear - nobody is building depth with transfers. They bring in starters. With that said - which specific starters are you looking to push aside for a transfer?
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CU Medallion [20701]
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Re: TLDR. Sorry.
Dec 19, 2024, 6:50 PM
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Read what the SMU coach attributed as to the primary reason for their year over year success. He said it was all about 13 transfers they brought in as quality depth that made the difference. He said it made a huge difference in their conditioning because they weren't wearing out their starters and that allowed them to stay fresh throughout the games.
The reality is there are only a few open starting positions on most rosters, and those transfers do have to compete for those jobs whether they like it or not. The fact that each portal window has had 3000+ players tells you that the majority of those aren't going to transfer into starting roles but that isn't keeping them from transfering.
And I've already given you my take on how I look at it, which isn't about pushing any specific individual out but more of establishing a stronger culture of performance that lifts everyone's game.
Iron sharpens iron...
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Game Changer [2068]
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So you think portal kids are leaving his non-starting depth role
Dec 19, 2024, 6:59 PM
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to take on another depth role? That’s not what’s happening out here.
They want to start - that’s most often why they’re transferring. The elite are not taking portal guys to be backups. They are building their roster through HS recruiting and will add a starter as needed. Think of Andrew Makuba, for instance.
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CU Medallion [20701]
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Re: So you think portal kids are leaving his non-starting depth role
Dec 19, 2024, 7:01 PM
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Of course it's happening. There are way more transfers than there are starting jobs available. It's simple math. They may all want to start but most won't.
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Game Changer [2068]
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No sir. Look at the elite teams. Their transfers are starting and thats why
Dec 19, 2024, 7:05 PM
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they brought them in.
Transfers who don’t end up starting just transfer again. That’s what’s happening.
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Re: So you think portal kids are leaving his non-starting depth role
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wow this is so short-sighted. Yes, some kids are like this and it's the job as a recruiter to avoid them. But for the vast majority of the kids coming from the non-powerhouse schools, this is their chance to level up. You act like we all know who is going to be the best based on how they did when they were 15 years old. Every year there are first round picks from non-P4 schools. Last year there was a kid from Toledo. I am willing to bet that will change though because these kids are going to move from "Toledo" to Ohio State so they can get paid.
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Re: TLDR. Sorry.
Dec 19, 2024, 7:00 PM
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That's ok. It was probably over your head anyway and I should have known better than waste my time giving you a thoughtful response.
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Game Changer [2068]
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Now, now. Try to not be a dic k.***
Dec 19, 2024, 7:22 PM
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Re: He is a bandwagon Dabo fan
Dec 19, 2024, 7:27 PM
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Just DONATE. Dabo opened the portal. 110 Society. Let’s Go!
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Re: He is a bandwagon Dabo fan
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Yeah it's funny how we get 2 players and now we are title contenders. Lol Just admit all you portal whor e s are just happy we got anyone out of the portal.
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Re: Welcome back
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Indeed.
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Legend [6867]
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all these tourist claiming clemson
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ddub u know
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Re: Welcome back
Dec 19, 2024, 11:17 PM
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Let’s see if your spot on the bandwagon is still available.
Leon is the best poster on this forum. Far better than any of the drivel you subject readers to.
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110%er [3639]
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Re: Will Heldt and Tristan Smith
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Now that group of Clemson fans who said they wouldn’t contribute to NIL because Dabo had yet to show he was serious with the portal 👇
https://www.110society.com
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Re: Will Heldt and Tristan Smith
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Dec 19, 2024, 5:08 PM
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Time to pay up.
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Re : They Are The Ones Paying For The Next Death Valley Pizza Party???***
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Need to make this a separate post.....
Dec 19, 2024, 6:57 PM
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fans can make a statement. After all we are the end customer.
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Re: Will Heldt and Tristan Smith
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Still need a LB, Safety, Punter and a CB!
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National Champion [7453]
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Re: Will Heldt and Tristan Smith
Dec 19, 2024, 5:48 PM
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LB: Disagree. Woodaz and Brown are coming back.
Punter: Not with Jack Smith.
Safety: I agree.
CB: Disagree. Avieon and Hampton are coming back.
I'll add...
DT: If we lose Capehart and Tre Williams.
RB: If someone transfers out.
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I disagree at linebacker. We lose carter.
Dec 19, 2024, 7:04 PM
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Maybe Crayton or Anderson step up but they haven't shown me a lot yet. Even so, you're 1 or 2 injuries away from having a mess.
The hs recruit we signed is coming off ACL surgery.
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Re: Will Heldt and Tristan Smith
Dec 19, 2024, 8:32 PM
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Yes we need those. Depth. Unless you wanna see 4th quarter collapses again.
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Game Changer [2068]
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Im curious - which players at those positions are you looking to replace
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with a transfer?
And again, kids aren’t transferring around to be depth.
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Do you mean like which kids among our 85 scholarships today with eligibility
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remaining that aren't leaving the program through matriculation, NFL draft, or transfer portal should we cast off to make room for new transfer additions?
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Game Changer [2068]
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^^ gets it***
Dec 19, 2024, 7:24 PM
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Game Changer [2068]
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What positions would you have replaced with a transfer?
Dec 19, 2024, 6:00 PM
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I’ll say it - we could’ve used a starting QB to replace DJ, but what other positions would you have pushed aside for a transfer player?
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Re: What positions would you have replaced with a transfer?
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This is easy.
2021: OL
2022: CB
2023: WR
2024: DE and S
2-3 transfers every year. That’s all. We have, in the past, offered high school recruits late in the cycle, which prevented us from pursuing players in the portal.
Go back to the 2022 class for example. BV leaves for OU and we had a few 5 star decommits. We offered Jaheim Lawson, Kobe McCloud, Kylon Griffin, Myles Oliver, and Cole Turner really late.
Was it necessary to offer 5 low level 3 star recruits that were developmental projects?
All of them redshirted. 3 of them are backups in year 3. 2 of them have never played.
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Re: What positions would you have replaced with a transfer?
Dec 19, 2024, 6:56 PM
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Leon, you don't get it. He wants NAMES... 
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Game Changer [2068]
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Youre confused guy.***
Dec 19, 2024, 7:24 PM
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Game Changer [2068]
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So your shopping at Walmart huh?
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Again, please specify the current starting players you want to replace with a transfer player who wasn’t starting at his previous school.
I mentioned Andrew Makuba. Look at the starting QBs who have transferred. Look at the elite depth charts - transfer kids have taken starting roles because the staff has moved another guy aside. They don’t have a Walmart list of “depth” from the portal.
Typically when a transfer kid moves he’s moving because he was only depth on his previous team. If he doesn’t start at his new school, he’ll transfer again.
You’re confusing schools who build their roster with transfers to replace transfers with schools who take a limited number of transfers to fill starting roles. Like Makuba. Like the QBs. Like many WRs.
We will not be replacing 10 transfers with other transfers, and we will not be pushing aside a starter for a transfer. We will however bring in a guy intended to start in a position of need, like the DE. We will always look at guys who are willing to compete for a role, like the WR, but those guys are few and far between.
Kids aren’t transitioning from a depth role at school X to take on another depth role at school Y. That’s not what’s happening. Teams are either using the portal on a large scale, like Ole Miss and FSU, or they’re getting transfer starters, like UGA and Alabama. The best programs are using only key, starting transfers. That’s what we just did with the new DE. We will not be signing guys who will come to be depth. Sorry.
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Very much agree. I’m happy Dabo is on board and excited about sat. But it gets old when people make excuses for him. Let’s be happy he is adapting and look forward to sat and beyond.
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You nailed it!***
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Standout [201]
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Re: Will Heldt and Tristan Smith
Dec 19, 2024, 7:26 PM
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The time is now! Support Dabo and DONATE to the 110 Society tonight. I just did. Portal is officially open.
Let’s Go. Beat Texas!
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Valley Protector [1401]
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Show your receipt or you lying like a m fer about the 110 contribution..If you
Dec 19, 2024, 8:17 PM
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gonna come up in here big timing...please show your receipt*
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Game Changer [1648]
TigerPulse: 100%
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Re: Will Heldt and Tristan Smith
Dec 19, 2024, 9:51 PM
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I’d like a LB and potentially a RB depending on how Saturday goes. I am happy to see the adaption to the current environment. Thanks coach!
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Game Changer [2044]
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Re: Will Heldt and Tristan Smith
Dec 19, 2024, 11:31 PM
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what makes them "impact players"... they both have to compete for their jobs just like everyone else...
explain how, if we had both of these guys on the team this season, anything would have been different. That they were the difference...
I would wait but #### will freeze over first...
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Tiger Titan [47408]
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Its about time.
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Dec 20, 2024, 12:39 AM
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Glad we are finally willing to start outbidding other teams for impact players in the portal.
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Tiger Spirit [9534]
TigerPulse: 100%
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Re: Will Heldt and Tristan Smith
Dec 20, 2024, 12:49 AM
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Cade has to significantly improve for that to be a possibility
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