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110%er [3972]
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Saw someone asking if there is a difference between Republicans and MAGAs...
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Mar 26, 2025, 10:57 AM
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And it reminded me of this episode from Newsroom. It's a bit dated, but I think the point still rings true.
The video clip is less than 2 minutes long, but I think it does a good job of distinguishing the difference in what we've traditionally known republicans to be vs. what the then-emerging MAGA faction champions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbErkUE3Az0
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Top TigerNet [30119]
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Basically Pubs are do nothing bureacrats (see Mitch McConnell)
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Mar 26, 2025, 11:31 AM
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who talk big, get rich, but do nothing.
MAGA's ... well, obviously they are doing stuff ... otherwise, the snowflakes wouldn't be melting so hard.
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Clemson Icon [24607]
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Mitch McConnell is responsible for packing The Supreme Court with partisans.
Mar 26, 2025, 11:39 AM
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I'm surprised he's not a hero to MAGAts.
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McConnell has to be sick knowing that he finally realized his long-term plan
Mar 26, 2025, 12:53 PM
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only for Trump to blow it up immediately by fighting the very system that empowered him.
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Re: Basically Pubs are do nothing bureacrats (see Mitch McConnell)
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Mar 26, 2025, 11:41 AM
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Pubs are people that have principles and own opinions. MAGA folks are just part of a nutty cult and have opinions that change depending on what their cult leader believes. They are not individuals or critical thinkers.
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1st Rounder [630]
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And liberals and never Trumpers
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Mar 26, 2025, 11:41 AM
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Spend hours and hours on Tnet screaming and crying about things that the Trump administration is, or is not doing. All president's have done wrong and stupid things over the years, but liberals and never Trumpers have turned crying into an Olympic sport.
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Ring of Honor [21496]
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That is a pot calling the kettle black.***
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Mar 26, 2025, 12:41 PM
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1st Rounder [630]
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No
Mar 26, 2025, 12:52 PM
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Not even close. But, enjoy yourself anyway.
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National Champion [7469]
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Re: Basically Pubs are do nothing bureacrats (see Mitch McConnell)
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Mar 26, 2025, 1:18 PM
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The Republican establishment was happy to get elected for decades by simply being "not Democrats". However on the rare occasion they actually prevailed they governed like the controlled opposition party they actually were. No agenda, no plan, just "hey isn't it great the Dems aren't in charge " and expected us to keep lapping it up forever I suppose. Trump is here because of the complete abdication by Pub leadership to do any ####ing thing when they actually had a chance beyond the occasional tax cut. If you're whining about the demise of that reality then you're a moron.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [106622]
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I'm a conservative.
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Mar 26, 2025, 12:07 PM
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At different times that's been a democrat, other times that's been a republican. Other times it's been a Dixiecrat. Other times it's been a Democratic Republican. Liberals have been Democrats, they were also republicans, and way back they were federalists.
Truth of the matter is politics are no different today, in America, than they were in the UK, or in Athens, or anything democracy in between.
The one consistent theme in politics is there is always a conflict, always some party, or world view that's generally "liberal" or "conservative". Parties come and go. Nations and states come and go. But the ultimate political divide in America today is the same as in the UK, France, Germany, Brazil, and in ancient democracies like the Greeks, even the Romans to a degree.
That difference is simple. You can see it on our bright red map republicans like to post, that shows the massive sea of red, with little blue dots scattered about. The MAGA mouth breather thinks that map shows the vast majority of Americans as republicans, and conservatives. The thinking republican and democrat BOTH know, that map shows one thing almost as crystal clear as it could possibly be drawn.....
URBAN VERSUS RURAL.
And those urban blue dots, contain roughly the same number of people/voters as the vast rural sea of red. And honestly, it takes both liberals running urban areas, and conservatives running rural areas, to achieve optimal results. We are all the sum of our experiences. If you grow up in an urban area, then you know and understand the value of rules, regulations, control, and laws. If you grow up in a rural area you understand the value of independence, freedom, and individualism.
Fact is, since cities were invented, and politics were invented, urban areas, where many people live close together, those areas require more rules, regulations, taxes, infrastructure, less freedom, etc. Less freedom in cities. Burn your garbage in Manhattan and you will be arrested. Shoot fireworks in Manhattan, the same. Your individual freedom can cause the city to burn down. Likewise, in western Nebraska, freedom promotes the best prosperity. You can burn your own trash because there's no one for miles around. You can play music loudly. You can build huge bonfires, race your truck up and down desolate roads at 100mph. So, take that liberal politician from Manhattan and put him in charge of a tiny county in western Nebraska. Ok, so burning trash is bad. It creates toxic smoke, can start wildfires, and is unsafe. All people in western Nebraska must drive their trash 40 miles to the nearest landfill. That won't fly. LIKEWISE, say the conservative republican leader of a small western Nebraska County goes to NYC and becomes mayor or whatever. He said Murica!! Freedom!!! No need for mass transit, everyone can drive a car. Everyone can burn their own garbage. You can drive as fast as you want. FREEDOM!!!! And yep, that won't fly in NYC.
No, our divide today is the same divide that separated Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson. Difference was those founding fathers were smarter than politics. They knew they were creating a nation and a governemnt, and they knew America would benefit best with Federalists running cities and democratic republicans running rural areas. So they devised a government structure that allowed, and supported, BOTH.
Personally, I wouldn't want republicans running all the cities, or democrats running all the rural areas. If I'm running for office, I'm not running to control anything, I'm not running to "win" anything. I'm running to serve MY area, the best way that I know how. And honestly, if I wanted to govern a city, I'd run as a democrat. If I wanted to govern a rural area, I'd run as a republican. And I'd know, and do what is best in both areas, because I'd do what is best for the people, the citizens, and not care about a party or any kind of political war or tribalism. It's honestly very conceited and ignorant to think your world view is best for everyone. And that's the main problem America has today, IMO. We need to go back to our REPUBLIC roots. Not republican, REPUBLIC roots.
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Re: I'm a conservative.
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Mar 26, 2025, 1:23 PM
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I AM THE EXACT OPPOSITE FROM THE COMMUNISTS THAT JUST ABOUT DESTROYED OUR COUNTRY. FACT IS I KNOW PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR THAT. JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE DEMS. JMO BUT A VAST MAJORITY, BOTH PARTIES, SHOULD BE RUN OUT OF TOWN. THE DEMS THAT ARE RUNNING THAT PARTY NOW ARE NOT DEMS, THEY ARE SOCIALISTS AND COMMUNIST. UNFORTUNATELY SOME STILL DO NOT GET IT.
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Maybe you used to be a conservative
Mar 26, 2025, 1:36 PM
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If you do not recognize the rise and increase in the slow-ish and loosely organized move of the mainstream left to extreme left and socialism/communism, then I don't think you are conservative.
Obama, Biden and the rest of them have told us directly what they are doing - "Fundamental Transformation."
"Fundamental Transformation" does not include any room for conservatives anywhere (urban or rural).
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [106622]
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Two parties fighting a political war, is no way to effectively lead a nation.***
Mar 26, 2025, 1:45 PM
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Dynasty Maker [3221]
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So, what is "conservative"? If you voted for MAGA, you're not conservative....
Mar 26, 2025, 4:40 PM
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There's nothing even remotely conservative about today's Republican Party.
In fact, I think a very strong argument could be made that the Dems are more conservative than Republicans, if not on every issue, at least certainly on many issues.
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