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Commissioner [942]
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Is there anything to this UNC and UVA to the Big 10 talk?
Nov 27, 2012, 6:06 AM
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If there is, we need to be on the phone to Dallas immediately.
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Commissioner [942]
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One other thing, Slive will be a vulture and pick
Nov 27, 2012, 6:11 AM
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off NC State and Virginia Tech. Like I said, get on the phone to Dallas immediately.
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Associate AD [1051]
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UVa board is meeting today....
Nov 27, 2012, 6:21 AM
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Sportstalk radio in Virginia is speculating that it is to consider jumping to the B1G TEN. Littlepaige denies any interest...just like Weaver at VT has always done about the SEC.
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National Champion [7528]
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Re: Is there anything to this UNC and UVA to the Big 10 talk?
Nov 27, 2012, 6:27 AM
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UNC and UVa to BIG 10
NCSU and VT to SEC
GT and FSU to BIG 12
Clemson and sisters of the poor in the ACC.
My nightmare senario, very possible. Barker and the BOT may just earn this result for Clemson.
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Amateur [30]
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Re: Is there anything to this UNC and UVA to the Big 10 talk?
Nov 27, 2012, 6:35 AM
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Nightmare yes. Likely no.
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Orange Phenom [14441]
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So the Big 10 and SEC go to 16 but the Big 12
Nov 27, 2012, 7:04 AM
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only adds GT and FSU to get to 12 rather than going to 14 or 16? Your suggstion is laughable when they could add Clemson, FSU, GT, Miami to get to 14 or Louisville and Cincy/Pitt to make 16.
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All-Pro [665]
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The Big 12 will ultimately be adding more than 2 teams.
Nov 27, 2012, 7:20 AM
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If the ACC begins to implode, Clemson will not be left behind.
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Athletic Dir [1197]
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Re: The Big 12 will ultimately be adding more than 2 teams.
Nov 27, 2012, 7:47 AM
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Don't bet the farm on Clemson not being left behind. Barker was a main engineer of the ND deal. He would be too embarrassed to leave now.
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Orange Immortal [68088]
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There will be opportunities for Clemson to leave....
Nov 27, 2012, 8:46 AM
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just like this past summer. The question then becomes, does the President and CUBOT have enough sence to take advantage of those opportunities unlike this past summer when they squandered a golden opportunity to exit the ACC.
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National Champion [7528]
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Re: So the Big 10 and SEC go to 16 but the Big 12
Nov 27, 2012, 8:46 AM
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It is NOT laughable. The Big12 has stated numerous times they WILL NOT ADD if teams added decrease revenue per team. This is all about the $$$ folks. There will be an analysis done and if Clemson cannot add to the pie equal to what they take out they WILL NOT be added. That is why 6 months ago the talk changed from Clemson & FSU to the Big12 to GT and FSU to the Big12. Georgia and Atlanta are viewed as better TV markets than upstate SC. Sorry if the truth hurts.
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Orange Immortal [68088]
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That is not why Clemson's prospects changed....
Nov 27, 2012, 8:53 AM
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The focus shifted from Clemson to GT because Clemson continuously waffled on the Big 12's offer to join.
For practical purposes, if the Big 12 goes from 10 to 14 or 16 teams, it is likely that both Clemson and GT will have an opportunity to join.
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National Champion [7528]
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Re: That is not why Clemson's prospects changed....
Nov 27, 2012, 9:24 AM
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And if they go to 12?
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Orange Immortal [68088]
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I think that is unlikely....
Nov 27, 2012, 10:01 AM
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especially if the $EC and Big expands to 14 or 16.
Right now, it's looking like the Big may be after GT rather than UNC.
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National Champion [7528]
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Re: I think that is unlikely....
Nov 27, 2012, 10:09 AM
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That would be great. Then we could get those pesky Bees off the schedule.
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CU Guru [1071]
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Ga Tech isn't going to the Big 12, they will go Big 10 or
Nov 27, 2012, 8:19 AM
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stay put. Big 10 wants AAU schools in giant TV / cable TV markets. We have a home in the Big 12 if we want it. I didn't want us in the Big 12 six months ago and neither did a majority of Clemson alumni / boosters. Times have changed. If Ga Tech or UVa make a move to Big 10, we are out. We will try to make a move to the SEC, but it likely won't work ( it has nothing to do with mythical gentlemens agreements keeping us out - the SEC - like the Big 10 and Big 12 - wants new markets.
So, say hello to volleyball games in Ames, IA and Manhattan, KS and to football teams with records that will look a lot like WVU's this year (7-5, 6-6, and even 5-7) because the Big 10 may well send us to the Big 12 ready or not.
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Orange Immortal [68088]
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Yes...there is***
Nov 27, 2012, 7:18 AM
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All-TigerNet [12666]
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Virginia BOT discussion BigTen offer. Ironically two former
Nov 27, 2012, 7:41 AM
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Tar Heels killing the ACC. Delaney of the Big Ten and Swofford.
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Team Captain [487]
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Re: Is there anything to this UNC and UVA to the Big 10 talk?
Nov 27, 2012, 8:32 AM
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Not sure when it will happen, but I do see it happening as all leagues look to maneuver towards 16 teams. Maryland was a shock to all in the league. Nobody saw that coming. But there s a bit of a battle on this aubject going on behind the scenes at UNC. There is the group that wants to stay with Duke and the ACC for historic reasons. This is the group that is basketball centered and doesnt care if the ACC turns into the new Big East. The second group likes the Big Ten because they think it would be a good fit for UNC. Then there is the third group that wants to steal NC States possible slot in the SEC. And UNC could easily do that. All they would have to do is wink at Mike Slive, and they would be in. Lots of politics in this before it is over, but I see VT and State in SEC. UNC and Virginia in Big 10, and FSU and Clemson in Big 12. At that point the ACC willbraid whatever is left of the Big East and try to become a super version of the old Metro conference.
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All-American [551]
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Re: Re: Is there anything to this UNC and UVA to the Big 10 talk?
Nov 27, 2012, 8:50 AM
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Clemson is #2 on big 12 wish list after FSU and followed closely by Miami
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All-American [551]
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Re: Re: The Big 12 will ultimately be adding more than 2 teams.
Nov 27, 2012, 8:54 AM
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ND had proven this season they don't need a conference affiliation in football
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Clemson Conqueror [11456]
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Re: Re: The Big 12 will ultimately be adding more than 2 teams.
Nov 27, 2012, 9:14 AM
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ND had proven this season they don't need a conference affiliation in football
however if the acc falls apart, they may be forced into a conference because of their inability to schedule games.
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All-American [551]
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Re: Re: The Big 12 will ultimately be adding more than 2 teams.
Nov 27, 2012, 9:23 AM
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teams will line up to play the defending BCS Champion
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Head Coach [767]
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Head Coach [767]
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Re: Is there anything to this UNC and UVA to the Big 10 talk?
Nov 27, 2012, 9:37 AM
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Correction - I meant Cory Fravel. Not sure who he is though.
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Associate AD [1004]
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The best thing UNC has is their b-ball rivalry vs Duke!
Nov 27, 2012, 10:17 AM
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I don't see UNC leaving Duke. These games are huge for their fans.
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Valley Protector [1459]
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Why would UNC leave?
Nov 27, 2012, 10:23 AM
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Swofford strokes them on a daily basis. Everything he does in the ACC is for the benefit of the tarholes...
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Orange Immortal [68088]
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It would surprise me....
Nov 27, 2012, 10:43 AM
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if UNC left for a conference they could not manipulate and control.
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Valley Protector [1459]
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^^^ This.***
Nov 27, 2012, 10:48 AM
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Orange Blooded [4444]
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Normally I would agree but......
Nov 27, 2012, 10:54 AM
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maybe Swofford told them there may be no conference for them to control and they better get out now?
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