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Game Day Hero [4324]
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If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 6, 2022, 3:05 PM
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to get him back at Clemson to get our WRs back up to par. I'm surprised no one has been putting more heat on Grisham today after that terrible WR performance last night. No more excuses about injuries and DJ errant throws (he threw a lot of nice balls last night). His guys just aren't getting it done and Grisham has to take responsibility. The only bright spot (Antonio) was a guy that he didn't even offer until late in the recruiting process. Williams had wanted to be a Tiger most of his life because his Momma went there and he grew up in the upstate while in middle school. Randall was coming to Clemson no matter the coach either. He had absolutely nothing to do with two guys that look like they can actually play. Why is the Freshman Williams having to teach the veteran Senior Spector release moves and influence. Isn't that Grisham's job?
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 6, 2022, 3:07 PM
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Spector has missed time w injuries, covid and early on wasn't getting much pt. As far as number of plays he may be one of the lease experienced seniors.
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 8, 2022, 2:17 PM
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Jeff Scott got a contract extension this year. They like Jeff's recruiting at USF and are giving him time to build the program.
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Ring of Honor [22012]
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Agree, Grisham's seat is hot!!!***
Sep 6, 2022, 3:07 PM
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Clemson Conqueror [11364]
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hopefully he's already started the conversation.........
Sep 6, 2022, 3:09 PM
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Scott is by far Dabo's biggest coaching loss and his versatility hasn't been matched by his replacement.
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As much as I admire Jeff Scott - and I really do...
Sep 6, 2022, 3:15 PM
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You're saying Scott is Swinney's biggest coaching loss? Have you already forgotten Brent Venables? That guy's in a class by himself.
That said, I'd love to see Scott come back to Clemson as WR coach and co-coordinator.
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Clemson Conqueror [11364]
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BV is the BEST coach that Dabo has lost, but right now......
Sep 6, 2022, 3:24 PM
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Jeff Scott leaving has had the biggest impact (in a negative way) so far from a WR performance, to playcalling input/co-coordinator, to recruiting.
if our Defense is atrocious in 2-3 years then I'll revise the biggest coaching loss pecking order.
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Rival Killer [2914]
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Re: BV is the BEST coach that Dabo has lost, but right now......
Sep 6, 2022, 4:52 PM
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Err, uh, playcalling sucked ### when he was co-coordinator. Talent consistently bailed dumb and dumber out. However, last night's game with DJ at the helm wasn't called well either for a good portion. A guy struggling to make decisions quickly and get rid of the ####### ball should have more check-down options.
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Re: BV is the BEST coach that Dabo has lost, but right now......
Sep 6, 2022, 5:05 PM
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Play calling sucked? Perhaps you didn't see where it was Jeff Scott (after listening to a player's suggestion and rationale) who insisted on running "Orange Crush" against 'Bama in the 2018 championship game. That right there showed me he had the cahones to be a play-caller.
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Freshman [-74]
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And what is the basis for that comment?
Sep 6, 2022, 4:36 PM
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In Grisham's first year we have the most productive receiving season in school history. Yes, we had some focus issues last year all things considered, but we got better at WR even when having only two scholarship WRs at the end of the year.
We played one game so far. If the drops continue then it's time to start making such ridiculous claims. But let's see how things pan out at QB and WR before jumping off the ledge.
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 6, 2022, 3:13 PM
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Much faster than it took me to read your post.
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 6, 2022, 3:20 PM
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Instantly. He was the better of the Scott / Elliot combo.
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Freshman [-74]
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How do you figure that?***
Sep 6, 2022, 4:37 PM
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Re: How do you figure that?***
Sep 6, 2022, 5:58 PM
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I am not overly impressed with either.foe once, we need to rip a page out of Kirby's playbook and hire a NFL coordinator.
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Legend [7070]
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Re: Dabo Should Call When Jeff's Real Nice House Is Hopefully Paid Off
Sep 6, 2022, 3:14 PM
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Nothing pays like losing as a Football HC
Sep 6, 2022, 3:22 PM
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The buyouts are lucrative and life changing. But Dabo could choose to use Scott as a consultant and recruiter (not WR coach.)
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Game Changer [1841]
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Re: Nothing pays like losing as a Football HC
Sep 6, 2022, 4:06 PM
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The buyouts are lucrative and life changing. But Dabo could choose to use Scott as a consultant and recruiter (not WR coach.)
IF all of the pieces were to fall in place, it would be interesting to see either Scott as an offensive analyst/recruiter with Richardson moving into a Co-OC role or Scott and Streeter as co-OCs. Just a pipe dream.
I learned a long time ago that true players don't usually make awesome coaches. There are tons of exceptions, but think about it.
Dabo, Saban, Jeff Scott, Venables. None of them were awesome players and definitely not all-pros in the NFL.
Then take Grisham and Spiller. Love both of them, but they are probably the most scrutinized coaches on staff. Ironically, they both were great in college and had NFL stints.
I'm sure there's some psychological explanation that is over my head.
Can you imagine Michael Jordan as a head coach? No way. I'm not sold yet on Deion Sanders. He may be an exception, but is he an awesome coach or just knows how to relate to the kids and sell his program.
Just interesting to me.
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Rival Killer [2914]
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 6, 2022, 3:47 PM
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No. Recruiting gets us back to where we were and yes, Jeff was a big part of that.
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Game Changer [1999]
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 6, 2022, 3:51 PM
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Very fast.
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 6, 2022, 4:07 PM
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If J.Scott becomes available, then I hope Dabo and G.Neff invent a job for him until a coaching slot opens up.
An honorary or ceremonial job would be fine ... just bring him back into the fold.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [98377]
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He should let his secretary take a message.
Sep 6, 2022, 4:10 PM
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What type of man would demote a new OC to Co-OC? Remember how we got Venables? Yeah, that.
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One Things For Sure
Sep 6, 2022, 4:11 PM
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You certainly are consistent.
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Ring of Honor [21259]
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Wasn't it Scott who recruited these guys?
Sep 6, 2022, 4:16 PM
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Ngata, Ladson, EJ, Ajou??? The ones who have rarely if ever performed.
The guys Grisham recruited, Antonio, the Collins', Randall, at least soon. Aren't they the ones who caught passes?
Wasn't it Grisham who finally got something out of Cornell Powell? A huge year from Amari?
You guys are the type who blame the guns for mass shootings. It's never the one pulling the trigger, or in this case, catching the ball.
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Orange Blooded [2553]
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 6, 2022, 4:30 PM
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Fire Joey Batson.
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Oculus Spirit [41697]
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That Swinney kid caught every pass that came his way
Sep 6, 2022, 4:38 PM
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one was in really tight coverage
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 6, 2022, 4:44 PM
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If you do a little research instead of plucking a narrative from thin air you would know CJS is on a six year plan and has a lot of support at USF so he is not getting fired any time soon. Based on that this thread is moot
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Game Changer [1652]
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 6, 2022, 5:15 PM
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fast as greased lightning
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Game Changer [1652]
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 6, 2022, 5:16 PM
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faster than Kim Kardashian can get out of her clothes.
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Game Changer [1652]
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 6, 2022, 5:17 PM
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faster than Joe Biden can say something embarrassing
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Game Changer [1652]
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 6, 2022, 5:17 PM
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faster than Joe Biden can say something embarrassing
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Game Changer [1652]
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 6, 2022, 5:18 PM
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faster than Uncle Sam can spend other people's money
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 8, 2022, 2:08 PM
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If USF fires J Scott Dabo should not pick up the phone. I am okay with Freshman Williams teaching Spector release moves and influence. And Cade teaching Dabo whose best QB
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Paw Warrior [4988]
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 8, 2022, 2:13 PM
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Immediately
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Orange Blooded [2419]
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 8, 2022, 2:55 PM
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Yeah if they fire him early, he will be hired as an offensive analyst very quickly but I be he goes for an P5 OC job next. He has to build up a little bit again before he gets another HC shot.
I hope he gets it turned around though.
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 9, 2022, 9:52 AM
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Dabo is a former receiver coach so I think he knows the strengths and weaknesses of the receiver corp and will get it fixed. I feel if Grisham is at fault Dabo knows it and will fix it. You can only drill them hard, teach technique, and hope they carry it on to the game field. If they don't, we have to recruit better. There is only so much knowledge you can teach. In the pros, they just find a new player. In college, we must recruit next year or bring up a red shirt. Let Dabo handle it. He knows if the coach is responsible, or if the system doesn't fit the players. Personally, we have 3 excellent running backs and need to be able to use them.
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Re: If USF fires J Scott how fast should Dabo pick up the phone
Sep 9, 2022, 6:26 PM
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ASAP
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