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Re: Are Ohio St and FSU going to be as bad as I think they will be next season?

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Re: Are Ohio St and FSU going to be as bad as I think they will be next season?

Dec 31, 2023, 11:47 AM

I don't know much about FSU but I know after the Cotton Bowl many fans are extremely over Ryan Day...McCord transferred because he wanted to remain the starter but Day told him there would be competition...This was Hartline's second season as OC but many believe he has yet to call a play because Day is too paranoid but who knows...He definitely needs Hartline for recruiting....Day is given another year to straighten out his mess because OSU is currently in a transition for a new president & next summer getting a new AD..

I don't think it's going to matter because he doesn't place enough importance on the trenches like Tressell & Meyer did & many don't care for him because he simply is not from Ohio as the previous two...This was his first HC job in anything...He is a good man but like many say Soft & puckers up in big games....Frankly I knew just as someone previously mentioned...The program would be on a decline once Meyer's players were gone and Day had to hire coaches of his own..The DL coach Larry Johnson has been a great coach and recruiter but he is ready to retire so probably losing some interest.

The QB coming in is a young man named Air Noland from Georgia...I am guessing the young man is very good but people are spoiled after Fields and Day..That's one thing that hurt McCord...and depending on a true freshman is very risky....I've heard rumors a deal is in place to get the QB from Kansas St. but I guess we'll see...Ohio St will be good but. as has been shown if you don't have a qb then you are in trouble

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Re: Are Ohio St and FSU going to be as bad as I think they will be next season?

I've been predicting a decline for Ohio State since Urban Meyer left. This was Ryan Day's 1st full season without recruits from the Urban Liar regime. There is already a talent gap and development gap between those former coaches and the current staff. Also this was the first season Cryin' Ryan Day did not have Kevin Wilson on staff as the offensive mastermind in the background (Kevin Wilson schemed and planned offensively, but Day took the credit. When Kevin Wilson was fired from Indiana, Meyer called him the next day and offered him a job, Meyer recognized his coaching talent and experience, i.e. Stoops era at Oklahoma.) I do think Hartline was a wise promotion by Day, but I also think he was adding insulation between himself and the offense by publicly declaring another coach had play calling duties, which Day previously took credit for. He knew beforehand that he was going to need a "fall guy" but also someone he had confidence in because he could no longer ride the coat tails of Meyer and Wilson. I've also heard that Ohio States defensive coordinator may be considering retirement, but don't know if that is factual. That would be another major adjustment heading into 2024.

FSU has relied too much on the portal, unless they reload considerably I don't think they will recover from this years personal losses. Too much annual turnover will cause inconsistencies in the program and lead to roller coaster seasons, I see them being more of a 7-9 win team next year.

Are Ohio St and FSU going to be as bad as I think they will be next season?

Re: Are Ohio St and FSU going to be as bad as I think they will be next season?