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TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 12:17 PM
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Orange Blooded [2336]
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Halftime Adjustments??
Sep 21, 2021, 12:20 PM
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Or two hour rain delay adjustments?
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We ain't adjusting, by Gawd. We do what we DO!
Sep 21, 2021, 1:25 PM
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And don't you ferGIT it!
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Orange Blooded [2992]
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They had time to watch the entire game up to delay
Sep 21, 2021, 3:04 PM
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So, when they sat for 2hrs with delay, had time to watch every play, how could they not make adjustments. Why could we not get some 3n-outs so we could have more than 3 possessions?
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All-American [581]
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Apparently you didn't watch the game.
Sep 22, 2021, 1:03 AM
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We had more runs in the 2nd half, a higher percentage of plays were runs, and most importantly the QB ran it once in the 1st half and seven times in the 2nd half. There's really no way a semi-knowledgable fan couldn't have noticed it.
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We'll have to agree to disagree***
Sep 21, 2021, 12:21 PM
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Top TigerNet [28451]
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Lawd ... Dabo don’t believe in statistics
Sep 21, 2021, 12:22 PM
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Bet he rides his motorsickle without a helmet
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Tiger Spirit [9331]
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Is this posted on the wall of the football facility now?
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Sep 21, 2021, 12:23 PM
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What happened to best is the standard?
C’mon man!!!
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All-American [581]
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I don't think he or anyone believes we're hitting our best.
Sep 22, 2021, 1:07 AM
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Just because that's the standard doesn't mean we're currently hitting it. His message was that we're improving, i.e. working to get there.
And "best" means the best they can be. That doesn't necessarily mean best in the country. Sometimes other teams are better.
"Best" means achieving our best. Obviously that's a work in progress.
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Freshman [-99]
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Re: I don't think he or anyone believes we're hitting our best.
Sep 22, 2021, 1:11 AM
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Dabo said 2 weeks ago that this is the best team he’s seen in 3 years! Are you kiddin me? Why can’t he see it’s time to change some things coz he sure doesn’t k ie how to call plays at all?
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All-American [581]
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I wonder how we've
Sep 22, 2021, 1:38 AM
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finished #2, #1, #4, #1, #2, and #4 and had a top 10 offense each of the last six seasons without knowing how to call plays?
We have a team capable of being great. We have one primary issue holding us back right now. That person and his mental state is requiring more development than what we're used to. It will help too if the new OL comes together and performs better.
Do you think the coaches who have finished in the top 4 for six seasons in a row forgot how to coach??
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 12:23 PM
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He is right, they don't stink!
THEY SUCK.
If they only stunk, they might could clean up their act.
But how do you fix suck?
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The question that has plagued the coots for ages***
Sep 21, 2021, 12:32 PM
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National Champion [7194]
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Re: The question that has plagued the coots for ages***
Sep 21, 2021, 1:55 PM
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Are you calling me a coot!
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Game Changer [2093]
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Re: The question that has plagued the coots for ages***
Sep 21, 2021, 3:29 PM
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I can assure you he wasn't, but he should call you something else
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 22, 2021, 1:09 AM
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They SUCK! And if Dabo knew how to coach he would realize he doesn’t have good OL
coaches! Dabo doesn’t know football like nick Saban & can’t realize he needs to make some changes? He’ll go down this year! Coz of his stubbornness which will teach him a lesson.
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 22, 2021, 9:46 AM
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Coots keep saying it but that don’t make it true.
Have fun cycling in.
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Tiger Spirit [9313]
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 12:23 PM
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My only assurance in this situation is I don't make 10 million per year. He does. Paid to fix it.
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Athletic Dir [1123]
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 12:27 PM
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He doesn't seem to care much about fixing it. I've never heard so much excuse making and really out and out lies. Maybe 30 or 40 million makes you lose your drive, who knows.
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 12:53 PM
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I agree; I feel like the urgency this season does not match the level of when Dabo took over in 2008. If this is a new season and each season we start over then I feel like the current response should be different. These are uncharacteristic performances, reactions, and dynamics within the program that are concerning to me. We aren’t playing to our potential and to me this is bigger than technique. No, I’m not Dabo and I don’t get paid to coach - I’m just a fan speaking to what I’m observing peripherally. I credit Dabo and Co. for our best decade in Clemson football history, it has been such a joy to witness/experience, but I am concerned…Maybe 11 weeks from now we will be firing on all cylinders with just the lone loss to UGA but I don’t feel as confident about that scenario right now.
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 22, 2021, 1:17 AM
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Yep excuses excuses! Coz he doesn’t know how to fix it. DJ’s footing us off & he has t coaches that can’t read other teams defense but the other teams have read our offense & Elliot said GT came out with total different defense but can’t you see that and then change your strategy to make it work? No coz he doesn’t know how. And Dabo doesn’t know either.
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 2:01 PM
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He gets paid to recruit young men who will be educated at a great institution and win football games.
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1st Rounder [629]
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Freshman [-94]
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Statistics don’t lie.
Sep 21, 2021, 12:23 PM
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Right now, we suck!
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Stick to your politics QAnon boy.***
Sep 21, 2021, 12:55 PM
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Freshman [-94]
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LMAO!
Sep 21, 2021, 1:24 PM
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I never even heard of QAnon until CNN talked about it.
Don’t you idiots ever get tired of calling people dumb and racist etc. for pointing out how brainwashed you are? I thought people on the left were supposed to be intelligent. Supposed to believe in science. Were supposed to be tolerant.
You’re nothing but a bunch of authoritarian clowns and fascists!
History will not be kind to this period of leftist politics in America.
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Heisman Winner [84198]
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I know you didn't use the caps locks here, but it feels like
Sep 21, 2021, 2:54 PM
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you used the caps lock here.
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National Champion [7974]
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Re: I know you didn't use the caps locks here, but it feels like
Sep 21, 2021, 3:10 PM
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No doubt this was all implied caps and nuanced exclamation points. Was your hair blown back after reading that as well?
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TigerNet Legend [145412]
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Your pulse is 54%…
Sep 21, 2021, 1:10 PM
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So I agree, statistics don’t lie.
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Freshman [-94]
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I couldn’t care less about my pulse
Sep 21, 2021, 1:18 PM
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And the fact that grown men care about such things and how many points they have is actually quite sad.
That being said the only reason my pulse is low is because I call it like I see it. I’m not politically correct. I’m not polite. The people pushing my pulse down are either people that freak out over the slightest bit of criticism towards Clemson or brainwashed liberals. Anyone that cares what those people think needs to get a life.
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TigerNet Legend [145412]
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I love that old excuse...
Sep 21, 2021, 1:34 PM
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"The only reason I ______(Insert Failure Here)_______ is because I call it like I see it."
The reason your pulse is low is because you don't understand how to post on the correct board and your posts are boring.
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Top TigerNet [29870]
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Re: I love that old excuse...
Sep 21, 2021, 1:39 PM
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boring??
that is entirely too kind.
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Re: Your pulse is 54%…
Sep 21, 2021, 1:59 PM
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The only pulse that matters is when we go to the doctor. I have no clue nor could care less what a Tiger Net pulse is.
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TigerNet Legend [145412]
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Your pulse is 66%.***
Sep 21, 2021, 2:23 PM
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Recruit [-100]
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Re: Your pulse is 54%…
Sep 21, 2021, 2:36 PM
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His "pulse"?
LMAO - Dude - you're a ###### bag
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TigerNet Legend [145412]
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Maybe he shouldn't bring up stats if he doesn't want to...
Sep 21, 2021, 2:40 PM
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talk stats.
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Re: Your pulse is 54%…
Sep 21, 2021, 6:14 PM
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Seems like "pulse," "TDs," "TUs" all seem to have something to do with how much others here like or dislike you. You know, like middle school.
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Re: Your pulse is 54%…
Sep 22, 2021, 9:50 AM
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Yup. Worked then to weed out the bad apples. Works now too.
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Athletic Dir [1123]
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 12:24 PM
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Not sure what games he's been viewing tape on but I can assure you we do stink, really bad.
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Reading the headline, all I can think of is Baghdad Bob
Sep 21, 2021, 12:25 PM
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during the very short Persian Gulf War. He would come on tv and say everything is fine and the Iraqi army would hold their own. As he was talking, there were U.S. tanks literally rolling by him in the background.
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Orange Elite [5425]
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 12:30 PM
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114th stinks. Hope it gets better but we really stink on offense.
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All-In [34487]
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Lol,
Sep 21, 2021, 12:33 PM
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Lakebum1® you called it. One day.
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Orange Blooded [2566]
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Ive heard many a coach in his position just say
Sep 21, 2021, 1:22 PM
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"we're not very good right now". That's usually what they say, even the good ones. But he's not even saying this. Surprised.
When things were great, he always was quick to cite the great stats and how we were top 5 in this category or that. Now, on the other end, no acknowledgement.
You can sense they are closing themselves off from the so-called "critics" as they are called.
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Tiger Titan [46596]
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And I'm not sure Dabo, Elliott, Streeter, etc. know how to
Sep 21, 2021, 2:04 PM
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fix it.
We are about to find out.
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Orange Blooded [3247]
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Re: And I'm not sure Dabo, Elliott, Streeter, etc. know how to
Sep 21, 2021, 2:33 PM
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So let me get this straight, JK......we can't criticize Brad Brownell, the annually crowned KING of mediocrity at Clemson....without getting an earful of unwarranted defense from you on his behalf every single time. But it's ok for you to criticize Dabo...the man who has 2 natty rings, wins the ACC every year, who brought back-to-back generational QBs to Clemson, and had an overall #1 pick in the NFL Draft??
That's rich, my friend...on a whole new level.
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Tiger Titan [46596]
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Here's the thing you don't seem to understand.
Sep 21, 2021, 3:32 PM
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Brownell has done more with less his entire career. Under Brownell, Clemson basketball punches above its weight class all the time. We compete toe to toe with teams that we have no business competing against based on program history, talent level, support, etc.
In contrast, under Dabo and Elliott, we have had offenses that are loaded with talent. Five star/generational talent at QB, RB, WR, etc. Most games, these elite players are going against defenses that have little chance of stopping them. Thus, there is no questioning their ability to recruit top talent.
However, for the first time under a Dabo and Elliott-led offense, things look really bad. The team is struggling mightily on offense. The early returns, after three games, are not good. Consider:
-Their excuse against Georgia was that Georgia is a really good defense.
-Their excuse against SC State is that they forced us to run.
-Their excuse against Georgia Tech is that they played a defense we weren't expecting.
The results are shocking for an $8 million head coach (3rd highest in college football) and a $2 million offensive coordinator (highest paid offensive coordinator in college football):
-105th in scoring offense
-93rd in rushing offense
-101st in passing offense
They haven't fixed the problems, despite being 25% of the way through the season. Of course, there is still plenty of time to fix them. But honestly, what evidence do we have that they know how to fix the problem, considering the fact that they have never been in this situation and have always been able to lean on generational talent in the past?
So don't jump down my throat for questioning their ability to do something they have never done before. I sure hope they can - after all, that's a big reason why they are paid the high salaries they are.
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Orange Blooded [3247]
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You COMPLETELY missed the point...
Sep 21, 2021, 3:47 PM
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First of all, Brownell's mediocrity is indefensible, and you will not convince me otherwise. But I digress....
My point is...if we can't criticize Brownell after 10 years of undeniably mediocre results, then you absolutely CANNOT criticize Dabo who has made his home at the top of the mountain.
You are the definition of hypocrisy.
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Game Changer [1784]
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The problem is that Dabo doesn't even admit the problem.
Sep 21, 2021, 4:15 PM
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How can we expect them to fix the offensive coaching problem when they don't even see that the problem exists? Can't they see that 2-star teams like NIU & Kennesaw St scored more against GT in Atlanta than Clemson's 4-star roster scored in Death Valley (even though NIU & KENN had equal or worse turnover ratios against GT)?
Do they not ever watch other teams' offenses and see what top-tier OCs are doing?
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All-American [581]
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#2, #1, #4, #1, #2, #4 in the last 6 seasons.
Sep 22, 2021, 1:31 AM
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That's much higher than recruiting rankings. Another words, Dabo has built all of this while doing more with less than others.
Those finishes are incredible. To suggest he can't coach is sheer ignorance at best.
They may or may not be able to fix the primary mental issue, but even if we have a down year you simply cannot question the coaching resume. Again,
#2, #1, #4, #1, #2, #4.. lol, our coaches don't know what they're doing? You obviously just want company with the basketball mediocrity, but one non-playoff season won't do it, and basketball has zero equity and money in the bank. What's their best finish in 11 years?.. 16th? And I'm not railing on the basketball program - I want them to succeed like we have seen other coaches (with less) do.. but so far the results aren't matching the package and time they've had to work with. He is making a lot of money and has everything he needs. He is NOT doing more with less.
Like everyone sees, your attempts to criticize the football program are extremely short-sighted and contradictory of your repeat of excuses for the basketball program. Its transparent and people are calling you out.
People are on to you. Can you just stop?
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Tiger Titan [46596]
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I never said that Dabo or Tony can’t coach.
Sep 22, 2021, 1:39 AM
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They clearly know how to build a winner.
But we have zero evidence that they know how to fix significant offensive issues at Clemson, because they have never had to do it.
Only in the minds of blind football homers is what I said so insulting and repugnant.
Bringing basketball into this is really immature. I guess it makes you feel better to try to insult our basketball program. Sad!
Finally, you sure do seem to know a lot about me considering the fact that you just joined TigerNet a month ago.
Go ahead, tell us what your previous screen names used to be. I dare you.
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All-American [581]
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There's one primary issue.
Sep 22, 2021, 2:11 AM
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How many times must this be explained to you. You just (finally) agreed the only issue we've seen in 7 years is a QB requiring more development than we've seen, and a new oline requiring more time to gel and reach their best.
Now you're switching back to coaching.. after two rough games, both of which have been explained to you. One game there were no adjustments to be had and the other we did adjust and won the game because of it.
In the second half we had three possessions (excluding the one play fumble after doing what we needed to win). Three long drives. One pass on 3rd and 4 was on the money and would have given us another first down. Another drive was 12 plays, and we fumbled after making another first down. On the only other drive we scored the game-winning TD.
In the 2nd half we had more runs, a greater percentage of running plays, and a QB who went from one carry in the 1st half to seven carries in the 2nd half.
That was the adjustment. The game-winning adjustment. If we would have tried to force the passing game, we would have given GT many more chances to chip away and it was more likely we would have lost the game.
Coaching isn't the issue. We have an issue that is working to be repaired..
How many times must football and these same things be explained to you? You already (finally) agreed on the issue, so stop the ridiculous and transparent flip-flopping.
That's not knowledgeable fans being blind, insulting, or repugnant. Yet again your transparent passive aggressiveness is what's truly insulting and repugnant.
It's not immature to point out your blatant and obvious basketball hypocrisy. There are no two ways about it. I didn't "insult" the basketball program.. that's an "immature" assertion. Perhaps you could argue the facts instead of trying to manufacture nonsense?
You can read the board without having a username. No offense, but you've made quite an embarrassing name for yourself with your empty excuses and often comical attempts to defend the indefensible.
Look, you (finally) understand the primary reason we're struggling, so stop with the disproven attempts to blame the coaching. That way the basketball hypocrisy doesn't need to be pointed out. Okay?
The coaches are doing all they can to fix it. Personally I have faith that it will be ultimately fixed, due in part because the player's potential has been shown and recorded in Notre Dame record books. But it must also be pointed out that sometimes even 5-star players and QBs are able to meet their potential. It happens every year in every program, and its not a coaching issue.
This subject has been thoroughly covered. Succinctly defined and no further discussion is required. So stick with the conclusion you (finally) get it, and stop forcing the debunked and contrived rhetoric.
Can you do it? I think you can.
Go Tigers.
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Re: And I'm not sure Dabo, Elliott, Streeter, etc. know how to
Sep 21, 2021, 3:57 PM
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There’s more demonstrated understanding on this staff as to how to fix things than the combined brainpower of this thread.
And here you are amongst the mob once again. Right where you belong.
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Game Changer [1784]
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I recall similar posts defending Bowden's & Spence 's genius***
Sep 21, 2021, 4:18 PM
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 12:34 PM
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We are biding our time, lulling people to sleep, sandbagging our future opponents, confunding our own base, and literally giving the finger to all who thought they knew who we were! We have them right where we want them!
Or
We have meet the enemy and he is us!
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All-TigerNet [12666]
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So he wants us to believe that
Sep 21, 2021, 12:35 PM
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If tech had come out in the defense we were expecting, them we would have passed merrily up and down the field all day long. The flying Tigers.
Also we are 101st in passing and 93rd in rushing because of turnovers?
I'd rather Dabo just said look, this school has three natties and I have two so go suck it. That would have been better than the above lack of touch with reality.
At this point I'm just hoping we can hang on to recruits.
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Re: So he wants us to believe that
Sep 21, 2021, 1:24 PM
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Offensive Turnovers directly effect offensive production… which in doing so effect offensive rankings.
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We haven't had that many turnovers and
Sep 21, 2021, 6:08 PM
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often offenses with turnovers have high yardage. They go up and down the field racking up yards before they turn it over.
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 12:38 PM
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Well coach, in a result driven world the data says otherwise. In God we trust all others bring data!! Getting tired of this years coach speak. Do something on offense!!!
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 1:56 PM
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Data does not win games and we are 2-1. Enough said.
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National Champion [7472]
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 12:48 PM
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Okay, Dabo, just like Bockhurst, let’s see y’all put your words into action Saturday. Back it up!
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 12:55 PM
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In God we trust, all others use data
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 12:59 PM
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In God we trust, all others use data
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 1:02 PM
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No Dabo, you cannot assure me that the 114th ranked offense team doesn't stink. You can assure there will be an improvement. You can assure me this team is going to pull it together and finish strong. You can assure me on many, many things and I will take your word for it Coach.
But you, most assuredly, cannot assure me that the offense doesn't stink at this point in the season.
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All-TigerNet [12666]
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Oh gosh! I hope Dabo hasn't lost his sense of smell.***
Sep 21, 2021, 1:09 PM
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Orange Elite [5569]
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HE'S GONE AND CAUGHT THE COVID!***
Sep 21, 2021, 2:44 PM
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Tiger Spirit [9960]
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 1:12 PM
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Here a good question: how many coot trolls can post in one thread? ChemChem Row86 and a bunch more...
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They are a work in progress and hopefully get things
Sep 21, 2021, 1:20 PM
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turned around but as of now they don’t pass the sniff test.
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Orange Beast [6492]
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Re: They are a work in progress and hopefully get things
Sep 21, 2021, 6:39 PM
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Hope is not a plan for improvement
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All-TigerNet [10825]
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Comon man. Play calling has been stinking for a couple years
Sep 21, 2021, 1:23 PM
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Now
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Athletic Dir [1158]
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 1:40 PM
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We're one more underwhelming game away from a total media & social media blackout by Dabo
Which is fine with me, TE spends more time preparing his media statements then he does jazzing up the game plan.
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Tiger Spirit [9768]
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 1:54 PM
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Once again Tiger Net posters prove they have never played football.
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Reminds me of my best pick up line.
Sep 21, 2021, 1:41 PM
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"I can assure you, I don't have herpes."
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If I had a nickel for every time I fell for that one....
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 1:51 PM
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How blessed (spoiled) we must be if the thought of going 12-2 drives people to speak of grabbing pitchforks and torches.
I want to win them all, but it is inevitable that there will be a season where we drop 2 or 3. Even mighty Alabama missed the CFP.
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 1:52 PM
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We will not see a defense like Georgia's the rest of the season but we will see schemes like Tech used and hopefully will be ready. Time for the O line, Pace and Shipley to step up.
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Tiger Titan [46596]
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So we don't stink because we played good defenses and
Sep 21, 2021, 1:57 PM
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or didn't prepare well.
That's reassuring.
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Stop flip-flopping. Geez.
Sep 22, 2021, 2:20 AM
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Sooo transparent.
And how can you prepare for something you had no idea was coming. Even still the fact remains, they adjusted to it and won the game.
And if we want to talk adjustments, let's talk about the dozens of close losses in basketball where we didn't adjust and typically screwed up at the end of the game. You don't want to go down this road.
Again, you (finally) admitted to understanding the core issue, and it's not coaching. So again, stop the ridiculous flip-flops.
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Campus Hero [13855]
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In two games against P5 opponents we are averaging
Sep 21, 2021, 2:01 PM
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3.7 yards per play. That's pretty stinky!
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Re: In two games against P5 opponents we are averaging
Sep 21, 2021, 7:31 PM
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3.7 yards on every play and you never punt…..
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Campus Hero [13855]
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Very true
Sep 22, 2021, 7:30 PM
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Doesn't seem to be working out that way for us thus far though.
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Game Day Hero [4318]
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 2:02 PM
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Hmm.. 100th+ in offense, and despite what everyone has seen - we don’t stink offensively? What team has he been watching? To say “despite what everyone thinks, we don’t stink” says it all. Why would everyone be saying this? What part of our offense doesn’t stink; can’t run, can’t pass, can’t block and can’t even take a snap from center. Doesn’t seem like everything is on track to me?
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CU Guru [1286]
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Are we being gas lit?
Sep 21, 2021, 2:12 PM
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We’re being gas lit
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Campus Hero [13229]
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when you have to tell people that you don't stink...***
Sep 21, 2021, 2:16 PM
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It's mostly those who suck from the..
Sep 21, 2021, 2:20 PM
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quaking teats of STS and dumped on Dabo calling him a cheerleader when he was new here along with the bandwagoners who didn't know where Clemson was until we started stomping the blue bloods.
I pay them no mind but I'd wish those who agree with me might help me remember them at the end of the season when we make the playoff and they have to repent.
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LOL okay.
Sep 21, 2021, 3:35 PM
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All-American [581]
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How many tournaments in 11 years with his players?
Sep 22, 2021, 2:22 AM
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You said, "lol". Let's be real.
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 2:47 PM
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Sorry coach but you kind of do. Arrogance will be the downfall of this program, your offensive skill position coaches are too young and inexperienced but they are nice guys...I guess. Clemson need good, mature ,experienced coaches all around on the offensive side!
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Game Changer [1653]
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 4:48 PM
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Grisham- recievers are getting zero separation, Caldwell- lineman making tons of mistakes, Elliot- takes over tight-ends and they are no longer a factor, Elliot- not much pre-snap motion and very vanilla play calls, Streeter-qb looks completely shaken, Boyd- DJ looks a lot like he did, Spiller- Dixon was never an issue until you showed up?? Maybe this offensive staff needs to "grow up"?
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I might start using people's opinion of Tajh Boyd
Sep 21, 2021, 6:39 PM
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 2:51 PM
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Sorry coach but you kind of do. Arrogance will be the downfall of this program, your offensive skill position coaches are too young and inexperienced and O Line coach can't get it done but they are nice guys...I guess that's all that matters.Clemson need good, mature, & experienced coaches all around on the offensive side!
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Starter [251]
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 3:02 PM
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“Stink” is a relative term. You can less than you did yesterday, you can stink more than you did last week, you can stink less than other teams…..and so on. Look, I get that GT played us differently than we prepared for, but we did have a two hour halftime ????? I know our guys are committed, dedicated and talented. A loss to Georgia is not a shocker because those guys recruit as good as we do, even a little better. However, when a consistent top ten recruiting team literally survives to beat a team that probably averages about 30th in recruiting, we should comfortably win that game….if the coaching is there. Elliott has to get better, sorry.
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 3:09 PM
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So Dabo does ..”the offense doesn’t smell good” make
you feel better. We are BOTTOM of a mediocre ACC
conference in total offense..including SCState...
Yes Dabo...As of right now our offense DOES stink.
Own it and do something about it.
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Starter [251]
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Sep 21, 2021, 3:11 PM
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Teams that stink less than us will win more games….teams that stink more than us will when less games. A 9-3 team doesn’t stink, a 8-4 team doesn’t stink. Y’all get my point, I’m sure.
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 3:59 PM
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It seems to me like Dabo and the coaches are just ok with being average. Saying whatever he said about Georgia and no one getting explosive plays on them, why can’t Clemson. Why not be the team to dominate them. All this “we are what we are” and we don’t stink talk is just coachspeak this offense is awful.
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 7:34 PM
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Dabo ok with being average?!?!? That has to be the most ridiculous post EVER.
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Game Changer [2093]
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Kennesaw St had 3 turnovers & NIU 1. Both scored more @ GT
Sep 21, 2021, 4:00 PM
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Dabo can't blame it on turnovers. Clemson had 1 turnover and GT had 1, so it was even. Same for the NIU @ GT game (1-to-1). Kennesaw state lost the turnover battle 3-to-1. But both NIU and Kennesaw St (with their 2-star rosters) scored more on GT in Atlanta than Clemson scored in Death Valley with its 4-star roster.
The offensive coaching stinks. Poor development. Poor game-planning. Poor play-calling. Poor adjustments. Basic, easy-to-defend vanilla offense. Yet the coaches seem to have no self-awareness of their poor offensive coaching. Instead they blame the players, just like Tommy Bowden and his constant excuses that, "We put them in a position to win but the players just didn't execute Rob Spence's brilliant offense".
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Game Changer [1784]
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What BS. GT ran lots of 8-man-boxes where Elliott rushed.
Sep 21, 2021, 4:33 PM
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The excuse that GT was dropping 8 into coverage is lame. Whether the D is running 8-man boxes or dropping 8 into coverage, you have to make them pay for their choice. That's what great offensive minds do. Mediocre offensive minds blame the players and the dirty GT DC for running an unexpected defense. Clemson has a MASSIVE talent advantage but the OC & HC can't figure out how to score more points than NIU or Kennesaw State did in Atlanta with their MASSIVE talent disadvantage. How lame.
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 6:34 PM
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Offense smells like a pole cat cooking on the desert floor for a week in July in Death Valley, California!!!!
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 21, 2021, 8:01 PM
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Offense smells like the old Ladies in Lace in Greenville
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Sep 21, 2021, 7:52 PM
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Guess I’m like swinney. I try to tell my wife every morning my crap doesn’t really stink.
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Sep 21, 2021, 7:52 PM
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Guess I’m like swinney. I try to tell my wife every morning my crap doesn’t really stink.
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 22, 2021, 1:05 AM
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Dabo take your comments somewhere else coz you are oblivious to your offensive problems! Case closed!
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He's saying the team he knows and has watched since
Sep 22, 2021, 2:28 AM
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last spring and in practice everyday doesn't stink. He knows their potential, and that's what he's talking about.
He readily admits our in-game faults and says we are working to improve them. He's well aware of our struggles, but he's not going to say our team "stinks". That's never been his way of coaching, especially in public.
Weird how people are missing this.
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Re: He's saying the team he knows and has watched since
Sep 22, 2021, 10:56 PM
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They didn't bother reading the article, more concerned with badmouthing our players.
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Sep 22, 2021, 9:43 AM
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Dabo must have the Wuhan virus. He has lost his sense of smell.
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Sep 22, 2021, 10:02 AM
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Excuses just keep rolling in...call it what it is, we have stunk the last 3 games. Let this sink in, South Carolina scored more points on Georgia than we did and it was at Georgia. That is demoralizing to say the least.
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Sep 22, 2021, 10:41 AM
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Dabo is delusional. The offense does stink. It’s not the talent - it’s the coaching. No DW4, ETN or TL to cover the offensive coaching issues anymore.
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Sep 22, 2021, 12:07 PM
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I think they need to bring DJ back down to earth and reduce the size of his head and ego. Put him on the bench if he doesn't produce and let the back-ups have a chance and maybe that will bring him to the realization he needs to focus on his game and not on his photo shoots and commercials. Additionally, I can't believe with a two hour delay offensive staff could not make adjustments to what Tech was showing in the 1st half and as far as not getting the signals right, what in the world have they been working on in the past 7 months. Can they fix it, I hope so, and I do think Robby Caldwell needs to retire as these Blue Chip Offensive line is not showing me much??
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Sep 22, 2021, 4:50 PM
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The O stinks. The O coaching stinks. They must be standing downwind of Dabo if he can’t smell it. 3 points vs Ga. 14 vs. GT. 8 points for the other side and 28 wiped off the board over first three games by failures in red zone.
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Game Day Hero [4572]
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Re: TNET: Swinney has message for critics of offense: "I can assure you, we don't stink"
Sep 23, 2021, 8:06 AM
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We may not stink but we smell really bad right now, and I truly believe it is mostly on the coaches! No reason in the world a team this talented looks so bland and uninspired on offense!
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Dynasty Maker [3285]
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Oh come on people!
Sep 24, 2021, 10:18 PM
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What would you have him say? You want him to trash players and coaches? Seriously just look at the situation-the head coach is being questioned about his team's lackluster performance. If he went over every detail of what was wrong, who was really screwing up, and what his thoughts were regarding strategy and how he has concerns about players and coaches-what good does that do? It would start a freaking feeding frenzy for a bunch of sharks and then the critics would really pile on with "See-we were right!" You think that would help the team, the program, recruiting? You want to keep a top tier program? or is expressing indignation at your perception of the state of affairs more important. Is acting like the fans at USuC bring such elation at the thought of snotty comments -which BTW has done wonders for their program-buying used up coaches, can't get a coach that even wants to go there? USuC is where coaches go to leave for some place better. That is not Clemson -unless you make it that way. Let's set the bar higher. You are all smart dedicated people-just think of why you want to say something and what effect your words will have before you put them out there-plez
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Paw Master [17276]
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prove it so far 17 points total against two power five teams***
Sep 24, 2021, 11:01 PM
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Athletic Dir [1142]
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Sep 26, 2021, 8:10 PM
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I love Dabo but he's in denial. Miss State put up offense against NCSU. One of the SEC's worst teams. Let's just admit the elephant in the room, Jeff Scott is gone and this is offense, especially Scott's passing game, went with him. Please, please prove me wrong!!
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