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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
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Nov 9, 2024, 7:23 PM
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No. 3 Georgia's.
And that Clemson's ACC record is as good as No. 4 Miami's.
Some (many) of you have started agreeing with the pundits at ESPN and the AP that Clemson is not as good as these teams. It is my privilege to help you fight through your fear of being wrong.
Go Tigers. On to Pitt.
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Top TigerNet [32937]
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I go by what I see on the field
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Nov 9, 2024, 7:25 PM
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this Clemson team isn't a playoff caliber team.
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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Then neither are Miami and Georgia.
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Top TigerNet [29894]
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Eh, UGA has better wins than us (including us)
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Nov 9, 2024, 7:33 PM
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Miami has been flirting with losing all year, so not sold on that one just yet.
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All-In [10420]
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Re: Eh, UGA has better wins than us (including us)
Nov 9, 2024, 8:08 PM
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I agree that Miami’s excellent record obscures their ‘OK but hardly great’ team quality.
Wake won’t beat them. I’d like to see Syracuse beat them up there in the upstate, but am sure not going to bet on it.
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Oculus Spirit [39227]
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Playmaker [394]
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I agree with the theme of your post, but
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Nov 9, 2024, 7:26 PM
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Georgia stomped us. Unfortunately that counts.
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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It counts once, last I checked.
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Nov 9, 2024, 7:34 PM
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Some of you seem to think it counts several times.
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Tiger Titan [47586]
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They beat us by three scores.
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Nov 9, 2024, 7:57 PM
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Is this really the hill that you’re prepared to die on?
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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The loss only counts once.
Nov 10, 2024, 9:10 AM
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I feel like I'm repeating myself.
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Dynasty Maker [3331]
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Re: The loss only counts once.
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Nov 11, 2024, 9:31 PM
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The way you lose matters. Not only did we get blown out by UGA. The Ville whipped us too. Those 2 losses are not good. And based on what I have seen, I don’t think we are one of the 12 best right now. Have a few games to improve though and hopefully this change on D with Sammy is the answer there.
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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Stopped reading at "the way you lose matters."
Nov 13, 2024, 12:31 PM
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Orange Immortal [64729]
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however, the CFP committee says they follow the protocol
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Nov 12, 2024, 3:54 PM
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that doesn't incentivize margin of victory. But they are lying liars that lie. Also, they are full of ####.
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Oculus Spirit [39227]
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
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Nov 9, 2024, 7:26 PM
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Don't be delusional. This team is not playoff worthy. What do you think our record would be with Georgia's schedule? I'll wait.
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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I don't know.
Nov 9, 2024, 7:28 PM
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I only know that my poast included facts.
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Clemson Conqueror [11115]
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Re: I don't know.
Nov 13, 2024, 12:32 PM
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You can present facts and skew them worth bias and bs which is exactly what you did. By your logic Navy should be top 10. I have a really nice car that’s only been in two accidents. Both were blowouts (fire and flood) but I swear it’s a top 10 car. It comes with oceanfront property in Az.
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Ring of Honor [23485]
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Bro come on. Be reasonable. Look at the schedules.
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Nov 9, 2024, 7:28 PM
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UGA murdered us. They play solid teams on the regular. Miami has a pretty weak schedule too, but they beat a team on the road that killed us at home. I don't see a justification for equating us.
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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Before they got murdered by Ole Miss.
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Nov 9, 2024, 7:32 PM
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Which lost to Kentucky which Clemson beat in the Gator Bowl.
Miami lost to Georgia Tech. Which beat Virginia Tech which Clemson beat tonight.
I'm not following you.
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All-Pro [724]
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Re: Before they got murdered by Ole Miss.
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Nov 9, 2024, 7:38 PM
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We beat kentucky LAST year. And here's a fact for you, transitive property does not work in cfb. You are living in la-la land.
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Rival Killer [2745]
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OP is most definitely living in la-la land
Nov 10, 2024, 10:12 AM
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Delusional. Remind me to skip over all future posts by OP
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Ring of Honor [23485]
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Re: Before they got murdered by Ole Miss.
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Really transitive property from a win last year, lmfao. What a troll
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CU Guru [1521]
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Re: Before they got murdered by Ole Miss.
Nov 13, 2024, 4:50 PM
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You are going back to last season? Gator Bowl? That not the same team. you really can only go on this season. Try again.
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Top TigerNet [32632]
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i go by what i see on the football field. in my expert internet opinion i agree
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Nov 9, 2024, 7:31 PM
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with your analysis
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Clemson Sports Icon [55609]
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
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Just stop. We're not 19, 23rd. And no, it's not fear, it's reality. We're not as good as either of those teams. We've beaten trash teams.
Va tech fans (some) were upset drones got the start. Obviously not healthy. But the other qb was doing good. And quit acting like Pitt is some big bad team. We're good, a bottom sec team. We're ranked in the 20s which is spot on. No where near top 12.
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Top TigerNet [32632]
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Clemson can beat any team in the nation
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Nov 9, 2024, 7:36 PM
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or lose to any team in the nation.
JUST LIKE ANY OTHER TEAM.
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Associate AD [1084]
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Re: Clemson can beat any team in the nation
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Wait….wut??
Are you under the influence of crack?
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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I've been asking same about Indiana, and BYU and Penn State.
Nov 12, 2024, 7:10 AM
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Hint: I had to go back a while.
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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I've been asking same about Indiana, and BYU and Penn State.
Nov 12, 2024, 7:18 AM
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And you're right, it did take a while.
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Tiger Titan [47586]
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The difference is
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Nov 12, 2024, 4:13 PM
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Indiana is undefeated at 10-0, BYU is 9-0, and Penn State is 8-1 with their only loss to #2 Ohio State by one score.
What do they have to do with us, sitting at 7-2 with a blowout loss to Georgia and a double digit loss to Louisville?
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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Well, those teams are in the top 10.
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Nov 12, 2024, 4:28 PM
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Which I would think would give rise to questions about their fitness to be there, given the general inferiority of their opponents. Ohio State is a legit opponent. Purdue, Wisconsin, Michigan, Washington, Minnesota, Illinois, Baylor, Texas Tech, Okie State, TCU ... not so much.
But, if you'd rather hammer the home team as being an inferior product wrapped within an inferior conference as a way of advancing the narrative that Dabo Swinney is overpaid and underperforming, that's your prerogative.
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NUTTS !!!***
Nov 9, 2024, 7:42 PM
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TigerNet Legend [146430]
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Associate AD [1084]
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Re: Technically
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Nov 9, 2024, 8:02 PM
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There he is! Pony league coach of the year little lap dog Donnie Munson!
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Rival Killer [2916]
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The AP poll is meaningless
Nov 11, 2024, 9:57 PM
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Only the playoff rankings matter
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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A healthy number of coaches would giggle at this.
Nov 12, 2024, 7:16 AM
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AP rankings = $$$ in a lot of contracts.
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Rival Killer [2916]
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Coaches $$$ don't get teams into the playoffs.
Nov 12, 2024, 5:03 PM
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Playoff rankings do.
Playoff results get coaches big bonuses.
Any coach that gets AP rankings bonuses written in his contract is a shyster, or his AD is an idiot.
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
Nov 9, 2024, 7:41 PM
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Seinfeld? Is that you?
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Playmaker [392]
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
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We got crushed by uga and beat soundly by Louisville and our wins have been against bad teams.if your happy w that good for you.
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
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Well meaning folks like the OP are enablers of mediocrity. We should demand playoffs and titles because thats what they’ve done. I’m glad you’re happy we have the same terrible record as Georgia. Georgia would be 9-0 with a huge point differential with our schedule.
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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I hope for those things.
Nov 10, 2024, 9:14 AM
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(As a fan, I don't think I'm in a position to demand anything.)
However, I think the difference between you and I is that I believe they can be achieved.
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Standout [206]
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
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Nov 9, 2024, 8:07 PM
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Please. Just . Stop.
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Hall of Famer [9035]
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GA beat us 34-3.***
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Nov 10, 2024, 9:11 AM
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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You're the third person to point out the margin of defeat.
Nov 10, 2024, 9:15 AM
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Thank you.
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Orange Blooded [2189]
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I don't think it's the margin of defeat they're trying to point out to you...
Nov 13, 2024, 4:49 PM
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...as much as just the "defeat" part.
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Walk-On [76]
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If i didn't watch the games, I'd agree with you***
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Paw Master [17876]
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no its not all their loses are against good teams
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Nov 10, 2024, 9:21 AM
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we got destroyed by louisville at home after a bye..georgia has also beaten good teams.. see texas. our best win is virginia
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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So you're here from the "It Just Means More" SEC contingent.
Nov 10, 2024, 1:55 PM
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Was wondering when y'all'd show up.
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Rival Killer [2916]
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No he's from the rational and analytical contingent.
Nov 12, 2024, 5:04 PM
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...not sunshine pumping one.
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Campus Hero [14069]
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Oculus Spirit [39879]
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
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Nov 10, 2024, 10:15 AM
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Need a dominant performance against Pitt. Get healthy and win out in convincing fashion. If this 3 lb set continues and we can stop the run then the coot game want be what some on here have alluded to.
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Oculus Spirit [39879]
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
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Nov 10, 2024, 10:17 AM
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Miami does not have the defense to be considered playoff worthy. Refs have aided in a couple of wins. Just over hyped. ACC needs a good Miami and FSU team but the fact is they are not. VT could have or should have beat them at Miami.
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Legend [7022]
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
Nov 10, 2024, 10:59 AM
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We are as good as Miami. Hard to say we as good as UGA considering they thumped us pretty good.
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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I like our chances against UGA after what I saw last night in Oxford.
Nov 10, 2024, 1:56 PM
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Asst Coach [880]
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
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Dude is trolling yall.
Don’t buy into that. He can front all he wants or point out his so called “facts”.
The facts may be correct but there is another fact he’s forgetting or not acknowledging.. all schedules aren’t created equal. All wins are not equal. All losses are not equal.
If we had Georgia’s schedule we have at least 4 losses. Argue it all you want but deep down he knows the truth.
He’s one of those that think it makes him a better fan to sunshine pump. Let him think it bc it really doesn’t matter.
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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Fact: Clemson has the same overall record as Georgia.
Nov 12, 2024, 7:22 AM
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And now has a better conference record than Georgia.
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Scout Team [87]
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Re: Fact: Clemson has the same overall record as Georgia.
Nov 13, 2024, 10:56 AM
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Fact:
Army is undefeated and has a better conference record than every team in the CFB top 10, other than Indiana. Army should be ranked at least number 1 or 2 in the country, right?
See how easy it is to take a "fact" out of context?
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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Finally.
Nov 13, 2024, 12:55 PM
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Someone who is not afraid of being wrong.
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Game Changer [1849]
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
Nov 10, 2024, 2:22 PM
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How does our strength of schedule compare with UGA?
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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Probably not favorably.
Nov 12, 2024, 7:22 AM
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Paw Master [17108]
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If only there was a better metric than the scoreboard when we played them H2H***
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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If only more Clemson fans agreed with you.
Nov 13, 2024, 1:00 PM
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Given the final score has favored Clemson (7) in as many games as it has Georgia (7) by now.
Did you not understand the OP?
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Legend [6610]
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
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Nov 11, 2024, 9:58 PM
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If we win out and win the ACC championship and are ranked where we are now then I might agree with you but ten days after the Louisville debacle? Please.
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Solid Orange [1348]
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
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Not quite equivalent.
Georgia's #11, but they have blowout wins over us and Texas. Their opponents have an overall record of 49-36 and they've played 4 ranked teams so far. 4 of their 7 wins came against winning teams. Miami is 9-1, not 7-2. Their opponents have an overall record of 39-46, so only slightly better than us. They also have no ranked wins, but they have beaten 3 teams with winning records. Our opponents have an overall record of 37-49. We've played one ranked team, and we lost by 31 points to them. Only 1 of our wins came against a team with a winning record: 5-4 UVA.
So Georgia has the same record as us, but has played significantly better teams and has a head to head blowout win over us. Miami has a slightly better strength of schedule, but has a better record than us, with a win over a team that blew us out. It doesn't take rocket science to figure out how these are different.
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Campus Hero [14069]
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Yeah..
Nov 13, 2024, 11:45 AM
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If our schedule included Georgia, Bama, Texas, Ole Miss, and Tennessee our final record would probably be pretty rough. I'm not too confident we would beat any of those teams this year.
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
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"If"
Nov 13, 2024, 1:02 PM
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Top TigerNet [31776]
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Soooo, numbers
Nov 12, 2024, 6:57 AM
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do lie
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
Nov 12, 2024, 7:20 AM
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Lol not all schedules are created equally. Clemson would have 2x as many loses as Georgia with that schedule. We can’t beat a ranked team for crying out loud.
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Valley Protector [1418]
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Our schedule is mfen SOFT¹****
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Orange Blooded [2195]
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
Nov 12, 2024, 5:36 PM
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If I was going to compare our team to someone in the SEC I think Missou might be that team. Or Kentucky.
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Legend [6807]
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
Nov 12, 2024, 7:04 PM
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Clemson beat who? Lost at home to a average team and got smoked by GA.
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Campus Hero [14069]
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There's some pretty good evidence that Georgia is better than Clemson
Nov 13, 2024, 11:40 AM
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I trust you can find it as it's definitely readily available all over the internet... and burned into my brain.
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Commissioner [1242]
TigerPulse: 86%
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
Nov 13, 2024, 11:47 AM
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Who have we beaten?
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Legend [6818]
TigerPulse: 100%
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
Nov 13, 2024, 11:49 AM
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No. 3 Georgia's.
Some (many) of you have started agreeing with the pundits at ESPN and the AP that Clemson is not as good as these teams
The head-to-head with UGA means nothing?
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
TigerPulse: 100%
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It means 1 L.
Nov 13, 2024, 1:03 PM
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No more, no less. Georgia has 2 Ls now. Same as Clemson.
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Clemson Conqueror [11115]
TigerPulse: 100%
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Re: I'd like to point out that No. 19 Clemson's overall record is as good as
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Nov 13, 2024, 12:24 PM
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Yes. True. BUT, they have wins against ranked teams with winning records. We do not. We have a loss to a (then) unranked team and a blowout to a team with a pulse. Very different.
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Dynasty Maker [3184]
TigerPulse: 100%
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7-2/6-1.
Nov 13, 2024, 12:41 PM
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No BUTs.
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