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Guys, what happens if were not good?
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Guys, what happens if were not good?

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Aug 7, 2024, 7:48 AM
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I expect this years team to be a lot better than last years and make the playoff - probably as a lower seed.

I expect them to be better offensively and for us to kick the slump we’ve had for the last several years.

But what happens if we don’t?

What happens if we are the same turnover prone team as last year?

What happens if we’re WORSE than last year?!?

We’ve brought in Eason, Garrett Riley, and Matt Luke.

We’ve got some good recruits and look to be deeper in spots we’ve been weak in in the past.

But let’s say we go 7-5.

What then?

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Aug 7, 2024, 7:53 AM
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We will lose a lot of games

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Aug 7, 2024, 7:57 AM
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I’m guessing it would go like this: First Tnet spends the next 8-9 months arguing with itself over what the real problem is and the root cause of our issue(s). Then in late summer 2025 we read countless articles about how this year will be different, the light has come on, we’ve turned the corner, the DNA is different now, and buckle up because this will be the best group ever. Just a hunch… 😜

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Aug 7, 2024, 10:56 AM
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Geez JP, you’re spot on .. kind of a rinse and repeat of the previous 3 years …

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what happens if

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Aug 7, 2024, 7:59 AM
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What happens if Venusians land on the lake and take all the fish?



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the tug abides


Re: what happens if

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Aug 7, 2024, 8:04 AM
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That’s fantastic, Tug! The “what if?” crowd kills me. Notice how most of the what ifs are generally negative? Not for me. My what ifs are positive. What if the Tigers win it all? That’s what I’m talking about. That could happen too.

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Thats not going to happen this year.***

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Aug 7, 2024, 9:26 AM
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Tell 'em shill I

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Aug 7, 2024, 10:16 AM
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LOL

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Re: Thats not going to happen this year.***

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Aug 7, 2024, 10:55 AM [ in reply to Thats not going to happen this year.*** ]
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When Is it going to happen in basketball?

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Re: Thats not going to happen this year.***

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Aug 7, 2024, 11:14 AM
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or even the ACC...

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Re: Thats not going to happen this year.***


Aug 7, 2024, 7:36 PM [ in reply to Thats not going to happen this year.*** ]
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It is possible. And I will be hoping for it to happen right up until it is no longer possible.

Do you remember the 2016 NC State game? Score was tied 17-17, 2 seconds left on the clock and State was lining up for a 33 yard chip shot FG to win. I remember closing my eyes and saying to myself, “if there really is something in these hills, now would be a great time to see it”. And I believed it was possible. The NC State kicker missed and we won the game in overtime. Bet you didn’t think that was going to happen either did you?

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Re: what happens if

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Aug 7, 2024, 11:07 AM [ in reply to Re: what happens if ]
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Look, I'm a lifelong tiger and class of '17.

Back in the Bowden days we had lots of optimism and "this is our year" mentality.

It. Never. Came. To. Fruition.

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I'm bullish on the Tigers this year, but my quandary was serious.

Like what if we make all these changes and succcc?

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My sense of this preseason is a lot like...


Aug 7, 2024, 11:27 AM
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the way it was for most of Tommy B's seasons here. Guarded optimism with some bearish and bullish folks on the fringes. Not a lot of true, rock-solid confidence... just positive, hopeful talk backed up by little more than wishful thinking.

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Re: Guys, what happens if were not good?

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Aug 7, 2024, 8:03 AM
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7-5 isn’t out of realm of possibility. Not very likely but possible. I think our floor is realistically 8-4 with a ceiling of 10-2. Regular season of course.

7-5 means teams like GA, Miami, NCST, FSU are the real deal and we are about the same as last year. Then we lose one to the rest of the schedule.

I think that’s when Dabo steps back and makes some real decisions. He’ll either hang it up or make whole sale changes. Like going in the portal and dropping dead weight. Players that are clearly not D1 talent need to be pushed out the door.

My prediction is 10-2. I just think we turn things around this season. I think Cade is slightly better. Especially with turnovers. I think the WR position will be much improved and that’s going to be the difference. The D will be as good if not better than last year.

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Ceiling of 10-2?

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Aug 7, 2024, 9:10 AM
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How is the best we can hope for losing to both UGA and FSU? Those teams are both beatable and this Clemson team "SHOULD" be markedly better than last year. Id say for the regular season, the ceiling is 12-0. The floor is 8-4. And frankly if we drop 4, there are major issues in the program that will need to be immediately addressed.

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There are already major issues with the program.***

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Tell 'em shill I

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Aug 7, 2024, 10:16 AM
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LOL

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Re: There are already major issues with the program.***

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Aug 7, 2024, 10:38 AM [ in reply to There are already major issues with the program.*** ]
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Not nearly as many as our basketball program with zero conference championships and zero national titles

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Once Coach Brownell learns how to recognize, recruit and develop high school

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Aug 7, 2024, 10:51 AM
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talent, while supplementing with the portal, we can get into the conversation. Hopefully, he's learned something about it over the last 14 years.

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Re: There are already major issues with the program.***

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Aug 7, 2024, 10:57 AM [ in reply to There are already major issues with the program.*** ]
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Please let us in on the major problems?

Grad rate? Players getting into the league?
Not losing quality players to the portal? Recruiting? Facilities? The coaching staff?

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Re: There are already major issues with the program.***

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Aug 7, 2024, 11:10 AM
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The biggest issue seems to be a decline in overall talent except for a few position groups

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Easy. 8-4

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Aug 7, 2024, 11:56 AM [ in reply to Re: There are already major issues with the program.*** ]
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Squeaking a bowl won against St a mediocre opponent. Refusing to use one of the two sources of athletes.

Getting blown out on our last two playoff games.

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The major issues are staring you in the face.

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Aug 7, 2024, 12:14 PM [ in reply to Re: There are already major issues with the program.*** ]
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1. Poor player development the last 4-5 years. We simply don't develop our highly recruited talent like we used to. This is partly due to inexperienced coaches at key positions, as well as schematic issues.

2. Dabo's refusal to maximize NIL opportunities in recruiting. He supposedly prefers to reserve it to keep players we have rather than use it to get new players. This is impacting recruiting.

3. Lack of transfer portal usage. The portal would allow us to address holes in our roster which occur due to injury, players transferring out, or players not developing as expected. The portal would give us access to players who are experienced and ready to come in and contribute, rather than relying on a guy who has been buried on the depth chart or an incoming freshmen - both of whom are lacking in meaningful game experience.

4. A lack of innovation when it comes to our play, especially on offense. We used to be the fun program that ran a cool offense. Players wanted to be part of it. Now we run a boring offense. Riley doesn't evoke enthusiasm, and Dabo comes across as being stuck in his ways. We have gone from the cool program to the out of touch program as far as perception goes. We have a marketing problem.

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LOL

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Aug 7, 2024, 12:30 PM
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LOL... he is living rent free in your cranium

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Aug 7, 2024, 1:48 PM
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lol

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Tell 'em shill II


Aug 7, 2024, 1:52 PM
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LOL

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Re: The major issues are staring you in the face.


Aug 7, 2024, 7:29 PM [ in reply to The major issues are staring you in the face. ]
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These are not issues. The issues were turnovers, injuries and poor play from the offense, especially in the red zone. What caused those issues is debatable. Your list is simply your opinion of what caused those issues. You are entitled to your opinion, but others are entitled to theirs as well.

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Aug 7, 2024, 11:44 AM [ in reply to There are already major issues with the program.*** ]
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Troll on troll!!!!!!! Only problem is you!!!!

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There have been issues in the BB program, and you remained on Brad's nuts***

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Re: Ceiling of 10-2?

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Aug 7, 2024, 10:59 AM [ in reply to Ceiling of 10-2? ]
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Well, we “should not” have lost to Duke and FSU among others last year. Hope for the best this year and things get turned around.

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Aug 7, 2024, 11:41 AM
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We were not ready to play Clemson football when the season started last year...I am not putting blame for this anywhere but you know who the CEO is!...We should never lose to Duke in that fashion!

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I put a LOT of the blame for that on...

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Aug 7, 2024, 11:50 AM
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whoever has failed to coach up and prepare CK2. He looked the same in the 2024 Spring Game as he has since he got here. I see no difference at all. And you are correct, ultimately the CFO is responsible for hiring someone to help him and all of our QBs get better. We didn't need it so much with Deshaun and Trevor; now the lack of QB development is GLARING.

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Aug 7, 2024, 12:06 PM [ in reply to Ceiling of 10-2? ]
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What % chance do you really think we have to beat GA? I’m sorry but I’m not a player and don’t go into the game with a mind set of ima bet those guys. I’m a fan and I feel it’s going to be like a 30% chance of beating GA. Vegas has them as a 13 favorite. Then we probably lose one to the schedule. That’s only if Cade is remarkably better.

We don’t have 2018 WR, we don’t have TL16, we don’t have ETN, OL is significantly worse than those OL. 12-0 in those years weren’t easy to come by and we were Elite. 12-0 is about as delusional as it gets this year man.

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Ceiling and what is likely are not one in the same


Aug 7, 2024, 12:57 PM
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I didnt say I expected to go 12-0, but thats definitely our ceiling - it realistically COULD happen. I think that question gets answered pretty quickly vs UGA. Unless youre saying we have 0% chance to beat them, which you already said you think we have a 30% chance. After that, no one else on the schedule is as good as UGA will be. Now, coots saying they will go 12-0, thats simply delusional.

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Re: Ceiling and what is likely are not one in the same


Aug 7, 2024, 2:44 PM
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Chances of not losing to one of the following?

GA
FSU
Miami
NCST
Louisville
VT

One is elite and the rest are going to be pretty good this year. It’s actually a tough schedule. Saying our “Ceiling” 12-0 is pretty far fetched. Not impossible but I think we can just agree to disagree on the use of Ceiling.

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Re: Ceiling of 10-2?

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Aug 7, 2024, 12:40 PM [ in reply to Ceiling of 10-2? ]
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Exactly what I was thinking!

The games we lost wasn't so much about teams beating Clemson as it was: "Clemson making a lot of M.E's and costing itself a win"! Still goes down as a defeat no matter how you say it; I know. But, let's not act like each of those games didn't come down to some head scratching turnovers or other M.E's.

Had they just dominated us(Clemson) from a physical standpoint and out talented us - I would have a different point of view!

To me the floor is 10-2(Georgia and FSU).

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Re: Guys, what happens if were not good?

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Aug 7, 2024, 8:34 AM
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If it's because of crappy offense, I would think 1-3 of the position coaches get axed and potentially Riley.

If it's because of crappy defense, I'll be completely shocked and confused.

With this roster, I just don't see 7-5 being a possibility.

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Aug 7, 2024, 8:36 AM
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Nothing like giving Riley chicken crap and hoping he can make chicken salad, and then firing him when he can’t.

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Chicken crap?

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Aug 7, 2024, 11:44 AM
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We have five star talent on offense, including the most important position, QB.

Plus, we play a schedule that allows us the luxury of playing against what should be inferior competition at least 9-10 games a year.

Zero excuse for Riley to not be super successful.
He has the talent, resources, and salary to justify those expectations.

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Tell 'em shill I, the money bothers you

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Aug 7, 2024, 12:31 PM
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LOL

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I want people to earn their salary.

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Aug 7, 2024, 1:32 PM
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Even (gasp!) Dabo.

It's weird that you don't.

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It is an advanced concept that you would not understand

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Aug 7, 2024, 1:47 PM
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LOL

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Re: Chicken crap?


Aug 7, 2024, 2:36 PM [ in reply to Chicken crap? ]
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Who on this offense besides Mafah is going to play on Sundays? Maybe an Antonio Williams, sure seems like the freshman receivers might but it's too early to tell, Blake Miller, maybe? But that's it. Recruiting rankings don't matter at all when they don't develop after getting to campus.

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Is There Not Enough Doom & Gloom Out There Already

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Aug 7, 2024, 8:36 AM
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Why do you create anxiety around things. I don't ever remember this level of pessimism from Clemson Men/Women.

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Re: Guys, what happens if were not good?

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Aug 7, 2024, 8:37 AM
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LOL....coot stalkers reading this thinking...since when is 7-5 not good?

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Aug 7, 2024, 8:45 AM
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If that happens then Neff will need to step in and have a hard conversation with Dabo. That’s when the metaphorical clock starts ticking.

We are all grateful for what Dabo has done for this program, but we are also not paying him as a top 5 coach if he’s gonna go 7-5. That clock starts ticking and if 7-5 becomes the norm we will see Neff go in a different direction HC-wise before the end of the 2020s.

If 7-5 was a bump in the road and he rights the ship, it means Dabo has probably made some eye opening changes—transfer portal/NIL use, firing coaches, schematic changes, etc.

That being said 7-5 would be real bad. I really don’t see it happening, but if 7-5 happened and it was due to us just being a terrible football team and not because of a bunch of freak injuries, Dabo would have no choice but to make some significant changes.

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Aug 7, 2024, 11:37 AM
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What utter insanity. We have 30 wins in the last three seasons. We are a missed FG
and some fumbles from the playoffs last year. You naysayers need to get some reality.
The glass is more full then empty, but so are some of the teams we play. the competition
is better the C game won't win. However, I will take 30 wins the next three years also.

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Re: Guys, what happens if were not good?

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Aug 7, 2024, 3:02 PM [ in reply to Re: Guys, what happens if were not good? ]
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30 wins per season is 10 per year on average. We're talking about a 7-5 season. It seems clear that the program has taken steps back in the last several years. Sure, there's still things to like about this roster, coaching staff, and program as a whole, but a 7-5 season would suddenly be a clear negative trend.

Right the ship this year--win 10 games, find a way into the playoff, etc.--and everyone will shut up and sing Dabo's praises again. But we aren't paying Dabo $11 million/year to trend in the wrong direction and this is a big year in terms of program momentum, recruiting momentum, and the like.

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Re: Guys, what happens if were not good?

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Aug 7, 2024, 8:51 AM
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Try again the next year.

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Aug 7, 2024, 8:56 AM
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Then the only people on TNET that are happy are JK, and the trolls! I have no idea how the season will play out, however, that does not temper my enthusiasm! I love Clemson, I will live and die with this team. Spot the ball, bring on the flea bags and GOTIGERS!

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Bogus claim. No one would be happy with that******


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Re: Bogus claim. No one would be happy with that******

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Aug 7, 2024, 10:59 AM
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You would be surprised! Everyone on here are not fans.

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As long as Clemson is in the ACC the floor (worst case scenario) is 8-4....

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Aug 7, 2024, 9:08 AM
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considering we went 8-4 last year and we really can't be any worse then 7-5 is out of the realm of realistic possibility....imo

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LOL


Aug 7, 2024, 10:15 AM
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Aug 7, 2024, 9:09 AM
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In 2025, we finally take a guy from the portal...DJ Uiagalelei...who is ready to turn the corner and lead us to the promised land. He'll mean it this time!

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Funny! ******


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My approach is to kick back, holler like "HANG" for Clemson,

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Aug 7, 2024, 9:16 AM
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and just let Dabo and the Coaches worry about the details!! The Man has won TWO National Championships, be cool, it's coming!!

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Re: Guys, what happens if were not good?

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Aug 7, 2024, 9:23 AM
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What if we're not good? I don't know if I can take that kind of rejection.

For example. There are only a couple of teams that are always great. It seems like everyone else ebs and flows, with many teams that are always good, but not necessarily great. LSU were national champs in 1958. They were not that good again until 2003 by some people's standards. Yet over that long championship drought they were in fact good. They have the 16th best winning percentage in the history of NCAA football.

So define good? Is 8 and 4 not good?

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Id say there are zero teams that are always great

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Aug 7, 2024, 2:47 PM
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Even Bama wandered in the wilderness for years before Saban came along. How long has it been since the likes of USC and Texas have been legitimately good? UGa went like 40 years between nattys. Oklahoma has been mediocre, Penn St, Michigan, the list goes on.

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Aug 7, 2024, 4:53 PM [ in reply to Re: Guys, what happens if were not good? ]
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"So define good? Is 8 and 4 not good?"

It depends on who you play.

With our schedule, 8 and 4 means we really didn't beat anybody decent.

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Most people here will find a way to rationalize it

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and claim that we are still a top program, soothing themselves with memories of our national championship in 2018 and the fact that “Dabo does things the right way.”

Accusations that other programs cheat and are evil and represent everything that is wrong with college football today will likely increase.

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LOL...oh the hypocrisy and the irony...lol***

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Re: LOL...oh the hypocrisy and the irony...lol***

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Aug 7, 2024, 11:02 AM
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Oh Judge you are “special.” May want to stick with basketball.

Newsflash: we will not win the conference or a national championship every year.

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Of course we won't win the national championship every year.

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Aug 7, 2024, 12:22 PM
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But we should be one of the top 3-5 programs year-in and year-out. That isn't unreasonable at all given our history, investment in the program, and what we pay our coaches.

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Aug 7, 2024, 4:55 PM
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$11 mil per year doesn't always guarantee success

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Tell 'em shill I


Aug 7, 2024, 10:15 AM [ in reply to Most people here will find a way to rationalize it ]
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LOL

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Re: Guys, what happens if were not good?

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Aug 7, 2024, 9:26 AM
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Like coach boom did after every 3-8 season, he said we got to go recruiting.

We are going to have bad seasons where injuries & turnovers take it’s toll. It’s simply amazing the team last year pulled it together after some really bad breaks with a 5 game win streak to close out the season.

I don’t know anyone in college football that could have survived better with the turnovers & injuries we had most teams would have folded.

Our stats were pretty good and we gave away 3 games last season we were in control of. I’m proud of this team and Dabo for pulling it together short handed especially at WR. How we won the bowl game with what we had left at WR, OL & CB?

We gave UK like 4 wide open bombs that they wouldn’t have gotten had our starters would have been in, that 4th quarter was crazy 😜 lol.

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Aug 7, 2024, 9:27 AM
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What if this team goes undefeated and plays for the National Championship or even wins it all? It’s all a matter of perspective! It’s only unthinkable if you don’t think it!

Go Tigers!

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Aug 7, 2024, 9:36 AM
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The obvious issue here is the definition of good. With the exception of 4 or 5 teams across the country, winning 9 -11 games, winning a bowl game and being in the hunt for a conference championship qualifies as being "good". Why does the narrative have to be that were in a slump from 1981 to 2016? Why does the narrative have to be that we are in a slump now? Every team wants to win a championship and we are most certainly in the group that can but defining good would be the thing to do.

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Aug 7, 2024, 10:36 AM
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We go 7-5. It is what it is

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Guys, what happens if Old Dominion beats usc-east ?

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Aug 7, 2024, 10:37 AM
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?

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Aug 7, 2024, 10:43 AM
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The opener will tell us a lot. It's a tough game to judge where your program is but it will be honest. Blowing out William and Mary tells you nothing. Lose by 17+ and it'll be tough to build momentum and convince the team they belong in the playoffs. Keep it within 10 and I think you have a semblance of hope. Beat the defending National Champs and you've got the best early season claim on a playoff spot.

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Aug 7, 2024, 11:04 AM
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Georgia will be a tough out. If things go wrong, hopefully we can rebound and be prepared for App State .. a game that can’t be taken lightly ..

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Do we play Michigan this season?


Aug 7, 2024, 11:21 AM [ in reply to Re: Guys, what happens if were not good? ]
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Michigan is the reigning champion, not UGA.

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What then? Well, JK has promised to...


Aug 7, 2024, 10:57 AM
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castrate himself, as a sacrifice to the football gods. He believes this will serve as safeguard against the possibility of a repeat in the following season, if this one does indeed, "go bad". Every cloud has a silver lining—

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I'll cross that bridge if we get to it. Bad idea to speculate THAT hard.***


Aug 7, 2024, 11:00 AM
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Aug 7, 2024, 11:05 AM
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I will tell you what I will do. I will continue to pull for the Tigers like I always do. Out of my control, and Dabo has not called me asking for my advice, so it is what it is.

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MEG


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Aug 7, 2024, 11:22 AM
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I'm gonna say it now. Will. Not. Happen! There is NO way this squad loses 4 games this year again. If so then the wheels came off big time. I'm talking Cade being out hurt for multiple games, a massive injury bug etc. Yeah, last year we had a few wins that easily could have been losses. But also every one of those losses ABSOLUTELY should have been a win. Duke got handed 36 turnovers and an inability to kick a football by our guy. FSU Don't even get me started. Miami was a massive brain fart and NC St our lads crapped the bed. The defense mostly kept the Tigers in every game, so with any improvement of THE O line (it's GOT to be better) and WRs that can catch, we are a much better team. Sorry for the rant, but I would be suprised at 3 losses, much less 4-5. Go Tigers!

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Aug 7, 2024, 11:29 AM
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We lose.

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Aug 7, 2024, 11:47 AM
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The sun will continue to rise every morning and I will continue to support the University I attended and love - Clemson University.

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Aug 7, 2024, 11:49 AM
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I don't think it is possible to lose 5 games on our schedule

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Aug 7, 2024, 11:56 AM
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Not even going there in my mind. Tigers are 12-0 regular season. We ride at dawn.

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Aug 7, 2024, 12:04 PM
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the sun will rise in the east, set in the west, and we'll still be the best University in the state of SC

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All the same shyte we used to do when our coach was named "Tommy"


Aug 7, 2024, 12:06 PM
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duh

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Aug 7, 2024, 1:43 PM
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6 hr old thread and it has 72 replies. That’s impressive.

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Aug 7, 2024, 3:11 PM
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coots will declare victory for only losing by 5 touchdowns

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