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South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:20 AM
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South Carolina is funding *2* legitimate QBs this coming year in Sellers and Noland (plus Cutter Woods backing them up), while we're celebrating a single DE transfer and praying that our QB doesn't leave early for the NFL because we'll have nothing promising remaining.
I sure hope this whole 110 Society / Clemson Ventures / Everett Sports Marketing thing starts playing out soon.
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:21 AM
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I don't think Woods is staying. Or so I'm hearing.
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:22 AM
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Yea... He's got no chance to play. But I don't think he's taking their NIL money either.
Supposedly Clemson told him he's not good enough to play at Clemson. No idea if that's true.
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:23 AM
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We had no room for him at the time...that may change. His family are 100% Clemson.
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Paw Warrior [4854]
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Would love if he changed his mind and picked Clemson!***
Dec 25, 2024, 9:34 AM
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Dec 24, 2024, 12:19 PM
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You're the ignorant clown. They're not talking about Peter Woods. They're talking about Cutter Woods.
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Clemson Conqueror [12091]
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
Dec 24, 2024, 10:27 PM
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Okay Cutter.
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:28 AM
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Cade will be back. Put the chance of his return at 100%
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:32 AM
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Try to look at it this way. We have what is probably the best returning QB in the country for 2025 as our starter. We have what looks to be a talented backup in Viz who just needs experience but has everything it takes to be a good one, both physically and mentally. We just signed a really good prospect for the future who on film, at least, looks like a real star in the making. Do we need to spend money on another backup? I don't think so. Seems to me Dabo hit the jackpot on his first two REAL portal guys as they will fill a need, which is exactly what the portal was designed to do.
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:51 AM
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Vizzina doesn't look the part he maybe but as of now I would go after Woods and let the best player take the job in 26.
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Orange Blooded [2153]
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Re: I wouldnt call our portal pickups
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Dec 24, 2024, 6:51 PM
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How many p4 offers did ole Hunter have. He wasn’t no 5 star out of college. Dude grinded and got better and look at the man holding the grapes now!! Rich!!
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Re: I wouldnt call our portal pickups
Dec 24, 2024, 10:30 PM
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But we only have this guy for 1 year. 2 of his 3 years experience is community college. I like his size and hope he pans out but he is far from a sure thing.
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Coots are having to replace close to 40 players
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:34 AM
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they have no option but to load up in the portal. Only guys costing them money to retain are Sellers and the DE. Meanwhile we have to retain Cade, Wesco, Moore, Williams, Parker, Woods, Brown, Woodaz, Miller, Terrell, Barnes, likely Capehart, and others. Night and day allocation of NIL funds between the 2 programs
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Re: Coots are having to replace close to 40 players
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:41 AM
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Which allocation is more successful?
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Would you rather retain your quality players
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:44 AM
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or try to replace them in the portal? Their entire front 7 of their very good defense is gone. Roster churn, or roster stability? FSU tried the replacement route last year. That's an extreme outlier, but they were regarded as winning the portal last year
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Re: Would you rather retain your quality players
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:49 AM
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Sellers is likely gone after next year. Noland has 4 years of eligibility remaining. This isn't about next year... It's about the future of your program.
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Ring of Honor [21416]
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Sellers may improve his passing and become a first round pick
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Dec 24, 2024, 10:18 AM
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but that's not his strength right now. Unless his passing improves a lot, he's going to be there 2 more years. He's a freak athlete. He's not a polished QB right now. If he develops, good for him. I actually like the kid.
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Sellers has a higher completion percentage and
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Dec 24, 2024, 11:29 AM
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yards per attempt than Cade. They are a run first team so he doesn’t have the total yards or TDs that Cade has. But it’s not like Sellers is some running back playing QB, plus he’s a freshman.
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Ring of Honor [21416]
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Definitely run first
Dec 24, 2024, 12:14 PM
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but NFL wants guys who light it up throwing the ball. He's not been asked to do that. He threw it far less than the QB's who are going inn the first round
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Associate AD [1070]
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Yes he threw less. But hes a solid passer,
Dec 24, 2024, 12:17 PM
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especially for a freshman.
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Solid doesn't get you into the first round
Dec 24, 2024, 12:25 PM
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which is how you get drafted. Can he take the leap he needs to passing, reading defenses, not scrambling first. He has a chance to, but will it happen in one year. I really like the kid, but he's still in a very developmental stage in his career
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Re: Sellers has a higher completion percentage and
Dec 24, 2024, 7:01 PM
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Sellers also has more INTs with way fewer passes than Cade but let’s ignore that, he’s not currently in the same passing league as Cade and arguing that is Cootish. He’s a great athlete but striper is spot on with his assessment. Let’s see how Sellers does his sophomore year when teams have a season of tape on him.
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Associate AD [1070]
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Yes he does, he makes some poor decisions sometimes.
Dec 24, 2024, 10:18 PM
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I’m not arguing that he’s a better passing QB than Cade. But folks on here are acting like he can’t throw the ball, when he’s actually a solid passer, he just doesn’t do it that much.
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Valley Protector [1431]
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1 % pt on nearly half as many attempts, significantly lower qbr than Cade...
Dec 24, 2024, 11:20 PM
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which is a more in depth QB metric but very good #s from a fr QB, very similar to Cade's sophomore season. He wont be surprising anyone as a sophomore.
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Valley Protector [1431]
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1 % pt on nearly half as many attempts, significantly lower qbr than Cade...
Dec 24, 2024, 11:27 PM
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which is a more in depth QB metric but very good #s from a fr QB, very similar to Cade's sophomore season. He wont be surprising anyone as a sophomore.
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Re: Sellers has a higher completion percentage and
Dec 25, 2024, 9:41 AM
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And lower in every stat that actually matters. I believe the consensus was that Cade needsto find a new job after posting identical numbers last year.
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Re: Coots are having to replace close to 40 players
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Dec 24, 2024, 10:01 AM
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Some, but not most. I'd say most would look at the head to head.
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Re: Coots are having to replace close to 40 players
Dec 24, 2024, 10:40 PM
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You mean like the last 8 out of 10?
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Re: Coots are having to replace close to 40 players
Dec 24, 2024, 10:50 PM
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When did NIL begin?
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Re: Coots are having to replace close to 40 players
Dec 24, 2024, 10:59 PM
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It began in ‘21 so we are 2-2 since…
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Dynasty Maker [3415]
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:36 AM
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You’re off the mark on this one.
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:38 AM
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Can you wait until the next group of portal guys announce after Spring practice to repost what every other complainer has put on here ? We don't know how many QBs will be available by then or if we even need one. Maybe spend a little on D-line first?
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:39 AM
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I think we're trying to spend on D line. That's exactly my point.
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:42 AM
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Its genuinely a waste of money. While they could have got some replacements for their secondary they spent money on a kid who will sit the bench for two years. But I wouldn’t expect them to understand that concept with there degrees from the university of second choice.
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:43 AM
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One year*
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:49 AM
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How do you know if Noland is any good or not? He didn’t play at Ohio State. And the writing on the wall saids he wasnt bearing out who they had. Although I know the Julian kid was rated ahead of him coming out of high school. He may be a good quarterback. May not be. A lot of money to give a kid who may not play for you.
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Dec 24, 2024, 9:52 AM
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How do you know it's "a lot of money"?
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
Dec 24, 2024, 11:08 AM
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The coots next year will be just like us this year. The defense will be porous because they lose most of theirs.
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If only funding *2* legitimate QBs
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Dec 24, 2024, 11:35 AM
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were the point.
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Re: If only funding *2* legitimate QBs
Dec 24, 2024, 12:18 PM
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It seems people don't have the mental capacity to get by that.
Thanks for restoring hope in my opinion of the Clemson fanbase.
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Dec 24, 2024, 11:38 AM
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I hope Clemson is very different in how they do things vs SC. SC is irrelevant and has always been that way. Sure they will win some but in the end their trophy case will remain bare.
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
Dec 24, 2024, 11:45 AM
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It’s true!
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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South Carolina doesn’t pay their coaches nearly as much as we do, let’s free up 2 million by getting rid of DC and let’s restructure or have dabo donate half that salary to help instead of staying behind because we can’t afford 3 coaches getting paid 16 million dollars and expect players whose making the coaches that salary to get the leftovers of what isn’t being funded back into the coaches pockets
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Who is “we”?
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
Dec 24, 2024, 6:48 PM
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The coot.
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
Dec 24, 2024, 7:18 PM
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He can’t fool us.
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
Dec 24, 2024, 12:31 PM
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Maybe our coaches know who’s staying.
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One huge difference is their fans
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Dec 24, 2024, 7:50 PM
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Really bought into their garnet trust NIL collective early. Dear Old Clemson, Tiger Impact, and now the consolidated 110 Society have all struggled when it comes to getting Clemson fans to buy in.
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
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Dec 24, 2024, 10:24 PM
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Y’all sleeping on Chris Denson
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Never heard of'im...
Dec 24, 2024, 11:54 PM
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till his offer sheet improves significantly or he's bumped to solid 4 star territory-
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Re: Never heard of'im...
Dec 25, 2024, 7:49 AM
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2026 and beyond does not look promising for Clemson at the moment. Poor recruiting, lack of depth, and very little portal usage will start to show. Better make some changes or South Carolina will be winning against Clemson more often.
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
Dec 25, 2024, 8:21 AM
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All this proves is Lanorris doesn’t give a rats behind about the gamecoots. He cares about $$$ only
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Re: South Carolina just proved how far behind Clemson is with NIL
Dec 25, 2024, 8:33 AM
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Yawn 👈literally your post
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